I made some last week, and I have had more gas than I can handle I am prone to food causeing this and am scard to try it again. It has taken me 5 days to get back to normal with meds. I love this soup too. I put ham, carrots and potato in it. Great on a cold day. Thanks, Deana |
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If you do not regularly eat beans, yes. Your system doesn't have the enzymes to digest this properly. You need to train your body to accept the beans by regular consumption, starting with just a little bit at a time.
Beano pill or drops helps with digestion if you don't want to try the regular consumption route. Then again you could have just had a tummy problem unrelated to the split pea consumption. I'd be concerned enough to pick up some Beano for the future, though. Finally, I find undercooking does seem to bring on more....ah.....gas problems. |
Thank you so much, I did not know the split peas did this. I will get the beano. It has been days the I had to undo my jeans LOL. |
SheepieBoss wrote: If you do not regularly eat beans, yes. Your system doesn't have the enzymes to digest this properly. You need to train your body to accept the beans by regular consumption, starting with just a little bit at a time.
Well, that explains a decade's old family mystery. One of my family's favorite albeit rarely made (lots of work) recipes is traditionally accompanied by yellow split pea soup which is then traditionally accompanied by an assortment of gastric events and so on you don't talk about in mixed company Which reminds me, is my mother the only female on the planet who GIGGLES when she gets caught in fragante delicato if you will? I thought that was a male thing. I'm concerned because I've heard that the older you get the more a daughter becomes like her mother and I've already started hearing her laugh and her words come out of my mouth. I'd rather not take that tradition any further. Already I let one - eh - go just the other day and it was dramatic enough to send the foster dog fleeing for her life, probably afraid I was going to blame HER, which, sad to say, made me laugh. I fear I'm on a path of no return here... Kristine & Daphne ("Sybil and I get blamed for EVERYTHING") |
Next time the family gets together for the pea soup, pass the Beano around the table and simply say, "family tradition ends here."
I remember when a brother had a vacation condo not far from where my DH and I lived. When brother and wife brought friends for vacation, we took them to a good Mexican restaurant. None were used to eating beans. Guess that night it was a night long wind instrument performance thru the condo. For my very straight laced SIL to mention it, it must have been something! Actually, I'm off the mark a bit about developing the enzyme: Quote: Many edible beans, including broad beans and soybeans, contain oligosaccharides (particularly Raffinose and Stachyose), a type of sugar molecule also found in cabbage. An anti-oligosaccharide enzyme is necessary to properly digest these sugar molecules. As a normal human digestive tract does not contain any anti-oligosaccharide enzymes, consumed oligosaccharides are typically digested by bacteria in the large intestine. This digestion process produces flatulence-causing gases as a byproduct. This aspect of bean digestion is the basis for the children's rhyme "Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit."
Some species of mold produce alpha-galactosidase, an anti-oligosaccharide enzyme, which humans can take to facilitate digestion of oligosaccharides in the small intestine. This enzyme, currently sold in the U.S. under the brand-name Beano, can be added to food or consumed separately. In many cuisines beans are cooked along with natural carminatives such as anise seeds, coriander seeds and cumin. Other strategies include soaking beans in water for several hours before mixing them with other ingredients to remove the offending sugars. Sometimes vinegar is added, but only after the beans are cooked as vinegar interferes with the beans' softening. Fermented beans will not produce most of the intestinal problems that unfermented beans will, since bacteria can consume the offending sugars. I know I cook beans but first soak them then pour off the water. Then I bring them to a boil for a bit, let the foam rise and then pour off the water, or as I tell myself, drain off the F**ts. The third water is what I cook the beans in and they are generally "air" free. That would be difficult with split peas as they aren't normally soaked before hand, but it might help to precook them a bit and drain off the water. |
Mad Dog wrote: Which reminds me, is my mother the only female on the planet who GIGGLES when she gets caught in fragante delicato if you will? Kristine & Daphne ("Sybil and I get blamed for EVERYTHING") My daughter giggles when she does...but she's only 7 months old! |
Read about the cabbage being a culprit too.
Wouldn't you know, I just put a pork roast and cabbage in the crock pot..... |
Dawn, as cold as it is back there, you need something to keep you warm! Your dogs aren't going to mind.....normally. Some get offended and leave the room |
Last week I ate chili with beans 3 days in a row and my digestive system complained LOUDLY! Beans, peas, they all have a lot of fiber and can produce lots o' gas. Beware! |
SheepieBoss wrote: Dawn, as cold as it is back there, you need something to keep you warm! Your dogs aren't going to mind.....normally. Some get offended and leave the room
LOL - I am still eating my roast and cabbage. I should be able to start competing with Chewie soon........ BTW, I heard on the news we are going to get through January with the temp staying below freezing the entire month. |
Oh NO! Mr. Perfect is a gas bag........... Well, I guess nobody and no dog is perfect!
Chewie, save your best for carting and sledding days when Mom is right behind! |
Well I don't know how this is related to Old (or young) English Sheepdogs, but since we are on topic of split pea soup I sort of had the 'reverse' scenario happen. I had a very nice Christmas dinner (or rather lunch) at a Chinese owned 'American' style restaurant that was open on actual holiday. The food was awesome and was generous portion. Came with salad, and choice of dessert. Well, later when L got back home, as I enjoyed this meal, my intestinal tract had other opinions! In other words I got sick. I had fever that was above 'low grade' (which worried me as I did survive typhoid once) that peaked at 39.3C! I was 'prostrate' delirious and had bad stomach pain. I was so close to going to nearest emergency ward. Then I had diarrhoea. It was of what I remember of when years past I did have that typhoid fever. That vile odour and greenish 'split pea soup' runs. Could I have so late since sustained some momentary relapse to TF? This lasted a day. I had several trips of average to every three hours -- day and night! Thus my sleep pattern was off kilter, and was greatly fatigued. Ever so fortunate, I did make a 'miraculous' recovery. Lasted just over 24 hour period. Thanks! Any thoughts? |
Sato--there is some kind of virus/flu bug going around where I live....same scenario...throwing up,,,bathroom trips and fever....for about 24 hours, then some have complained of sore throat and tiredness for a few days,,,friend at vet had it and said a lot of clients that came in all week had it, some of my family members have it as well,,,so no christmas visit until they are well....hope you feel well soon, My bosses daughter got it two days before Christmas and they took her to the dr. said it was flu ,,test came back positive but was a strain the flu shot this year did not cover... |
Sato, sounds like you came down with norovirus.......a viral, not bacterial case of gastroenteritis. It is very common right now. A trip to the ER would be near useless unless you were severely dehydrated as there is not "antibiotic" that will cure it. Antibiotics work on bacteria, not virus. "The CDC has warned the public that the Sydney strain of the norovirus is so strong this year that even hand sanitizers and some cleaning products are not enough to kill it. Doctors (say)that although it normally takes about 1,000 flu particles to make a person sick, with the Sydney strain, it only takes about 18 particles. In Connecticut, doctors at Saint Francis Hospital have seen an increase in patients coming to the emergency room with the norovirus. Even a few of the University of Georgia football players have come down with the norovirus, three days before their big game at the Gator Bowl. Norovirus and Stomach Flu: The Good News The good news with gastroenteritis is that it generally goes away on its own, especially if it is caused by a virus. Jason Dees, DO, a family physician in New Albany, Miss., and a member of the board of director of the American Academy of Family Physicians tells WebMD, ” The nice thing about the GI tact is, most of the time the body is able to care for it. The body is trying to wash out the infection or irritation and return your GI tract to its happy state. When it’s trying to do that, you have to be nice to your body and give it hydration to do that.” Just watch out for sports drinks that can contain too much salt or sugar – sometimes natural remedies for stomach flu are less stressful to your body. Generally within 24 to 48 hours, symptoms begins to subside, and within three to five days, your gastrointestinal tract begins to return to normal. Prevent Stomach Flu – and Most Viruses Preventing gastroenteritis is better than trying to treat it. Although it’s not always possible, there are some steps you can take to minimize your chances of catching the stomach flu – or even the swine flu – this year. Wash your hands before eating and after using the bathroom. Don’t forget to get plenty of rest, as well. If you do get sick, stay home -these few small steps can do a lot for you, and also help prevent the spread of the illness to others. |
I made a new batch of split pea soup with Christmas ham leftovers. It was delightful. I had not made it in years. That night was a gastrointestinal nightmare. I was up every 2hrs with explosive gas mixed with excrement. I considered the cause and in the evaluation I had to include 4 beers. Three days later, I was in the mood for more split pea and ham soup and I indulged at half the portion of the previous consumption. Fortunately the urge for split pea hit at noon and there was no doubt the cause of incredible flatulence, no beer involved, the only culprit was the split pea! It tasted so good, I bought Beano in hopes I could enjoy another bowl of split pea and ham without the side effects. |
I’ve grown up eating split peas soup or dhal and never had any issues. but recently and as recent as today, I’ve had extreme gas, bloating, belly ache and lots of runnings. I won’t be eating it for a while until I sort out this excessive bloating. |
OES Mommy wrote: Can aanyone tell me if this soup gives you a upset tummy? I made some last week, and I have had more gas than I can handle I am prone to food causeing this and am scard to try it again. It has taken me 5 days to get back to normal with meds. I love this soup too. I put ham, carrots and potato in it. Great on a cold day. Thanks, Deana Oh dear. So much for my favourite soup! It is hard to be delicate about this but I was awakened by a rather odiferous aroma! I was blaming a poor little raccoon or whatever of the small animals that gather around my condominium garbage area. I have had it many times before but not around dinner time. So much for pea soup - now it will be cream of tomato. Older and wiser!! Jean. |
Jesn wrote: OES Mommy wrote: Can aanyone tell me if this soup gives you a upset tummy? I made some last week, and I have had more gas than I can handle I am prone to food causeing this and am scard to try it again. It has taken me 5 days to get back to normal with meds. I love this soup too. I put ham, carrots and potato in it. Great on a cold day. Thanks, Deana Oh dear. So much for my favourite soup! It is hard to be delicate about this but I was awakened by a rather odiferous aroma! I was blaming a poor little raccoon or whatever of the small animals that gather around my condominium garbage area. I have had it many times before but not around dinner time. So much for pea soup - now it will be cream of tomato. Older and wiser!! Jean. Enjoy a little split pea soup at a time. It has lots of fiber in it that can cause gas. So the more you eat all of a sudden at one time, the more you can create. My mother and my wife both liked to mix split pea soup with chicken noodle soup so that a single serving has just half a serving of split pea. Good luck! |
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