Poop and throwup problems
Need some advice. Farley who us probably about 8-9 has been having an accident in the house almost monthly. Only once a month - he will throw up and some times he poops a mess. This has happened since August when we rescued him. Otherwise he eats fine (only dry Iams kibble) is regular with pooping pretty much twice a day on walks. When this happened again last month in December he went to the vet for a physical again. Blood work, fecal test, etc. No worms, no problems found with the liver or kidneys, etc. They say he looks good. He was fine until a couple days ago, my wife came home and he had pooped (solid) and as she was cleaning it up he threw up bile in the basement. I assume he was constipated. A pepto tablet and a Metronydazol and he is normally better. Well tonight he wanted to go out in the middle of the night for a walk. He pooped about 5 formed ones and then had the squirts again and as we walked further he stopped and threw up his kibble from dinner. Just kind of at a loss here, plan to call the vet again in the morning - anyone had anything like this before? I've got to get a handle on the monthly accidents and make sure he is ok. (And we checked it doesn't happen around his heartworm pill - so I don't think that is a cause). I forgot to add, he only gets the Iamms Kibble. No table scraps, cookies, nothing extra as i've found where bread didn't sit well and was thrown up later in the past. Thanks, Kory |
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| Does Metronidazole clear it up for a bit and then the vomiting and diarrhea return? We had something that was going around the pack a few years ago. We did several cultures (only showed high bacteria levels, never giardia) and treated with Metronidazole and anti-diarrhea meds. It would go away, come back, go away, come back, etc. This happened for several months. Panacur fixed of the problem.
You might ask the vet it it would hurt to do 3 consecutive doses of Panacur... |
| I don't think it's parasites or bacterial infection because he's only doing it occasionally. Throwing up bile usually just means an empty stomach, maybe you could feed him more frequently in smaller amount to make sure he can digest it ok? Also, maybe watch his water intake, make sure he has enough....
Sometimes if they have had to hold it too long it does that, going from formed stools to loose, maybe he needs to go out more often? |
| Normally one Metro and one pepto and he is good as new. Takes him about 2 days to get poop going again and then it is just a matter of waiting till the next month for him to have an accident. |
| That's very true about the bile... some dogs need a treat to tide them over 'til meal time or they'll vomit bile.
You had mentioned he vomited his kibble last night. When you give the Metronidazole, do you give just one pill or is it for a prescribed number of days? Just wondering if the prescribed med is used long enough to fix the problem it was prescribed for. |
| Normally just a dose or two and he is back to normal - no more loose stool. I'll give chicken and rice for a day or so. Normally he is anxious to get back to his kibble. |
| Frank had intermittent bowel issues and some infrequent vomitting. He ultimately was diagnosed with Inflammatory Bowel Disease which can be determined by checking the Eosinophils level in the blood. We treat Frank feeding him Purina HA (prescription) which has done wonders.
Here are the symptoms: The most common signs of inflammatory bowel disease in both dogs and cats are diarrhea and vomiting. The signs may vary depending upon the portion of the gastrointestinal involved, i.e., vomiting is more common when the stomach and upper portion of the small intestine are involved and diarrhea is more common when the colon is involved. There is an increase in the frequency of defecation, but less stool produced each time. There is often increased mucous or some blood in the stool. Sometimes stools become loose. Many times the diarrhea and vomiting may be intermittent (comes and goes). If severe, some animals become depressed, will not eat, have a fever, and lose weight. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... 90&aid=305 Each case is different butI think it goes undiagnosed a lot. We did not have any blood or mucous in the stools. |
| Also ask about pancreatic issues |
| Spoke to my vet today who reviewed his blood work again and said everything looked good, kidney, pancreas, liver. He didn't think it was food type as it only happens every 30-40 days each time. He felt the Flora and Forma? are off in the GI track and he wants me to try a Pepcid AC 10mg once a day. |
6Girls wrote: That's very true about the bile... some dogs need a treat to tide them over 'til meal time or they'll vomit bile.
You had mentioned he vomited his kibble last night. When you give the Metronidazole, do you give just one pill or is it for a prescribed number of days? Just wondering if the prescribed med is used long enough to fix the problem it was prescribed for. Just read this, good point... Metronidazole is an intestinal antibiotic and like all other antibiotics you have to finish the full course. Good Luck! |
| The antibiotics can mess up the gut flora too.
You might ask about also adding a doggie probiotic... |
| Have you considered a food allery? Miley was having strange tummy issues we could never figure out and there never seemed to be a pattern. After reading so many posts about allergies I talked my vet into running an allergy panel. Turned out she was allergic to both chicken and lamb - both ingredients in all the foods we tried.
I could tell the way my vet was discussing the cost of the panel - she did not think it would show anything. But I wanted to be sure and figured my piece of mind was worth the price of the test. Switching to the right food (something she is not allergic to) solved most of her issues. |
| The GI tract makes regular, rythmic movements to propel food through. Sometimes the movement is too fast and water doesn't have a chance to be reabsorbed - that's diarrhea. And sometimes the movement is overactive enough that you get diarrhea and vomiting.
It doesn't take much - a change in water, a snack, a bite of table food - to cause the problem in a susceptable dog. Riley will throw up if it has been too long between breakfast and dinner. She has to have a couple of cookies at bedtime. Bailey has never thrown up, even as a puppy. When ben throws up, it means he is obstructed and needs surgery. Seriously. |
Hi, I had a similar problem with my dog, she is about a year old. I've solved it so far, fingers crossed, by feeding her a can of quality dog meat first thing in the morning. I found that she just needed more food than my other dogs. I was wrong in assuming they would all need the same type and amount of food every day. I leave her biscuits available for her to eat as she pleases and plenty of water. She also drinks double the amount than the others. Maybe he just needs a change of food and feeding times to match his changing age.  |
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