Anyone planning on entering agility at the 2009 national?
Thanks! KB Hi Everyone, I need your HELP in obtaining some information as to how many will be coming to the 2009 National, in California, to compete in Agility and Obedience. The Agility judge and equipment is costing $400.00. Whether we have an entry of 5 or 1 it will cost $400.00. Plus the cost of the trophies and ribbons. It would be very helpful if we could have a response from you either way. Also, we need the same information from the obedience people. You can email me privately or back to the list. Since we have such limited funds and a limited number of people that will be attending, it is important to know what to expect. Please cross post to other list and email friends that you know competes in these events. Please check out the web sites below for all the 2009 National news. Deb has done a nice job on the OESCA web site. Take a look..it's very attractive. http://www.oldenglishsheepdogclubofamer ... index.html http://www.syix.com/oesrus/webpageoescs.html Thank you in advance, Margie Trebino - Performance Chairman mtrebino@mac.com Karen Stetler 2009 Show Chairman oesrus@syix.com |
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| I believe that the distance and Toby's track record in agility at past Nationals would make that a no for us. But we'll be there for 2010 back on the East Coast. |
Maxmm wrote: I believe that the distance and Toby's track record in agility at past Nationals would make that a no for us. But we'll be there for 2010 back on the East Coast.
Yeah, the distance alone puts it at a no for us too. We'll be back in force in '10. Should be a good year for performance in general in fact, based on who has youngsters they're working with. I'm hoping SOMEONE out west is still doing agility  Maybe some of the Seattle Club members....? 
Which reminds me -- how are the track record improvements going? Have classes started up again yet? Kristine |
| Classes just started again. ADD is rearing its ugly head again fir toby. Our instructor is having someone come in
Fr an in focus class so hopefully that helps. Suzi is the same. Everything comes pretty easily to her. Must be genetic she still looks at me like I'm the idiot when I ask her to jump anything. "don't you know we can just walk around this?" I'm pretty sure that there's a duhhhh attached to that too. |
Ha!  I can so see that happening. The wheels in their heads turning..."my Mom has lost her mind".  |
Maxmm wrote: Must be genetic she still looks at me like I'm the idiot when I ask her to jump anything. "don't you know we can just walk around this?" I'm pretty sure that there's a duhhhh attached to that too.
When I first started Che, if I didn't put a bar across the bottom, no matter how low, Che though he was supposed to walk/duck/belly crawl underneath the bar. Sort of the OES version of the limbo, I guess. 
Set her up in a sit in front of a jump, put the jump at 12-16" and lure her OVER it a few times if need be. Drop your hand with the cookie low in front of her nose so she'll jump round (that means round OVER the jump, think trajectory, - not AROUND. That may be what's confusing her )
In fact, this is a really great way to start teaching them to jump period. Once she's comfortable at 16" you can go up to 20". Later you can add jumps close together and teach her how to bounce them. That kind of thing. This concept is not natural for many OES who seem to think that the purpose is to hit the bar with some part of their body. Some have so little concept of jumping that they fling their bodies over. Not pretty.
Around and under are probably two of the more sensible approaches I've seen when you get right down to it 
Kristine |
I have a great training method for jumps. 
Put your low backed couch in the middle of the living room and tell your sheepie that under no circumstances should she/he get on it. Then stand back and watch them jump onto the seat cushions and then bounce over the back and then take a running jump over the back to get onto the seat cushions and then practice jumping the arm rests etc etc. I think Tiggy has worked out every jump/bounce combination possible for one couch including the flying leap with sideways landing so as not to hit the coffee table. |
| Her style is ok so far, I've been using kris tines orange cheese ball technique. Suzi just does not see the logic in going over things when there is obviously the easier option of going around. |
| Chewie is an "around or under" boy too. here I was always blaming it on Simon. I figured having a basset hound "big brother" did it.
I wouldn't be ready for agility this summer - even if I do manage to make it out there. I have been informed by an unnamed individual that we will be ready for 2010 however.  |
got sheep wrote: I have been informed by an unnamed individual that we will be ready for 2010 however.
I believe the unnamed individual - no relation, of course  - meant to infer her tremendous faith that the two of you will be ready for the wonderful event, not that you will OR ELSE....
Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: got sheep wrote: I have been informed by an unnamed individual that we will be ready for 2010 however. I believe the unnamed individual - no relation, of course - meant to infer her tremendous faith that the two of you will be ready for the wonderful event, not that you will OR ELSE.... Kristine LOL - I figured that one would get you.
Really, it is looking like OES world dominance isn't enough. Next is either midwestern OES owners dominance...... or Mad Dog progeny dominance.
But, goals are good. I just need to get my instructor back on her feet and back to teaching our classes. (Back injury)
We did go into the Paw yesterday and worked on hurdle jumps. We did pretty well. Definitely need LOTS of practice. Chewie is too smart. He never even ticks the wooden obedience jumps, but he knows those little PVC bars just fall off and don't hurt a bit. Egads, what am I in for! |
got sheep wrote: We did go into the Paw yesterday and worked on hurdle jumps. We did pretty well. Definitely need LOTS of practice. Chewie is too smart. He never even ticks the wooden obedience jumps, but he knows those little PVC bars just fall off and don't hurt a bit. Egads, what am I in for!
If he's hitting bars go back to the one jump and work those exercises (from a sit), starting at 16" and working your way up to 24". Still from a sit. That will force him to get his butt underneath himself and to push off properly and jump round. Reward when he jumps from a sit (if he stands first and then jumps his rear either isn't strong enough and he needs more conditioning work, hard to imagine in his case, or he just doesn't grasp the concept) AND keeps the bar up. Bar comes down, no reward, set him up and try again. Just do this a few minutes every day. When he's got that down, add another jump at bounce distance and eventually add a third. Every time you add a jump, take the height back down to 16" and work up. He won't magically learn to correct himself and the longer you let him do a line of jumps that he trashes, the more ingrained that will become in his mind. Not unlike his mom, as a matter of fact. She always believed getting from point A to point B as fast as possible was the ultimate goal and bars were optional Not something you want to have to go back and try to correct. Much better to teach him right from the start.
Sue will cover that in great depth at the seminar I imagine. Sybil, who rarely touches a bar, gets so upset when a bar comes down that she actually stops and glares at it. I need to go back and do some more foundation work with Mace, she was sort of rushed through the process. And I'm still working on it with Che and Liz, in Liz case because I let her jump flat and long for so many years. She gets over, but she takes off early or even when cued that we will be turning she is so one-track that she doesn't get the concept of collecting herself and lands far, far beyond what is necessary.
You'll be surprised how quickly he'll catch on. Kristine |
Hmm, maybe I'm doing them too low? and he's not taking them seriously? 
I was doing 12 and 16 inches for the jumps. I was really trying to concentrate on the form...... |
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