OES vs. St. Bernard
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| It's true, twice a year, they shed ALL their hair, and they are always drooling (At least the one I used to have) Keep in mind that the ST Bernard is a H U G E breed, even compared to an OES... But then, their hearts are as bis as well. They are lovable characters and you can't help fall in love with thier lovable faces.
We brush our two dogs once a week to keep their coats in good condition, I you want to keep them in excellent, top condition 100% of the time, them I guess more grooming is required, but after having 2 at home, I cannot imagine my life without Lennon and Sofa... Our house has never been with so much life! Good luck with your choice, whatever breed you choose, both are adorable and great! |
| Caullet,
I can help you on this one! St. Bernards are wonderful - but the DROOL and shedding is something that you have to be well prepared for! Especially the DROOL - there is nothing like it!  I love them - but I am not a neat freak. If you have a neat freak in the house - the St Bernard is not the breed for your family. You may want to "visit" a Saint Bernard to see what it is like in real life. If you decide on a Saint - you need to buy stock in "woober clothes" (drool towels). You will notice that all owners of Saints will have one of these hanging out of their pockets or nearby in their homes.
Because of my Aunt's St. Bernards - we have a saying in our family - "Let it dry and flake it off". Someone was always getting hit with drool (sometimes across the face! LOL) that we would just say "Oh, Let it dry and flake it off". Drool everywhere - clothes, ceilings, walls, faces, windows, etc.
The other thing with Saints is - they have alot of "issues" from poor breeding (as do OES) - and they can sometimes be very territorial and protective. So - whatever your choice may be - be sure to get one from a reputable, responsible breeder and meet the sire/dam (temperment is so important). JMO. Kristen |
| My husband talked to a breeder last night. He was questioning about the drooling and she said they don't drool much except when they get hot. I'm thinking "HELLO we ARE in Louisiana". I hate to be the big meanie about this and say no. I know he really wants this breed. I know how happy I was when I got Abby. My first memory of ever wanting a dog was an OES. Talk about when dreams come true, it was so wonderful when I held her for the first time. I keep wondering how I would feel if he would have told me no. We went to a dog show this past weekend and he was sooooo disappointed that the St. Bernard did not show up. It was a good chance for him to see several different breeds. He fell in love with the English Mastiff. I really liked the Great Danes. There was only one OES there and we visited with her for about 45 minutes.
Anyhow, thanks for the input. I'm going to print out all the responses and let him read the pros and cons. We may drive up to Shreveport this weekend just to visit like you suggested. |
| BritPresSyd is totally right, go and visit a Saint before you take the plunge. I lived in a very extreme climate when I had my Saint (The mexican mountain range, them moved to the desert) and our dog drooled all year, it's not true that they drool only when they are hot. I heard that reducing their salt intake can work that out.
Their size can make them very clumsy inside a house, and your items must be secure if you don't want them knocking things to and fro. Also, check that the dog's temperament you are getting is compatible with your dog. They have the tendency to be laid back and not as active and hyper as an OES, and thay may become an issue. Constant brushing is needed to keep them from shedding a lot (They will still shed twice a year if your weather is extreme). I love the breed, I love the one I had a skind, he let me rode him and we even tied a wagon to him so he could pull us, we had a lot of fun and he was a very peaceful doggie.... Maybe one day I'll have another. Hope you and your husband can work something out! |
Caullet wrote: My husband talked to a breeder last night. He was questioning about the drooling and she said they don't drool much except when they get hot. I'm thinking "HELLO we ARE in Louisiana".
I have to disagree COMPLETELY with this breeder! They drool when they are excited, scared, eating, drinking, when you're eating or drinking, etc, etc, etc. I would question her honesty in that response. A breeder of Saint Bernards should be telling you about the drool - you shouldn't even have to ask. I would think she/he would want to make sure you knew what you were getting into. In my opinion, that would be like an OES breeder telling you they didn't require alot of grooming. Sorry to sound so judgemental! Maybe her definition of "much" is different than mine. Kristen |
| Caullet,
Have you seen this information from the St Bernard Club of America website... http://www.saintbernardclub.org/new2saints.htm If you look - there is a HINT & Tip section which includes "How to get Slobber off your ceiling"
It may be helpful to review before considering - and/or when selecting a breeder. Kristen |
| Kristen,
I didn't find your post judgmental at all. I totally agree with you on the honesty part. Sunday at the dog show people were talking about the OES and someone made the comment that they only spend about 20 minutes a couple of days a week on their OES in full coat. They were making it sound like the grooming was a breeze. I on the other hand was not trying to discourage them, but I was trying to make my point that it takes diligence and commitment. At first I was going to try to talk my husband out of going for a visit, but now I'm going to insist on it. Maybe he'll see the "Actual Size" and change his mind. I think I can deal with the shedding better than the drooling. I just want to make an educated decision. So many dogs end up in rescue because they were purchased on impulse. After all, it took me years to get Abby. |
| There is no other choice for the committed OES person get another OES. By the way do I mean committed to the asylumn? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha |
Just looking at the February puppy on the OES calendar should be enough to sway my husband to my way of thinking!!!  Who can refuse that face?????? |
| We went through this a few years ago. We have always had OES and all of a sudden my husband got on a St. Bernard kick. I agree with everyone else; talking/reasoning will not work, go directly to a St. Bernard (as many as you can find in one place) and start comparing. You will have another OES in no time!
P.S. St. Bernards are very cool dogs but they are not for everyone. It's the same thing we say around here, about sheepdogs, they really have to suit your lifestyle. |
| All I can add here is that my neighbor across the street has a young St Bernard that sometimes plays with Frank. And it's NOT EASY trying to get muddy slobber drool off a long haired dog. We're not talking clear water here - we're talking a clear snotty gel!! |
| get both! |
Quote: We went to a dog show this past weekend and he was sooooo disappointed that the St. Bernard did not show up. It was a good chance for him to see several different breeds. He fell in love with the English Mastiff. I really liked the Great Danes. There was only one OES there and we visited with her for about 45 minutes
All, This quote triggered a few thoughts about dog shows and interaction between the public and exhibitors. These comments are general thoughts and not meant to single out any one person. They reflect my personal experiences and preferences having been, and continuing to be, on both sides of the situation. Visiting dog shows is very clearly the best chance to get to see a wide variety of dogs and learn more about the various breeds' characteristics and behaviours at one time. Exhibitors/breeders are almost always willing to host visits and answer questions about their breed and discuss their own line's particular merits or differences from others. That being said though, shows are extremely busy and often stressful, especially for professional handlers and their staff(s) whose very income is dependent upon how well they do in the ring. As such it is incumbent upon each of us to be discreet in when and how long we visit while exhibitors are preparing their dogs for the ring, and it is especially relevant to OES as it takes so much time and effort to get them ready. The rule of thumb I use when visiting other exhibitors (and the one I would like to see when others visit me while preparing our dogs for the ring) is to end the visit no less than 1 hour before the scheduled ring time. This gives plenty of time to visit during basic pre-ring grooming and preparation and allows the exhibitor the final hour to complete final primping, backcombing and shaping with minimal stress or the dog becoming distracted. The exhibitors must also often change into their ring clothing as grooming clothes are often too hairy to allow for a professional presentation! At no point should you visit an exhibitor when the dog is standing on the table and is in the grooming arm noose. (You are certainly welcome to watch from a nearby vantage point but questions and attempts to caress the dog during this final preparation are quite simply impolite and may be understandably rebuked. Yes I have experienced this literally minutes before the ring when Virgil was fully primped and "focused" for "show". ) If you are particularly interested in a specific breeder you meet at a show make a point of watching their ring performance and offering them congratulations after they are finished in the ring and return to see them in their grooming area. Also make an appointment to meet with them at their kennel. This will confirm your genuine interest and will go a long way in their evaluation of your suitability for one of their pups if you choose to pursue one of their dogs. By all means enjoy visiting many dogs and exhibitors at dog show but please be cognizant that exhibitors have schedules and a lot of work to complete. Cheers Carl |
| To the person who was contemplating a St Bernard, I will give you honest advice! I have had many St Bernards in my lifetime, and there are some ignorant people out there who, like the other individual, who doesn't know what they're talking about. St Bernards have average shedding habits. If you get a "dry mouth" St Bernard, which is the only type of St that is around usually anymore and the only kind I've ever own, they only drool a little bit after drinking water....hmmm...most dogs do! Go figure! My Saints, and all others that are brought up right, are the BEST dog in the world to be around children if you have any. You will never find a more sympathetic, caring, loving dog and companion to be around kids. If your child falls and cries, who's the first in their face to make sure they're ok, licking the kids' face and protecting them? That's right! The trusted Saint! You will NEVER find a more loving, loyal, and dependable dog. I've had OES and my Saints have always been the best dogs I've ever had! My Saints were totally housebroken within 3-4 weeks after we started with them (without the crate), and they're just great big couch potatoes! They love to be around their people, and will love and be loyal to you forever! Thanks. Amy |
| Mastiffs are CRAZY droolers too-- the sticky stringy kind. They're awesome dogs but I would not want that goo getting on my poor sheepie! Clyde likes to bite Lucy when they play (she's not as drooly as he is when she plays with him) and she has a constant ring of crusty fur on her neck. I can only image what this would be like with a serious drooler! |
| Sorry, I have to cast a vote in the OES camp. I had a St Bernard many many years ago. He was a nice dog, well mannered and trained. But he never had a personality anywhere near the personality of my Tasker. He didn't just drool, he slobbered all the time all over everything. I did get him till he was 5 or 6 and know knothing about his breeding but he had many health problems and to be honest he got a bit crankey as he got older. He stayed with me for about 4 years (I was long term dog sitting) and eventually went back to live with his real owner. The shedding was amazing, there was always hair over everything. |
Hi, I also cast my vote for another oes. I had a St. Bernard years ago, he came from a wonderful breeder. He was aver loving dog, he also shed like mad, as for the drooling, he was always drooling  I loved him very much  As he got older he got cranky. He did not nearly have the personality's my oes have had. Would I do it again? NOT !!! |
| I'd sure like to know how this has come out. Did they get the St or the OES? I've had Saints, Newfies and Pyrs all at the same time with OES. Yes, we too love big dogs. Each breed is quite different! Depends on what you want from your dog and your life style. If someone brought me one of each and said I could only have one.............it would be a horrible decision to make.........I honestly can't say which I'd select.
I've lived with drool for so long, now that my last major drooler just died, I'm at a loss. Imagine washing wall and cabinets and they will remain clean........unless the remaining dogs take up the challenge. sheepieboss |
| Hi all!
We ended up getting a Border Collie/Australian Shepard mix. Her name is Josie. She's 4 months old and very smart. My husband is trying to make a competition on who is smarter Josie or Abby. We all know that Abby will win...paws down! I'll keep yall posted on how the competition goes! |
| oh wow! Quite a difference. A BC/AS.....yipes, dog would be smarter than me! And a whole lot different than a Saint, Newf or Pyr, LOL! |
| I am a dog lover, especially of big dogs, but I cannot stand my fiance's St. Bernard. Before we were engaged I loved Charlie, but after moving in and actually living with him I had no idea the commitment to cleaning a St. Bernard brings. He is 210 pounds and slobbers on everything. I am not a clean freak, but when I vaccuum and clean the walls and in no less than 4 hours it looks like I sat around all day it is very defeating. He is what other posters have said, sweet, affectionate and wonderful when you dont have to live with him. Our carpets are matted with fur, he drools, the walls have slobber and sheds in what seems to be clumps. He is a dry mouth, but seriously he ruins your clothes. I have had to change before work many a mornings when he comes by to say hello and leaves a long booger looking slime on my pants or shirt. He is 12 years old and acts like a puppy, with my luck he will be the oldest St. Bernard to ever live. We have put off new carpeting and painting until he is no longer with us, because we know he will unintentially ruin it and when you are getting married in the summer and want these things to be done before then, you can see that it is dissapointing. I feel that when you have a dog that is THIS big and it affects the way you live you have to ask yourself if it is worth it. There are plenty of other large breeds that are just as sweet that dont require so much work. I feel quilty for hating him, because he is a good dog, but I would never reccomend this breed to someone if they plan on having an indoor dog. |
BritPresSyd wrote: Caullet wrote: My husband talked to a breeder last night. He was questioning about the drooling and she said they don't drool much except when they get hot. I'm thinking "HELLO we ARE in Louisiana". I have to disagree COMPLETELY with this breeder! They drool when they are excited, scared, eating, drinking, when you're eating or drinking, etc, etc, etc. I would question her honesty in that response. A breeder of Saint Bernards should be telling you about the drool - you shouldn't even have to ask. I would think she/he would want to make sure you knew what you were getting into. In my opinion, that would be like an OES breeder telling you they didn't require alot of grooming. Sorry to sound so judgemental! Maybe her definition of "much" is different than mine. Kristen I don't know about sts but that pretty much describes mr newfie puppy. whenever they are excited they drool - whether it is about people or food. I always said no newfs because of the drool until I noticed drool on the walls from Morgan my male oes - oh well 
I do knwo soe newfs drool more than others (they divide them into dry mouths and wet - couldbe the same with saints.? |
| Yes, the more open gutter the more drool falls out.
Dog's excitement, temperature, recent eating/drinking also play part in drool amount. These are not dogs for the finicky housekeeper. Handlers in the show ring carry hand towels or larger for a reason! You have to be able to laugh when you've just been plastered by a big slimey rope. Friend's husband kept a very long raincoat to wear on the way past the dog and to the door to keep his suit drool free. |
| I know this post is old, but i wanted to reply.... My family and I bought an OES about 4 years ago. Archie is wonderful! He looked like a little panda bear as a pup! We have a nine month room at the back of the house which we put a wall in to divide it into two separate rooms-- a man cave and a 5X12 doggy room which has a huge door that leads to the outside. We then enclosed half of the backyard with a fence that was enclosed to the doggy room-- so Archie could go in and out of his room as he wished.... Anyway, my wife always wanted a St. bernard so we got one about 3 years ago-- Benson. Archie and Benson became GREAT friends from day one! Within about 8 months, benson was bigger than the OES. They are totally different personalities: The OES is very gentle (will even eat off a fork like a human), barks at everything he sees, and always wants to play excitedly! The St. Bernard is very clumsy and not gentle-- not mean by any means, but wants to be so close to you he might push you over on accident! The St. RARELY barks, and his version of play is that he lays on his back while you pet his tummy! The OES is much harder to groom as his fur gets matted very quickly! The St. sheds alot more outwardly, but his fur always looks clean and soft. The OES does not drool what-so-ever, while the St. drools after drinking or when excited. You really do get used to the drool and he seems to drool less the older he gets. He does not drool anywhere near the amount of a mastiff (which we had years ago). All in all, I would say the maintenance on the St. is a tad easier than on an OES. The St. wants ten minute walks and then to lay by you for an hour... the OES is always wanting to exercise. The OES is much harder to groom. The drool is worse on the St., but it is not horrible like on movies! The OES requires ALOT more attention and, in fact, demands the attention by barking. Both dogs are GREAT and I love both breeds. Oh... we did put an A/C unit in their backroom as you have to be especially careful with Saints that they don't overheat! They look the same size when the OES has a full coat, but the OES weighs about 100 and our Saint weighs a little over 200!!! He is just much thicker and ALLLLLL muscle! Neither dog would hurt a flea-- especially kids! We even found a stray cat sleeping with the dogs in their room! |
| Our OES Maudie was 4 months old when we got her an 8 week old "little brother," Basil the St. Bernard. BBF!!! Initially Maudie would chase poor Basil to where he'd have to seek shelter wherever, like under a wheelbarrow! (that didn't last long) Even fool grown he would run, flop on his back while Maudie "tore him up" by grapping his scruff and shaking with all her might. Basil's tough would roll out and his eyes close in contentment. Yes, the St.B was far easier to groom and if you go with a smooth coat, not a rough coat, it's even easier...except for the constant shedding like a labrador. That was 40 years ago....yipes! If an StB showed up at the front gate, you know we'd let him come in. |
After a sheepie, I'd love to get a Newfoundland dog, close relatives of the StB. But if I'd get a second dog, it would be a sheepie. So I think I would only get a Newfoundland if I had three dogs I can only imagine the loving you'd get from two sheepdogs and a Newfoundlander.  |
| I too would have a newfoundland and my husband always wanted a St. B but now too old have all we can handle with the basset and Butchy. Maybe in my next life I can have some of all. |
Baba wrote: After a sheepie, I'd love to get a Newfoundland dog, close relatives of the StB. But if I'd get a second dog, it would be a sheepie. So I think I would only get a Newfoundland if I had three dogs I can only imagine the loving you'd get from two sheepdogs and a Newfoundlander. You married a Newfoundlander, the non-drooling two-legged kind. That should have been enough to scare you off of any other Newf! I do find it curious that you mention not just a second dog, but a third!  |
Mady wrote: Baba wrote: After a sheepie, I'd love to get a Newfoundland dog, close relatives of the StB. But if I'd get a second dog, it would be a sheepie. So I think I would only get a Newfoundland if I had three dogs I can only imagine the loving you'd get from two sheepdogs and a Newfoundlander. You married a Newfoundlander, the non-drooling two-legged kind. That should have been enough to scare you off of any other Newf! I do find it curious that you mention not just a second dog, but a third! You two crack me up! |
| funny Yes, after the St.B we had Abbott the Newfoundland Retriever......wonderful dog. Then the Great Pyrs......Abbott and Shane Pyr were BFFs, after dinner they'd stretch out on the lawn, facing each other and face chew. They were constantly wet faced! So, don't think I'm solely StB person, if a Newf or another Pyr came by along with the StB, they'd all be welcome. This is big dog territory! Sheepies of course are admitted without question. |
Mady wrote: Baba wrote: After a sheepie, I'd love to get a Newfoundland dog, close relatives of the StB. But if I'd get a second dog, it would be a sheepie. So I think I would only get a Newfoundland if I had three dogs I can only imagine the loving you'd get from two sheepdogs and a Newfoundlander. You married a Newfoundlander, the non-drooling two-legged kind. That should have been enough to scare you off of any other Newf! I do find it curious that you mention not just a second dog, but a third! Okay, this is by no means the first time you two have "exchanged" posts here on the forum. So I just have to ask - Do you two ever actually talk to each other or is this how you keep you relationship so "harmonious"?  Carl |
Baba wrote: After a sheepie, I'd love to get a Newfoundland dog, close relatives of the StB. But if I'd get a second dog, it would be a sheepie. So I think I would only get a Newfoundland if I had three dogs I can only imagine the loving you'd get from two sheepdogs and a Newfoundlander. Michele and I are quite fond of Newfoundlands as well, especially the Landseer variety. In fact we went to visit a couple of Newfoundland kennels not long after we got married and were thinking of what second breeds we might like to go with the Bobtails. We were also very impressed by an exceptionally nice line of Newfoundlands we frequently saw when we were showing Vigil Tiberius now too many years ago. But the drool situation has always been an issue to us. Although in our last house, a rented townhouse (dump) there was a family nearby who even by Newfie standards had a rather large boy who often said hello as we walked our boys. They then "upped the ante" by getting a puppy who was absolutley 100% cuddleable. We almost broke down at that point! However there are other breeds that I would probably choose before a Newf - I don't think I could deal with their relatively short life expectancy and the large number of health issues their breed as a whole faces. I get just too attached to my kids and hate to see them in any form of discomfort or for them to leave early - and for them to ever leave is too early. Being the sort of oddball that I am - I never do things the way most people do them and generally fall in love with the more unusual or difficult stuff, if we ever do bring another breed into the pack I will probably insist on it being a Komondor. We has originally wanted Risa Kennels to breed Bobtails and Komondorok but with all that has passed the last 3 years and no sign of it being solved in the foreseeable future that looks fairly unlikely now. But perhaps there may still come a day when we can realize a Komondor kid just for companionship. Thanks and Cheers Carl |
Carl Lindon wrote: Mady wrote: Baba wrote: After a sheepie, I'd love to get a Newfoundland dog, close relatives of the StB. But if I'd get a second dog, it would be a sheepie. So I think I would only get a Newfoundland if I had three dogs I can only imagine the loving you'd get from two sheepdogs and a Newfoundlander. You married a Newfoundlander, the non-drooling two-legged kind. That should have been enough to scare you off of any other Newf! I do find it curious that you mention not just a second dog, but a third! Okay, this is by no means the first time you two have "exchanged" posts here on the forum. So I just have to ask - Do you two ever actually talk to each other or is this how you keep you relationship so "harmonious"? Carl We talk! Well, I talk, he just nods randomly, and tosses in the odd grunt. I do find it fun to learn things about his thought process via this forum. Sometimes he is typing things on the forum as I am sitting right next to him and only once I read the post do I find out what is brewing in that murky mind of his! I should post the grocery list on here for him-then he might come back from the store with something other than chocolate milk and bbq chips.  |
Mady wrote: Carl Lindon wrote: Mady wrote: You married a Newfoundlander, the non-drooling two-legged kind. That should have been enough to scare you off of any other Newf! I do find it curious that you mention not just a second dog, but a third! Okay, this is by no means the first time you two have "exchanged" posts here on the forum. So I just have to ask - Do you two ever actually talk to each other or is this how you keep you relationship so "harmonious"? Carl We talk! Well, I talk, he just nods randomly, and tosses in the odd grunt. I do find it fun to learn things about his thought process via this forum. Sometimes he is typing things on the forum as I am sitting right next to him and only once I read the post do I find out what is brewing in that murky mind of his! I should post the grocery list on here for him-then he might come back from the store with something other than chocolate milk and bbq chips. Add in coffee and that could be Todd's shopping as well!  ...and that's 27 year's worth!! (He enjoyed the random nods and odd grunt part too ) |
| hehe, someone other than i could or should open, "marriages strengthened or saved by this forum"  |
Look what I found in my mother's photo album. This is 40 years old, maybe more. That's Maudie sheepdog and Basil St. B. We were living at a ranger station in Colorado. Dogs spent a lot of time on the trail.......Maudie like to help me fish  hence the shorter body coat. No clippers then, all scissor cut. Basil looks dirty and unbrushed, but then he did have a thing for free range cattle, if he wasn't chasing them he was rolling in the poo. Someplace I have a pix of the pups on the trail......when Basil was about 8 weeks old and falling in puddles, not wading thru.  |
SheepieBoss wrote: Look what I found in my mother's photo album. This is 40 years old, maybe more. That's Maudie sheepdog and Basil St. B. We were living at a ranger station in Colorado. Dogs spent a lot of time on the trail.......Maudie like to help me fish hence the shorter body coat. No clippers then, all scissor cut. Basil looks dirty and unbrushed, but then he did have a thing for free range cattle, if he wasn't chasing them he was rolling in the poo. Someplace I have a pix of the pups on the trail......when Basil was about 8 weeks old and falling in puddles, not wading thru. OMG - LOVE that picture  Todd said "those dogs sure look happy" |
| Great picture. I thought the dogs coats looked great and they sure look happy. |
| I rather like I look like my dogs. |
| What beautiful dogs you had. I love the pic. |
BritPresSyd wrote: If you look - there is a HINT & Tip section which includes "How to get Slobber off your ceiling" That made me laugh, I have a friend with a Newfie who gives Archie a bath every time they meet  I'd rather have a damp beard than a damp ceiling  |
| We had a Saint for 9 years. Bandit was the most wonderful dog I have ever had. Saints are Gentle Giants. However, because of their size and rate of growth you must start training young. They are giant lap dogs. They are messy and require a lot of grooming. When they drink they drool. When they eat they drool. When they play they drool. When they are hot they drool. Then they will shake their head and the drool flies and sticks on whatever and whoever is close. Despite this if I fell in love with this breed. This is a dog for someone with time and patience. Now that I am older I would not do it again. My kids were young and there were benefits. We lived up north and Bandit pulled a sled. He was trained by an 11 year old to show at the fair. Although wonderful and easy to train I would not recommend this breed to just anyone. |
| Yep, sense of humor is mandatory. My 71 year old brother and wife just rescued another Newfie. Hope their cleaning lady has a sense of humor.......... |
christmaseve70 wrote: To the person who was contemplating a St Bernard, I will give you honest advice! . If you get a "dry mouth" St Bernard, which is the only type of St that is around usually anymore and the only kind I've ever own, they only drool a little bit after drinking water....hmmm...most dogs do! Go figure! Amy ROLMAO!!! My sister has a short haired "dry mouth" saint. I do not care what anyone says about them drooling "a little bit". she still has to carry around a drool towel (not a tiny one a big/huge one) If she doesnt catch him right after he drinks anything he remotly walks by is COVERED in drool. I mean covered. It looks like a gross huge snail/slug walked through your house. Also read up on what wobblers is. Its awful. Her saint has it. He will never fully recover (even though she is convinced he grew out of it. Shes being stupid about it and ignoring the fact that he still has it.) He will never be sturdy on his back feet and will always have that chance of being permently paralyzed. I prefer OES over Saints. The drool is one thing that gets me. I would rather have a wet beard then a snail trail all over my house. With the beard you can always shave it off too. Their short life spans are a major thing with me too. I probably would never own one but I like them from a far.... |
| that drool can be hard to remove from clothing...but it is given so generously. |
SheepieBoss wrote: that drool can be hard to remove from clothing...but it is given so generously. Not just clothes but furniture, carpet, your hair, other dogs hairs, your car, anything that he can reach with his mouth. When my sister brings her saint over, shes prepared to clean my house while they visit. Yes it is given so generously. They give it away like it its going out of style.... |
| Bassets don't do badly in the drool area either. Nothing like having one shake his head and watching it fly. I've cleaned it off some unlikely places too. My husband always wanted a St. but we weren't in the postion to get one and now we're too old. |
Geeze...........I guess I fortunate. The 2 I had years ago, rarely drooled. My sisters 2 she has now, the same. St. Bernards are great but the shedding was awful. We had a fur lined house, car and garage.  My sister vacuums 2-3 times daily. Of course, they are notorious leaners and can hold water in their jowels, after a drink of water, that will leave quite a river to follow. If I were going to get another St, I woud go thru rescue. |
| Well I must admit I am just an OES fan. My Dh wanted a St. once and we looked for one. He brought one home once - it was so darn huge he couldn't get it out of the car to show me! The big fellow was drooling loads it was seriously yuk! and there was clouds of shedding in the car boot. - I am asthmatic so it wouldn't have worked out. That is my only experience with the breed and I feel I had a lucky escape when DH settled on the OES!!!!!!! You simply cannot lose with an OES! Oesdog |
| I am a OES all of they way |
OES all the way, the only other breed id have is a newfie  Saints are beautiful but i couldnt coppe with the fur everywhere |
| Yeah I am with you on the fur bit at least the OES has the decency to shed it all in useful wool balls you could knit into a jumper if you were so inclined! The St. just wanted to kill me with flying fluff and gooo balls! I like Newfeeeees too I am a big dog lady! If I had a choice between a St and a Newfee the Newfee would win! Maybe you could show your DH a pic of one of those?????? OES -  |
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