Pissed at Annie
 She has been really good for about a week and then she just gets snappy. Steve has no patience anymore with this behavior esp with knowing a baby is on the way. |
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| are you working with someone on this issue? |
kerry wrote: are you working with someone on this issue?
Annie's 11.5 years old. We try other things to curb her snapping, i.e. giving her toys and slippers to walk around with. However, it doesn't work 100%. If there's any food involved, she's just terrible. |
| well no food anywhere is probably your only option.
a dog of that advanced age can get moody. she needs to be isolated when you have those exciting snow ball treats available  |
| I know it's not nice behavior, but I feel kind of sorry for her with the pregnancy and associated upheavals that are only going to get worse. At 11.5 you probably won't have her much longer anyway. She's too old and crabby to be rehomed. Realistically your only options are manage her better or put her down before the kid is born.
Kristine |
| I have that problem with Bella. She is difficult to begin with. I take them out seperately because outside winds her up too much...unless we are on a long walk with leashes.
I make Bella lay down and wait until Nigel has his cookie before she gets hers...and I make her do a few tricks so she won't notice so much. |
Mad Dog wrote: I know it's not nice behavior, but I feel kind of sorry for her with the pregnancy and associated upheavals that are only going to get worse. At 11.5 you probably won't have her much longer anyway. She's too old and crabby to be rehomed. Realistically your only options are manage her better or put her down before the kid is born.
Kristine Annie's always been like this since day one with kids and other dogs. There's absolutely NO WAY she will be put down unless she becomes aggressive with people and baby. The only rehoming will be Grandma's place so we insure so that she'll get the love she so deserves. The girl's got a great life despite another dog and baby coming. |
| What happens if she snaps at Fozzie and you guys don't intervene? Will they fight to the death or is it intense for a few seconds and then stops? I've never seen two opposite sexed dogs go at it like crazy like I've seen two same sex dogs so I'm just curious. |
ButtersStotch wrote: I've never seen two opposite sexed dogs go at it like crazy like I've seen two same sex dogs so I'm just curious.
My two used to - male vs female. female always "won" |
Stacy wrote: There's absolutely NO WAY she will be put down unless she becomes aggressive with people and baby. The only rehoming will be Grandma's place so we insure so that she'll get the love she so deserves.
So I guess you're not quite as pissed at her as you thought? 
Kristine  |
I'm just sorry you have the added stress. One thing I've seen is, sometimes dogs will act different towards kids in their own home than other kids outside the home. One example is my mil's dog. She HATES kids. HATES them, but the second grandchildren started to come in the picture, she would freak any time she heard the baby cry and want to sleep right next to the baby. She only accepts children within the family. I have my fingers crossed that's what happens with Annie although I imagine she won't be too excited about a toddler grabbing on her. The good thing I always say about a baby and a dog is... you've got at LEAST 6 months before your kid starts crawling ...and they're still manageable then... ...and there doesn't have to be any situations where the baby needs to crawl on her. So Annie has time to adjust to the baby being there and realizing how upset her masters will be if this baby isn't respected (not that this should be taken for granted either).  |
ButtersStotch wrote: What happens if she snaps at Fozzie and you guys don't intervene? Will they fight to the death or is it intense for a few seconds and then stops? I've never seen two opposite sexed dogs go at it like crazy like I've seen two same sex dogs so I'm just curious. It's quite pathetic really. There is no fighting, just Annie snapping. If Foz can't jump out of the way or spin around to give the butt in time, he just falls back and makes whining crying noises so that Annie stops after the 1 or 2 snaps. Once he can get out of the way he stands back and barks at her. Then sometimes Annie picks up a toy and they play tug. Quote: So I guess you're not quite as pissed at her as you thought?
Kristine Nope, I guess not. |
Stacy wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: What happens if she snaps at Fozzie and you guys don't intervene? Will they fight to the death or is it intense for a few seconds and then stops? I've never seen two opposite sexed dogs go at it like crazy like I've seen two same sex dogs so I'm just curious. It's quite pathetic really. There is no fighting, just Annie snapping. If Foz can't jump out of the way or spin around to give the butt in time, he just falls back and makes whining crying noises so that Annie stops after the 1 or 2 snaps. Once he can get out of the way he stands back and barks at her. Then sometimes Annie picks up a toy and they play tug. so why did your husband get bit? sounds pretty tame to me. |
kerry wrote: Stacy wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: What happens if she snaps at Fozzie and you guys don't intervene? Will they fight to the death or is it intense for a few seconds and then stops? I've never seen two opposite sexed dogs go at it like crazy like I've seen two same sex dogs so I'm just curious. It's quite pathetic really. There is no fighting, just Annie snapping. If Foz can't jump out of the way or spin around to give the butt in time, he just falls back and makes whining crying noises so that Annie stops after the 1 or 2 snaps. Once he can get out of the way he stands back and barks at her. Then sometimes Annie picks up a toy and they play tug. so why did your husband get bit? sounds pretty tame to me. Yeah, that's why I asked about intervening. If that's all it is, I'd walk away and let them work it out on their own. Definitely don't get involved unless you think one of the dogs is going to be severely hurt. It's not worth getting possibly bit if it's just a couple of snaps and that's it. It's never pleasant to watch but it's sometimes safer to just stay out of it. |
Sorry, Steve wasn't getting involved in the scuffle but he was in the middle of it. Steve was reaching under Fozzie's neck to detach his raincoat. At the same time, Annie walked towards Foz and must have thought Foz was going to reach down to pick up a snowball. Annie snapped and Steve's hand was right there. Annie bit Steve's hand instead of Fozzie's cute snout 
We have only gotten involved with a fight a handful of times. It's primarily been reactive to Annie pinning Foz on his back or against a wall/cabinet. We've grabbed her collar and pulled up. Usually when you call Annie's name and bring her back to reality she realizes what she's doing. So, really this wasn't so bad, but we were just pissed this morning about the whole thing. Trying to get out of the house and all. Steve bandaged up his finger and drove to work for 3 hours in a snow storm. |
| Yeah, this godawful weather isn't helping any, is it?
Her eyesight may be going. The older they get, the more their senses diminish, just like us. Maybe consider some bifocals so she can improve her Fozzie aim a bit? The lenses can be placed in goggles and she'll be like a new dog and only bite what she aims for
Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: Yeah, this godawful weather isn't helping any, is it?
Her eyesight may be going. The older they get, the more their senses diminish, just like us. Maybe consider some bifocals so she can improve her Fozzie aim a bit? The lenses can be placed in goggles and she'll be like a new dog and only bite what she aims for Kristine If I'm going to be exasperated with my two its usually mornings when I'm rushing to get away on time. Kristine my cat says you absolutely have to stop coming up with such evil ideas. He reckons he'll have no fur left if Tiggy gets a better aim.  |
| I had the problem between female (mom) and male ( her son). She was making him a coward - he was afraid to enter a room when she was next to her bowl. So I started to give a treat to him first, then to her- to show her that they are getting equal in the pack. It helped. He started to put his paws on her and even to bite her slightly. He actually teases her deliberately now to make her chasing him. Keeping them in full coat helps because they only bite each other on the coat and it is more a play then a fight unless he gets at her too much. |
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