2X weaves

Anyone have any experience with training on the 2x weaves? we startes a weave class today and did a bit of 2x's. I can see how this makes for a solid weave - now just to get to the practice part :?
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I don't know what that is.

Can you describe it?
SheepieMommy wrote:
I don't know what that is.

Can you describe it?


susan garret has a system of teaching weaves using sections of two weaves. its supossed to proof entries, as well as ensuring drive through the weaves.
I don't know how they compare. I understand it in theory. I am going to a seminar (working one) with Chewie next saturday. The 2 main things the beginner level (us!) part is working on is weaves and contacts.

We are supposedly learning 4 different styles of teaching weaves. I'm sure they will be one of the ways we are taught. I will let you know what I think. :wink:
got sheep wrote:
I don't know how they compare. I understand it in theory. I am going to a seminar (working one) with Chewie next saturday. The 2 main things the beginner level (us!) part is working on is weaves and contacts.

We are supposedly learning 4 different styles of teaching weaves. I'm sure they will be one of the ways we are taught. I will let you know what I think. :wink:


In a beginner class they teach you contacts? I never even heard of it until I started with the new place I'm working at now :roll:
kerry wrote:
Anyone have any experience with training on the 2x weaves? we startes a weave class today and did a bit of 2x's. I can see how this makes for a solid weave - now just to get to the practice part :?


Ok now I'm jealous. I want a weave class!!!
Simon's Mom wrote:
In a beginner class they teach you contacts? I never even heard of it until I started with the new place I'm working at now :roll:


Well, then you've obviously stepped up in the world in terms of classes if you're talking how to teach the contact performance (what style). We're not talking getting the dog on full height equipment. That comes after they've learned the performance that secures them touching the yellow. Then you backchain the contacts one at a time starting by lowering them and then gradually working your way up while maintaining your contact ("hit the yellow") performance (we do dogwalk, then A-frame, then teeter last) .

As for weaves, most OES seem to well with the channel method -- and in fact that seems to be the most common method used in the breed. The other popular methods are weave-o-matics, 2 x 2 and luring and/or gating with straight poles. All four will work, though I am NOT a fan of luring. I was watching at the run-thru this morning and a handful of people still use this and though their dogs could probably be weaned off the hand motions, many handlers apparently can not. It's very hard to teach independant weaves in this way unless the handler is very self-disciplined it seems. 2 x 2 is supposed to be an excellent method to teach entries. I don't know any OES people offhand who've used it, though there's a person in California who may have (Kerry, you should ask on the performance list - Margie has attended some Susan Garrett seminars if I'm not mistaken and may have tried this)

Kristine
Simon's Mom wrote:
In a beginner class they teach you contacts? I never even heard of it until I started with the new place I'm working at now :roll:


well, there are many reasons to be careful about where you take classes. says the person who is retraining a very forgiving dog from ytears of bad nike training.


Mad Dog wrote:

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As for weaves, most OES seem to well with the channel method -- and in fact that seems to be the most common method used in the breed. The other popular methods are weave-o-matics, 2 x 2 and luring and/or gating with straight poles. All four will work, though I am NOT a fan of luring. I was watching at the run-thru this morning and a handful of people still use this and though their dogs could probably be weaned off the hand motions, many handlers apparently can not. It's very hard to teach independant weaves in this way unless the handler is very self-disciplined it seems. 2 x 2 is supposed to be an excellent method to teach entries.


this class uses 2x's, channels and WAMs (we used luring before- not a good method IMHO) . Marley thinks the Wams are annoying - "excuse me these are in my way and I can step over them - what is your point?"

My favorite things about the 2X's so far?

1)they are so easy to make,
2) they fit in any room of the house (we are currently training in the foyer)and
3) there is no real way to do the groundwork incorrectly as long as you follow the rules- one way in, no luring etc.


I may actually incorporate them (2x's) into the Newf's play time. it is something you can do with a very young dog and not have to worry about ortho issues (when you are working straight on)
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