Pawpaw, Quince, Persimmon, Service Tree, Mountain Ash....?
We are thinking of adding these types of trees to our fruit tree area. I just recently tried some Quince jam which I liked. I also had some dried Mulberry's for the time recently and really liked them. |
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| I grew up with a Mulberry tree (much to the amusement of my friends who always thought Mulberries came from bushes). A Humongous tree that stood in my parents yard when they purchased their first home in Canada in the 60's. It still stands today and produces fruit amongst it's ancient twisted branches. It's the coolest tree to climb too!
Birds loved the tree and our yard was a beautiful habitat for them. The tree just kept growing and today stands above my moms two story home. Not for the small garden. The bad part....it overhung the clothes line and fish pond in our yard. The berries would drop when they were ripe - red when hard and bitter, ripe when they turn black (much like blackberries) and sweet to the taste. Yummy. However when they dropped on white sheets or worse our clothes, those dang things stained forever. I remember growing up as kid with constant stains on my clothes and the explaination of mulberries that were to blame. To this day I still don't know anyone who had a mulberry tree in their yard. Today, I'd buy a quince (don't think I've tasted the jam) but gardening books always applaud it's merits as a fantastic jam. I am attracted to the beautiful flowers it produces in the spring. Good luck with your choice! Marianne |
| I like persimmon. I don't know how to describe it, though. |
I can tell when the mulberries are ripe down by the irrigation ditch, my bird feeders get blue poop on them  So the stain travels beyond the huge tree.
Only had quince and persimmon. Quince tree vs. quince bush = tree looks like an apple tree, fruit is large, yellow like grapefruit......well, mishapen grapefruit. Taste.........ah, you use it with other fruits to make jam as quince is full of pectin, taste, no, don't bother. Fair fall color of fruit. Quince bush is a bush, pretty spring flowers, little or no fruit. Persimmon for warmer climates. Fruit is "custardy" and pleasant. Ripens way late in season.......like October/November. Pretty hanging in trees! Good fall foliage color too. Mtn. Ash....never tasted but probably mostly a jelly producer and who needs the sugar? PawPaw, never had it. |
| forgot the Sorbus......Service tree. Fruit really has to almost rot before it is edible, way tooooo sour even when "ripe." It's like a Mtn. Ash on steriods.....bigger compound leaves, bigger fruit. |
| our next door neighbor had a mulberry tree...it provided excellent shade, even for us....however, that darn tree dropped more crap in our yard than the shade was worth...basically, it was a p.i.t.a!
ann finally chopped it down....now there is a great lemon tree.... |
 I ate paw-paw while living in Bermuda: it's sort of bland if it's the same fruit! |
| I love mulberries... I thought paw-paw seeds were poisonous?
edit: looked it up, don't see anything about them being poisonous, maybe that was something else I was thinking of?  Haven't had my coffee yet  |
| Persimmons are VERY popular in korea, and one of my favorites growing up. It's a unique taste, so I don't know how to describe it either. I know there are generally 2 types.
One that is hard like apples, and another that is soft and sooooooooo yummy. My mom likes the hard kind, and I go absolutely wild for the Hachiya kind. I would say it was my FAVORITE fruit, but never name it since most people haven't had it. |
| Thanks for all your comments!!! I went ahead and made my order. By the time this month is over we are going to have a whole lot more trees. Next year we plan on adding berry bushes and vines. But here is our list of trees we are putting in...
Apples (We are gonna make our own cider. Yummy) 1.) Gravenstein 2.) Empire 3.) Amere De Berthcourt 4.) Spitzenberg 5. )Dolgo Asian Pears 6.) Chojuro 7.) Shinseiki Cherries (One is sweet for eating and the other is for canning for pies.) 8.) Lapin 9.) Montmorency Mountain Ash 10.) Rabina 11.) Rosina Mulberry 12.) Illinois Everbearing Pawpaw 13.) Mitchell 14.) Taytwo American Persimmon 15.) John Rick Quince 16.) Smyrna Stone Pine (For our own pine nuts. Making pesto will be grand.) 17.) 2 Korean Stone Pines 19.) Empress Tree (Fast growing so good use for firewood.) |
| How much space do you have? That's a ton of trees! |
Joahaeyo wrote: Persimmons are VERY popular in korea, and one of my favorites growing up. It's a unique taste, so I don't know how to describe it either. I know there are generally 2 types.
One that is hard like apples, and another that is soft and sooooooooo yummy. My mom likes the hard kind, and I go absolutely wild for the Hachiya kind. I would say it was my FAVORITE fruit, but never name it since most people haven't had it. Yeah I had never heard of them before either. But I am excited about trying them. I got the american version instead of the asian version. I found a place that sells them but you can't seem to find them (or any other of the stuff I got other than the apples, pears, and cherries) in the nursery's here. http://onegreenworld.com/ Why is it that? Do people only want to eat apples? |
ButtersStotch wrote: How much space do you have? That's a ton of trees!
Hehehe I know. Most of the orchard is going into the garden area. Translation: deer fence. My husband currently plans the garden to be 15,000 square feet which is about 3/8th of an acre. We have about 4.5 acres. |
| He plans on putting all those trees into that 15,000 square feet? Ah, that's on the conservative side. That mulberry could easily take 15,000 square feet root space. Those roots spread 50 or more feet in all directions. Keep sunlight in mind......the mulberry and Princess trees are fast growing and can shade out the slower ones.
How long does it take stone pines to form nuts in Oregon? I'm not sure I'd live long enough if planted here. You'll probably have better luck with the older or "heritage" apples than I did, big difference in soils. Montie is my favorite cherry, just plain reliable. Looks exciting, good luck. |
| My 2 cents - too many trees for the space.
They will get huge and you are asking for disease and pest problems. They do much better with space to breath and have their roots spread. I have 6 mature fruit trees and a few smaller ornamentals in that amt of space. |
| No, they aren't all going in there. First off, most of the fruit trees are on semi-dwarf rootstock. We know the mulberry, persimmon, and stone pines will get large, so they will be in one of the pastures. We plan to use the Empress tree as a firewood experiment, so it is also going to get started in a pasture so we have room to cultivate more of them from cuttings.
That leaves 14 trees in the 12-16 ft mature size range. We are spacing them 20 ft by 15 ft apart down the east side of the garden area in two rows. That seems to be the recommended spacing from several different sources and takes up about 1/3rd the garden area. I am so excited about it all. We have absolutely awesome soil as we live near a river. When we told one nursery owner where we lived at she told us 'we had the soil of gods' and was jealous.  We figured we should get the trees first and get them going as they will take the longest to get started and want to see fruit in our lifetime. |
Pawpaws are yummy you should also think about an Avocado tree, you need to plant two a Male and Female for it to fruit. As long as your not in too cold a climate there easy to grow.  |
| Ooh, I'd love an avocado tree! |
ButtersStotch wrote: Ooh, I'd love an avocado tree!
me too!!! we just have tangerine and lemon....boring..... |
| Why don't you grow one Darcy? Then you could set up a stand and sell them for a quarter or fifty cents each. There would be a line!!! Avocados are so much more expensive here then in Arizona.
I don't think that we have the right temps for growing them here or I would be wanting to plant them too. I LOVE avocados!!!!!! |
| Grrr, I have had such a bad experience with this company (One Green World) that I won't be ordering from them again. Nice selection they have but the customer service is awful. If you have a problem don't expect it to get fixed.
Does anyone have a different West Coast online nursery that you can find rare fruit trees and bushes from? Or just an online place that you would order from again? |
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