Octuplets' Mom Speaks Out
Every aspect about her and the story is disturbing and I'm sure her issues will become a major part of the childrens life. The doctors that continued to impregnate her should be brought up on malpractice charges. |
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| It absolutely disgusts me as well.
D I S G U S T S |
| I agree.
The whole week that the publicist was saying, Everyone just wait until you hear her story, then you'll change your minds... Well, I've heard her story and she's just nuts. And I hate how she's trying to bring in the whole, People are only upset b/c I'm single thing... |
| On a personal level I could not disagree more with her choice.
But I defend her right to make the choice. The doctors who implanted the eggs, however --- I think they are criminally negligent. |
| I too, believe the doctors were totally irresponcible with this woman. Those poor kids...... |
| i am not sure I defend her choice to have 14 children and expect the state to support them- or as is implied in the article have 8 children so that she can get sponsored by corporate America. there was a multiple birth in my neck of the wood years back and the grandfather was heard many times saying the parents expected corporate America to support the family with endorsements, and the state to pay all the medical and special education costs. I believe the parents later were indicted for something to do with money they got under some false pretenses.
if she really thinks she can support 14 kids on a counselor's salary, she hasn't bothered to look in the want ads at the hiring rates. |
| I want to know if they knew there were 8 and did she???
Drs you are at fault!!!!!!!!!!!! But it is her right. GRRRRRRR So now who pays for her children and can they stop her if she wants more!   |
| That's up to her and the deals they can make with corporate America though, isn't it?
I think with the amount of negative publicity involved already, it's going to be much less likely many corporations are going to choose to be associated with her. I would never want the government to say how many children people can have. That's China-think. Therefore, I support and defend her RIGHT to choose to do it. It's stupid, it's irresponsible, but she makes the choice. I sure feel sorry for the children though. |
| I definitely don't think people should be told how many kids they can or can't have. But I'd like to know what the dr was thinking when he knew she had a very successful history of IVF working and then going against the medical guidelines of the # of embryos to place. As a patient, can you really say to the doctor, no I'd like 8 put in please when the doctor normally would only put in 2...and then have the dr agree?
I wonder if the doctor is the dad, lol... But yeah, with her saying as soon as she finished her degree and then she'll be able to support her kids...last I heard counselors weren't making enough to support 15 people. And...why couldn't she wait a year to finish her degree and THEN have the rest of her kids... |
| I read that no major corporations have come forward to help her with anything - diapers, food, clothing, housing, transportation - all zilch.
In her interview with Ann Curry on the Today Show today, she said she felt "so isolated" with being an only child in a "dysfunctional" family and that's why she always wanted a large family. She said when she was impregnated with these 8, she was hoping for only 1 but when they offered the option of selective reduction, she flatly refused. So yes, the doctors and she knew how many babies she was carrying. And she also said she used the same doctors for all her in vitro procedures. The whole thing just thoroughly disgusts me. The doctors were only seeing dollar signs. I can't believe they really ever considered what life would be like for 14 children of a single mother. Oh, and she also said that the "sperm donor" for all 14 children was the same man, and that she will welcome him into their lives "when he feels like he can." Ugh, ugh, ugh.  |
| The cost of the eight premature babies' care for however long they will be in the NICU will put her in debt for a very long time. If Medicare/Medicaid is paying for them then they should turn around and sue her to get the money back. She chose to keep the 8 babies knowing she could not pay for their care. She should have known the near certainty of them being born premature and the care would not be cheap.
Yes the Drs are culpable as well. The standard of practice only calls for 2 embryos to be transfered. She could have done 2 and then repeated the procedure later to use more of her eggs. My next question is who paid for the in vitro. That is far from inexpensive too. As far as her finishing school and being a counselor, she will still need assistance to feed and cloth all those kids. A counselor's salary will not be near enough for any kind of life for her kids. I am all for pro choice. But this goes way beyond deciding to have a child. I don't care that she is single, she is still going to be dependent on her parents and society. |
| I support a womans choice either way, it's her body and life to manage.
However, this womans actions smack of child abuse (IMO). It wasn't her love of children that prompted the continued breeding, it was unresolved childhood issues.  I hope the local child services keep a close eye on her.
In the end, it's the children that suffer and that's just wrong. I don't see anything good/healthy coming from her involvement with children. As for the Doctor, that's an entire rant on it's own. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. And I won't even lauch into "what the hell were her parents thinking". But then that seems to be the main root of her original problem. |
| I found it interesting in the interview when she said she felt isolated and her family was dysfunctional---yet she still lives with them at age 33 and they are taking care of her kids?? Her mom threatened that she'd be gone when her daughter got out of the hospital...now I REALLY wouldn't blame her. |
Drezzie's Mom wrote: I read that no major corporations have come forward to help her with anything - diapers, food, clothing, housing, transportation - all zilch.
I don't want to see the children punished for their mothers unstable choices, but how many folks that make wise choices while planning their family's get corporate backing. NADA! I'm sorry, she doesn't deserve recognition or support from anyone. She made the bad choice, now she has to be the adult that makes it work, for all 14 children. Can anyone tell what kind of anger this woman instills in me? She is exploiting innocent children. GGGGRRRRRR!!!!!!! |
| sorry - I don't see this as a pro choice issue. choosing to have any life style that you can't support and falls to others to pay for is not a personal choice it is a collective choice. how is this different than the banks taking a bail out and then usingt he money for a retreat for top employess?
in this case the State is going to be paying for these kids, they should have custody of them. and yes I am cranky - I am tired of being cold!!! |
| I think it's pro-choice in that she should have the right to carry the babies if that's what she believes...but then there are also other options out there, like adoption afterwards. |
Each to their own ideas, all I can say with her having 6 kids at home already and another 8 waiting to come home, good luck in raising the tribe, glad it's her and not me with so many. 
Also the facility that implanted 8 embryos has a lot to answer too for allowing so many to be implanted. No one has the right to judge but ethically & morally there is a lot of why was it allowed in the first place. Especially with 6 young ones at home already. Let's hope all the brood grow up happy, healthy and well cared for with 14 youngsters hate to see what it would cost by the time they go to college  Even diapers, food and medical bills etc etc raising 14 all up CRIKEYS |
| Generally, she has the right to bear as many children as SHE can support monetarily and emotionally.
I hope corporations stay clear of her! This only furthers the notion "somebody else will take care of me" attitude. What part of the stimulus package does she expect?? This was an attempt, in part, for publicity. It is sickening since she already has children with special needs, now how many of these 8 will be afflicted? There needs to be a serious discussion, medical, legal, psychological, media on this issue. I agree, this lady has problems and now her innocent children will suffer, indeed child abuse. |
SheepieBoss wrote: Generally, she has the right to bear as many children as SHE can support monetarily and emotionally. Legally, she has the "right" to have as many as she wants to have period. The state/fed doesn't regulate how many children a person can have based on their income or emotional capacity. Morally/ethically, nobody should have more children than they can support monetarily and emotionally. SheepieBoss wrote: I hope corporations stay clear of her!
I agree but do you see how it's a double-edged sword? If the corporations stay clear (which I think they will), then much more of the financial burden is going to be placed on the state. The more financial stress this mom faces, the less likely of a positive environment she can provide for the children, and the more likely they become issues for the state in the future. While I don't want anybody to condone or encourage this behavior, if she needs assistance I hope it will come from private citizens, churches and charities. I doubt it will, but that would be the better outcome. |
| I think she has the right to have as many children as she wants, and the state has the right to ensure the children are being well cared for.
Some people are capable of taking care of so many -- they have and organize a support community, they have funds or funding, they have two parents, they don't have 6 other kids... but none of this appears to be true in the current case. I think a judge needs to look at the case and determine if she is capable of caring for so many children given all of her unique circumstances, and decide if the children would be better suited in her care, foster care or her parental rights terminated and the children placed for adoption. Just like in every child welfare case. |
| I agree Ron. And now that she's put her family in this spotlight, she will have CPS keeping a close eye, I'm sure.
Anywho, I find this little math equation interesting: Quote: She told NBC she struggled for seven years before finally giving birth to her first child. According to state documents, Suleman told a doctor she had three miscarriages. Another doctor disputed that number, saying she had two ectopic pregnancies, a dangerous condition in which a fertilized egg implants somewhere other than in the uterus.
Suleman said all 14 of her children were born by in vitro fertilization from sperm donated by a friend. She's 33 today...she has had six successful pregnancies (one resulting in twins), and she says she struggled for seven years prior to having her first? Do the math...that means she had to have started "trying" at 19 at the latest - assuming at least 1 pregnancy a year. If they were spaced out any further than that then we're talking younger than that! |
| If some/all of these octuplet babies end up handicapped as a result of being a part of a multiple birth that inevidably resulted in premature delivery,thus greatly increasing their chances of handicaps,can those children then sue the evil doctor that implanted so many at once?I did read,4 of these babies are the result of 2 spilt embryoes so technically 6 took,but she admits 8 were put in.She and more importantly,The Doctor,knew it was possible for all them to take and all them to split,even. |
| She now has a website set up to donate cash to her... |
| This is my take on it. I dare someone tell me how many children I am allowed to have. I'd be furious even if it meant stopping all the crazy homeless folk from having a gazillion kids and living on welfare.
However, there should be a serious penalty for the doctors for implanting that many in her. Was it like 6? My SIL was only allowed 1, and she has twins now. Now that she has made her life public, social services SHOULD be watching her closely to make sure all the kids can be fed 3 meals a day and have adequate living conditions. The chick makes me sick to my stomach. |
Quote: LOS ANGELES (AP) - Property records show the house where the Southern California woman who gave birth to octuplets lives is under the threat of foreclosure.
Los Angeles County property records indicate the house was in mortgage default on Feb. 9. The home in Whittier is owned by Angela Suleman, the mother of octuplets mom Nadya Suleman. Nadya Suleman has lived in the three-bedroom home with her six other children. The default notice shows Angela Suleman is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments and that the house could be sold at auction beginning May 5. Angela Suleman's phone has been disconnected and she could not be immediately reached for comment. Her daughter has been under public scrutiny since giving birth on Jan. 26. Twenty Three THOUSAND behind?!
Oh holy wow. |
| Who knows... maybe enough idiots will come forward and give her that new house and pay off the 50K+ she stataed she had in loans. |
| My opinion, she's a total nut job. If she thinks she can take care of 8 babies and 6 other kids she is totally out of her flipping mind. Unless those other kids are going to take care of the babies, which I am sure will be the case, and that is VERY unfair to those children.
With 8 babies I am sure there is absolutely no time, when they are all asleep. I think it's completely unfair that my tax dollars are paying for her family's medical and food bills. If she wanted those kids, SHE should be paying their bills.
A $1,000,000.00 bill just for the hospital.
Hello, California has no money!! If she could save up $100,000 to pay for these procedures just to get pregnant, why didn't she save for after... like for raising them.
It's irresponsible, ridiculous and just plain crazy. She wanted a big family.... 6 kids is a HUGE family by today's standards, 14 is insane, unless you are a trillionare. There is no way to properly raise 14 kids being a single Mom, paying for all the essentions and College...etc. It is just completely impossible. She's just the type of person who is just never happy with what they have and are constantly trying to fill a void. This would be a mental condition. She needs psychiatric care to get over her childhood and move on.... and all I can think about is those poor kids and pray that they will all be okay living with that whack job of a Mother. End of Rant! |
I heard last night she was offered 1M for 1 adult film by I guess one of the biggest companies.  To be honest, it's all funny to me. ...that this is what the world thinks of this angelina jolie wanna-be.
She's gone out of her way to prove to everyone she's a wonderful mom and example for these kids that I'm sure she won't do it, but I'd gets lots of giggles out of it if she did. Setting herself up even more... |
Joahaeyo wrote: I heard last night she was offered 1M for 1 adult film by I guess one of the biggest companies.
To be honest, it's all funny to me. ...that this is what the world thinks of this angelina jolie wanna-be.She's gone out of her way to prove to everyone she's a wonderful mom and example for these kids that I'm sure she won't do it, but I'd gets lots of giggles out of it if she did. Setting herself up even more... I heard about that offer too. All I could think about was WHY would anyone want to see her naked, after having 8 kids stretch out her stomach. I saw Kate's stomach from Jon and Kate plus 8 and she's a fairly trim woman normally and her leftover skin was huge! She's the one who started this. When they were born she could have just right away gone public and said here are my babies...not tried to do the whole suspense, wait for the best offer from the press thing that she did. |
| I also heard that her ex-boyfriend has requested paternity tests on all of the kids. It appears that she supposedly told him that she had some type of cancer (ovarian?) and he donated sperm to the bank where she was artificially inseminated. Could this get any more complicated? |
| OY! Those kids don't have a chance. How far from reality is this woman!!! I still think the Doctor should have to shoulder some of this burden. S/he was totally irresponsible. |
| I heard the chick just went to disneyland WHILE VOLUNTEERS stayed at her new home painting, doing carpeting, and renovating for her. Wow, what a top notch mom! Selfish piece of #@$@% is what she is.
Oh, and then went out an spent 1,000 dollars on mac cosmetics. I thought she said her family comes first? I'm both happy and upset Dr. Phil was able to find a group to help take care of her kids around the clock, including transportation, for the first 18 months (at least). That's wonderful, but I rather see her fail now and them go to good homes than later on. |
Joahaeyo wrote: That's wonderful, but I rather see her fail now and them go to good homes than later on.
I kinds agree with that - she can never really make a go fo this and if those kids were in decent adoptive homes they could avoid a lot of hardache down the road. I really thought Dr Phil was an a$$ for getting involved - but he does love publicity. |
| She's probably gotten lots of donations or $$ from doing all her interviews, so she's thinking hey--I'll spend some on myself...and then 5 months down the road when there are no more donations or tv appearances and she's flat broke again, she'll wish she didn't go out and spend that money on stupid stuff.
It's just so sad. There's no right answer or easy answer to all this. I hope that it all works out okay for all those babies, without anything majorly traumatic happening... |
| From what I've heard on the Dr Phil show, all the money donated is going to be set up as a Trust and a retired Judge(I can't remember his name) will be responsible for paying the money out for the babies needs. They have made sure that Nadea does not have control of the funds.
Also an Angel Network will be with the babies 24/7 for at least the next 18 mts. |
| These poor babies. It's like they're from a human puppy mill. |
Bet she gets a stipend so she doesn't have to work. She also may have some of that car accident money still available. Bottom line Dr Phil is enabling another vistim to live off a scam and raise 14 more just like her - okay I may be a little tired today  |
| The whole thing is so sad. So many lives will be touched in a good or bad way over the coming years. BUT... think. Have you ever done something in your past that even though you can't admit it out loud , you feel really sorry you did?? Fair enough...she did a dooozy, but now is the time to acknowledge the damage is done, make sure all help goes to the kids and not make another 14 lives the responsibility of the authorities in the future. No one is saying the lass did the right thing, but I bet if the kids had a choice they wouldn't have chosen this situatuion for themselves, so lets not clobber them. I bet I will be banned from this site now. |
| I partly agree, but the difference between mistakes I've made and this one is... my mistakes wouldn't land me in the loony bin. If I see myself falling, I've always live by the philosophy of digging myself out ...not enjoy my ditch until I reach hell. She continued to have kids despite not being able to afford even ONE, continued to add up her debt, and after 6 kids.... decided she wanted 1 or 2 more...). I believe her last kids were twins, so I do not buy at all she was just expecting 1. The greedy ...... .....probably wanted more. Making these kind of decisions is something I would have NEVER done in a million years. |
| Oh I was scared to open that letter. I fully agree with you. My mistakes have never been doozeys like that one, I do however think her doctor should be financially resposible for a good part of the kids up bringing. As for adopting them out... well we have a little girl from china who can't beleive that someone was that rotten that they could give her to someone else to raise .If you know how kids are abandoned in China you will know how kids just don't get the realities of the world. I'm really sorry if I offended you. |
| I am not offended - just confused. are you implying a child is betterr off in a bad situation with a biological paretn than in a good adoptive home? yes adopted kids will have to deal with being adopted, but I am pretty close to an adopted young adult and she is very happy and comfortable with it. everyone has to deal with something - it really is just part of life if it is handled properly. |
| Ming--it takes a lot to be banned from this site, so don't worry! Hearing other people's opinions and points of view is important, especially when it's placed in the Food for Thought section--differing ideas are expected here.
I don't think the doctor should have any financial responsibility to raise her kids. It's not his business to check her finances before he does the procidure. For all he knows, she could seem to be an unemployed perpetual student but really an heiress to some great fortune and have billions of dollars (I know I'm reaching there). I think this should be a jumping off place for future regulations and enforcement of them about how many embryos can be implanted at one time--more than just a guideline. Those first 2 who came home--so cute! And I can't believe they already weigh the same as my daughter when she was born. |
MING wrote: I bet I will be banned from this site now.  Why would you think that? Nobody gets banned for expressing their opinion here. MING wrote: Oh I was scared to open that letter. What letter? MING wrote: I'm really sorry if I offended you.
Who seemed to be offended? Did I miss something here? I feel like I missed a few episodes of Desperate Housewives and I can't figure out why Bree and Carlos are no longer married to Mike. |
Ron wrote: Did I miss something here? I feel like I missed a few episodes of Desperate Housewives and I can't figure out why Bree and Carlos are no longer married to Mike. Now that's a version of DH we don't get on our ABC channel.  |
| Surely the welfare system she is living on is means tested? If she had enough money for ivf why was she getting assistance from the tax payer? |
| I take it back!! I have just seen this girl in the back of a limo laughing with her son and sending a messege to the donor. I thought she would have taken the situation a little more to heart than she has! |
| no she will and actually already does get some assistance. I heard two versions of wherre she got the money for the IVF - one was student loans, the other was a settlement from a car accident. |
| Her claim is that she received $150,000 from an accident at work. She worked in a Mentally Disabled Hospital and there was a riot there and someone threw a table on top of her which injured her back. She says that is the money she used for the 7 different implant procedures at $10,ooo a pop...which gave her 14 children in total. She said that she and the previous 6 children lived off her Student Loans. She has also said that either two or three of the 6 older children have disabilities so received Social Security Disability. I believe she also received Food Stamps. |
| So, Octomom just fired her fleet of free nannies... |
| What?! |
| She said they were spying on her and reporting back to DCF, which they probably are. Good for them! Octomom is one sick woman and shouldn't have these kids. It's a disaster waiting to happen. |
| I'm sure it's part of their job for anyone to take note of what happens in the house they work in and of course are required to report it to CPS. If there's nothing to hide, then why not go ahead and let them.
She said it's because Gloria Allred, whoever that is (I've heard the name but don't know why), is the Angels in Waiting's lawyer, and Gloria Allred already sent in a complaint to CPS before the babies were even born, so Octomom feels like they are all out to get her. So sad. Poor babies. I read she's hired other nannies, but if she's on food stamps, how can she really afford to pay for nannies, especially once all this mess quiets down. |
| FREE SERVICE!!!!
Of course they're going to turn you in if you're being a dang neglectful idiot! I guess she thinks if she pays them, these new people won't report her if she does something wrong. |
Joahaeyo wrote: FREE SERVICE!!!!
Of course they're going to turn you in if you're being a dang neglectful idiot! I guess she thinks if she pays them, these new people won't report her if she does something wrong. Big laugh on her! These people will just sell their stories to the Enquirer! |
| Actually the free nany service was a free training service for her own nannies (they changed the offer) and now she will use the Kaiser Permanente service to train her nnannies. they send out a PUBLIC health nurse. woder if it means the taxpayer sin Clifornia are paying for that? |
| Gloria Allred is a self-serving megalomaniacal Media ------ (fill in the blank) who seeks out the nearest TV camera.
Ohhh, was that out loud? |
Ron wrote: Gloria Allred is a self-serving megalomaniacal Media ------ (fill in the blank) who seeks out the nearest TV camera.
Ohhh, was that out loud? just a little - 
Glad to hear i am not alone in that opinion though |
kerry wrote: Ron wrote: Gloria Allred is a self-serving megalomaniacal Media ------ (fill in the blank) who seeks out the nearest TV camera. Ohhh, was that out loud? just a little - Glad to hear i am not alone in that opinion though What else has she been involved in? I've heard the name, but don't know why. |
| I think she first came to my attention during the 1st OJ trial.
From that equally evil wiki: Quote: She represented Amber Frey when Frey was a witness in the criminal case against Scott Peterson. She has also represented cases against the Boy Scouts of America for excluding an eleven year old girl named Katrina Yeaw, something she referred to as gender apartheid, and a case against the former Sav-On Drugstore chain for having both a boys and a girls toy section, as well as representing actress Hunter Tylo when producer Aaron Spelling fired her because of her pregnancy.[2] Early in her career in Los Angeles, Allred made a name for herself by successfully suing the then all-male Friars Club in Beverly Hills, an exclusive private club, over its membership discrimination policies.[citation needed] The lawsuit was brought by a professional woman in the late 1970s who was spurned by the club when her application was rejected based solely on her sex, a fact which the club denied but Allred proved in court. She formerly co-hosted a radio talkshow with Mark Taylor on KABC in Los Angeles. She also served as a panelist on the 1990 revival of television game show To Tell the Truth.[citation needed] She represented Paula Jones in the sexual harassment case against former U.S. president Bill Clinton, as well as Nicole Brown Simpson's family during the O. J. Simpson murder trial. She also represented photographer Henry Trappler in a lawsuit against Mötley Crüe drummer Tommy Lee. Allred is also known for her criticism of pop singer Michael Jackson. After watching media coverage of the Berlin event with Michael Jackson, she wrote a letter to California's Child Protective Services, asking for an investigation into the safety of Jackson's children. She also spoke on CNN about the subject. Child Protective Services does not make their investigations public, so it is not known whether any action was taken as a result of Allred's letter. When a reporter asked Jackson what he thought of Allred's complaints, he remarked "Ah, tell her to go to hell."[3] She was the University of Pennsylvania's College of Arts and Sciences' Distinguished Speaker at its 2006 graduation.[citation needed] On July 19, 2007 she filed a lawsuit in Superior Court on behalf of Elizabeth Mazzocchi against actor Esai Morales for "intentional and negligent transmission of a sexually transmitted disease, assault, battery, and breach of contract." Elizabeth Mazzocchi alleges that actor Esai Morales assaulted her and gave her herpes. The suit also alleges that Morales told Mazzocchi that if she ever called the police, he would have "every gangbanger in town looking to kill (her)."[4] She is representing three former Circuit City employees in an age discrimination lawsuit against that company after they fired 3,400 workers in April 2007.[5] In September 2007, she represented Tony Barretto, a former bodyguard of pop singer Britney Spears, in the child custody case between Spears and ex-husband Kevin Federline. She represented Mandi Hamlin in a March 2008 complaint against the TSA. Hamlin was reported to have been humiliated when she was made to take off her nipple rings in a Lubbock, Texas, airport.[1] In April 2008, it was reported that she had been hired by the family of the teenager who had been beaten and filmed by eight Florida teenagers.[6] She also appeared on Today with Jessica Gibson, who is counter-suing Rob Lowe for sexual harassment. [2] On February 24, 2004, Gloria Allred and her law firm, Allred, Moroco and Goldberg, filed the first lawsuit in California challenging the denial of marriage licenses as being unconstitutional. She took the case pro bono for Robin Tyler and Diane Olson and Rev. Troy Perry and his husband Phillip Ray De Blieck. On May 15, 2008, the California Supreme Court ruled in favor of equal marriage rights for lesbian and gay couples. On July 30, 2008, Gloria Allred filed a complaint with federal regulators against Downey Savings and Loan Association regarding check-cashing procedures. Marc Retmier, a 19 year old US Navy Hospitalman, was killed in action in Afghanistan in June 2008. Downey Savings refused to immediately cash his family's military bereavement checks, and Marc Retmier's family were forced to look elsewhere to secure funding necessary to pay for his funeral services. |
| I think her professional name is, "Opportunist". |
debcram wrote: I think her professional name is, "Opportunist".
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violet wrote: She said that she and the previous 6 children lived off her Student Loans.
Question: If she was living off of her student loans instead of going to school (which I haven't heard if she was actually attending classes or not) isn't that fraud? Here in Canada the loan (government issued) is first paid directly to the school and leftover monies are paid to the student. Sometimes you have to collect the cheques at the school. But you have to be enrolled and taking classes (maybe not showing up) but an "active enrollment". So can't she be charged with fraud? (finally I got to my question) I just find this all odd ... |
| As long as you are enrolled, which she was.... you can do whatever the heck you want with the money you get "for school." She has stated many of times, she was going, and there is nothing coming out saying she wasn't. Part-time students get money too. Normally, depending on the type of loan as you stated, the money IS first issued to the school. I always had leftover cash that I would use "for other things," but I also had cash coming in from other places (like GI Bill). |
Joahaeyo wrote: like GI Bill. GI Joe's benevolent brother. |
Indeed it is.  I just wish I had it now since it's 10x better than when I used it (it pays for boarding and all kinds of crap now). |
debcram wrote: Joahaeyo wrote: FREE SERVICE!!!! Of course they're going to turn you in if you're being a dang neglectful idiot! I guess she thinks if she pays them, these new people won't report her if she does something wrong. Big laugh on her! These people will just sell their stories to the Enquirer! The Octo Mom seems to have already sold her story to them. She has a business relationship with Radaronline.com which is owned by The National Enquirer and Star Magazines. |
| This has been on the news here too all the updates, the sacking of the nannies, Dr.Phills wife now saying to him it's affecting the marriage with his involvement in Octo Mom and all the things he has splashed out and supplied for her and she wants him to stop as she thinks this octo women cant be helped. (Bit Brittany Spears when he tried to get involved there so obviously for ratings for his show too) But I suppose ratings for a TV show when dealing with this women outweighs all when it comes to this nutty women and her managerie of kids and sponging off all, getting paid big money to tell her story and when it suits her.
I just hope all 14 children have a good life in the future and I hope this women fades away from the spotlight and stops cashing in on her notoriety and accepts help to raise the brood out of the public spotlight. Still think the doctors have a lot of answering to do for allowing this situation to occur with IVF treatment when she already had 6 youngsters at home. Ethically just not right and not right either on all 14 kids I wonder if in the future the kids will be fostered out if the money for all this publicity starts to run out? |
lord help us all if she hooks up with Anna Nicole Smith's ex  especially the poor children! |
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