Anyone watch Jon and Kate Plus 8
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| I always catch reruns and feel better about dealing w/our load!!!!!!!!!!! |
| I watch it! I love it. I know there are some out there who HATE the show, but I think it's fun. Seriously, you should read some of the malicious comments written about this show. And it's mostly from moms, which is sad because they are going to pass their judgment on to their children... |
| I watch it occasionally.
However, you need to talk with LeAnne - she is addicted too!!!!  |
I'm an addict!!! Bought the book, read all the blogs  |
I have been watching off and on ........and I think I'm becoming addicted  haven't seen the blogs !?!....and didn't know there was a book !?! I have to check that out  |
| Mr. J was watching the Early Show and he saw Kate's brother (or someone's brother... he's not good w/details) ...come on there and say to do this present season, Jon DEMANDED that Kate sign something saying he can date and have gfs if he wants. He recorded the interview, but I haven't had a chance to see it yet.
Such a shame. I understand and get both sides. For him, it must be pretty dang hard to raise 8 kids whlie she's out promoting/speaking at what this old fashion conservative sees as too many unnecessary things as they make enough already just from the show considering you have an outwardly spoken husband who is unhappy. Then there's the fact that he's said for a few seasons now that he didn't want to do it but has been pushed from everything I've read from their own mouths from Kate since she is obsessed with it. Some guys just can't handle that. My husband can't handle 2 hrs alone with ours sometimes, and I KNOW he'd lose it if it was full time. Then on the otherhand, I totally feel for Kate. It seems to me in interviews that she does want to work it out and do whatever she can ...but while she says she will do whatever ...he flat out says I'm only here for the children. I watched it 3 times to be sure. I don't care if he didn't "cheat" in his eyes as he says, partying with a bunch of college girls and getting a ride from one ...and being seen with her past that night... would get my husband a hotel room and new lock on our door. |
| I have a hard time believing the brother/sister in-law reports. Don't know why, but I just do. Maybe I'm naive, though. But seeing how estranged they are from each other, then how would they know that private info?
I think they just got in way over their head. Jon said something in one of his interviews that he was married at 22, twins at 23, sextuplets at 27...that's a pretty crazy thing to happen. It's not like they were the Duggars and hoping to have as many children as possible. They just wanted 1 more. So that's a lot to handle (not that it's an excuse for anything). |
| Wow, never saw this coming. Yeah, right. Classic I-told-you-so moment. people can't have litters and expect to have a normal life-- media circus or no media circus. |
| My husband said he saw it coming right after the 1st season. ...just little things to him like going from lovey dovey on the couch to always sitting apart (something I don't view the same way), and the fact they've got the reality tv curse. Funny b/c the only long term reality tv series couple who still seems to be together are the osbournes. |
| I have watched a few episodes.... saw the season premiere the other day and was a little surprised but Kate used to drive me nuts and now she doesn't. Shrug |
| I am more on her side. My husband more on his. We both think a certain gender was being more selfish than the other. |
| I am on the flip side of the fence from all of you...
I don't trust her-- don't believe her... and think she is a shrew. They have BOTH used these kids as support for their family. She calls herself a SAHM but was gone 40 out of 50 days promoting a book that her "friend" wrote. And-- during that time, Jon was home with the kids. If you watch the episodes - he is the better parent when it comes to showing affection. I believe Jodi and Kevin... Kate is the one that wants out and is playing a victim... And to add to this... we know someone who believes these kids are in a world of trouble..... and sees it daily. Teacher try to help you know.  |
| No, my husband would definitely be on your side but definitely doesn't see THAT or the accumulation over the years as a reason to do what he did.
I just have a warmer heart for her b/c I don't see her as much of a female dog as others do. If I were to be filmed, they would so eventually catch me EXPLODING on my kids from MY stress ...not necessarily for the severity of what they did/did not do ...and for having 8 kids, she is a supermom. Again, Mr J made it a point to say he flat out does not see her as one. I just think he would think differently if he was the SAHM ...and added more kids/stress/plus the public eye to the mix. I do blame her for continuing this longer than her family could handle, and do think she is selfish for going out more than necessary to speak when she had family problems. |
| Although I think she's probably glad to escape to do her book tour. Since she primarily stayed home with the 6 for the first few years of their lives, she's probably tired and feels she 'deserves' this break. But bad timing for sure.
I don't know whose side I'm on. I feel bad for Jon b/c having that many kids is hard and having a wife like Kate on top of it isn't easy. But then I feel bad for Kate for having to deal with so many kids that makes her the way she is (controlling, etc), but you kind of HAVE to be to maitain control of that many kids. It's funny...the more kids my friends have, the more they sympathize/empathize with Kate...my friends without as many kids see her more shrew-like. |
barney1 wrote: Although I think she's probably glad to escape to do her book tour. Since she primarily stayed home with the 6 for the first few years of their lives, she's probably tired and feels she 'deserves' this break. But bad timing for sure.
I don't know whose side I'm on. I feel bad for Jon b/c having that many kids is hard and having a wife like Kate on top of it isn't easy. But then I feel bad for Kate for having to deal with so many kids that makes her the way she is (controlling, etc), but you kind of HAVE to be to maitain control of that many kids. It's funny...the more kids my friends have, the more they sympathize/empathize with Kate...my friends without as many kids see her more shrew-like. I, quite fairly, think they're both idiots equally. |
| It's not like she didn't choose to have that many kids.... |
| I've only watched this show a couple of times and the way Kate talked to Jon was so disrespectful..many times it wasn't in what she said but how she said it...I chose not to watch her anymore.
I feel sad for the children that their parents are now in this situation. |
| I just read that the brother and sister in law have been asking lots of $$ to appear on all these shows talking about how J&K sold their family out--ummm, they are earning money to sell out THEIR family. Nice work. |
ButtersStotch wrote: Wow, never saw this coming. Yeah, right. Classic I-told-you-so moment. people can't have litters and expect to have a normal life-- media circus or no media circus.
**chuckle** |
barney1 wrote: I just read that the brother and sister in law have been asking lots of $$ to appear on all these shows talking about how J&K sold their family out--ummm, they are earning money to sell out THEIR family. Nice work.
I'm not so sure... I still hold that that they want to see this madness end. But I do agree with Jill-- they are both idiots who wanted to play with the big dogs. Problem is -- they have no brains and no class.... Again, I feel sorry for the kids. I really do. |
Abuckie wrote: barney1 wrote: I just read that the brother and sister in law have been asking lots of $$ to appear on all these shows talking about how J&K sold their family out--ummm, they are earning money to sell out THEIR family. Nice work. I'm not so sure... I still hold that that they want to see this madness end. But I do agree with Jill-- they are both idiots who wanted to play with the big dogs. Problem is -- they have no brains and no class.... Again, I feel sorry for the kids. I really do. I don't think it has anything to do with brains or class. It has everything to do with making poor decisions when they were too young to really make them. I don't think their intention was anymore than "Let's have babies! Lots of babies!" Then they came and, holy crap, they're a lot of work, money and strain on a young couple under 30. There's a reason why people don't have six children at once in nature-- it's insane and unrealistic. I don't think there's any reason to feel sorry for the kids. They're well taken care of and won't want for anything. the parents love them despite how the media portrays it. Again, do they make the decisions? Probably not but, ultimately, those kids are in good hands. The show doesn't film 24-7 so they have some privacy. No family exists without a certain level of dysfunction so there's really no reason to hold them to any higher standard-- the only difference is that they went ahead and put it on TV in a mildly entertaining package. That being said, I still think they're idiots. |
ButtersStotch wrote: Abuckie wrote: barney1 wrote: I just read that the brother and sister in law have been asking lots of $$ to appear on all these shows talking about how J&K sold their family out--ummm, they are earning money to sell out THEIR family. Nice work. I'm not so sure... I still hold that that they want to see this madness end. But I do agree with Jill-- they are both idiots who wanted to play with the big dogs. Problem is -- they have no brains and no class.... Again, I feel sorry for the kids. I really do. I don't think it has anything to do with brains or class. It has everything to do with making poor decisions when they were too young to really make them. I don't think their intention was anymore than "Let's have babies! Lots of babies!" Then they came and, holy crap, they're a lot of work, money and strain on a young couple under 30. There's a reason why people don't have six children at once in nature-- it's insane and unrealistic. I don't think there's any reason to feel sorry for the kids. They're well taken care of and won't want for anything. the parents love them despite how the media portrays it. Again, do they make the decisions? Probably not but, ultimately, those kids are in good hands. The show doesn't film 24-7 so they have some privacy. No family exists without a certain level of dysfunction so there's really no reason to hold them to any higher standard-- the only difference is that they went ahead and put it on TV in a mildly entertaining package. That being said, I still think they're idiots. Sorry -- I think we have to agree to disagree on this one. It is not a normal atmosphere to have cameras and mics shoved in the face of a kid on a continual basis. Not wanting for material things doesn't always make a well rounded adult. And brains do play a part in decision making skills and seemingly the don't make good choices. And-- I think that class also comes into play. There are several things that have been done by them that show they have no class... I do not mean that to sound hoytie - toytie-- or snobbish. But- I think any parent that allows their child to be filmed in the bathroom, and then shows the poop-- has no class. Possibly I am looking for another word, but that is what always comes to mind. |
| Normal is a pretty subjective term, though. Having cameras around all the time isn't normal to us but it certainly is to them. It's all they know! I don't think it's just about having material things, they have two parents who love them. That's so much more than so many kids can say. I don't think there's any formula for what will make a balanced adult since there really isn't another family just like them to benchmark from.
Did I mention that all that aside, I still think they're idiots? |
| I didn't know this, but I was surprised to hear they're only filmed twice a week which to me is still a lot. The third day is only interviews. I think the fame and all that comes with it has to effect them in some way ...good or bad. |
Joahaeyo wrote: I didn't know this, but I was surprised to hear they're only filmed twice a week which to me is still a lot. The third day is only interviews. I think the fame and all that comes with it has to effect them in some way ...good or bad.
They film two days a week, but they are Jon and Kate Plus 8 everyday... Their parents dirty laundry is spread across every tabloid and magazine in the country. That has to effect them in some way. They would have to be living under a rock to not see some of these publications. I may be overly sensitve to this subject, because we have had a similar situation. Not to the extent on the Gosselins by any means, but, on a smaller scale --very much the same. My cousins, my Mom's younger brothers kids, had their time of fame 25 or so years ago. The were very talented musicians , and as young children, were in a band with two others. It was a Bluegrass band-- (which I hate, but loved them, so..... )
They did small things here and there, and everyone that heard them said " These kids are going places" . One cousin played the banjo, and was 10 when the band started. The other was 7 and played the bass. They were talented, played to the crowd and were adorable. At that time, they were normal kids, who would preform on the weekends at small fairs and concerts. As luck would have it, Barbara Mandrell saw them, fell in love, and took them under her wing. They opened for her at the State fair, and they were on her TV show in the 80's. I hesitate to tell the whole story on here, since we are not in members only. I would be glad to enlighten anyone that cares, and give the name of the band, which you can find on YouTube. What I will say is - the wheels fell off of the apple cart. What could have been a road to fame and fortune turned into greed, gossip and heartache for all of the families concerned. My cousins were robbed of a "normal" childhood, and have paid the price. They were middle class people, who were thrown in the limelight and got star struck. Not the kids, but the adults. The kids began to resent having to be "on" all of the time. When the rest of us were out in the crowd, having a good time, they were being dressed and fluffed and prompted. The Gosselin kids get this a million times over. They may film twice a week- but they are also on Oprah, The Today Show, GMA... and have to travel a distance to get there. My cousins were loved by both parents, well taken care of - all of the things that "matter". BUT-- as I said - major issues then, and later. In long talks with both of them, we learned about what you don't see as the finished product. Normal may be subjective, but, there are still fundmentals that should be a common denominator in children's upbringing. I don't know the Gosselins. We do know someone who knows them, and so I think I have followed the drama more, because of that fact. They were my entertainment on Monday's for a couple of years. I do think the children are adorable, and I still feel sorry for them. Being drug all over the place isn't always what kids need to be cultured. I know from family experience, there is an effect on kids that are put in the limelight. Throw in a set of "idiot" parents that make bad choices, and history shows, it could be a recipe for disaster. |
| They didn't WANT to have babies, babies, babies. Kate has a medical condition that made it hard to have children, so she used fertility treatment. She and I have the same condition. Anyway, they only had twins the first time around, and she wanted 1 more baby but acknowledged it could be twins again, maybe even 3. So the fact that it was 6 wasn't intended, and they chose not to reduce.
Before they got 'famous' I don't think anyone would have minded them filming them twice a week...still plenty of 'off' time. Since for whatever reason they DID get more famous and are recognized when they go out, that's the problem. I don't think they're idiots. They saw opportunity. They were struggling and this opportunity came up and they took it. From then on I think they got in over their heads and have made poor choices about priorities maybe, but I don't think they're bad for what they've done. |
barney1 wrote: They didn't WANT to have babies, babies, babies. Kate has a medical condition that made it hard to have children, so she used fertility treatment. She and I have the same condition. Anyway, they only had twins the first time around, and she wanted 1 more baby but acknowledged it could be twins again, maybe even 3. So the fact that it was 6 wasn't intended, and they chose not to reduce.
Before they got 'famous' I don't think anyone would have minded them filming them twice a week...still plenty of 'off' time. Since for whatever reason they DID get more famous and are recognized when they go out, that's the problem. I don't think they're idiots. They saw opportunity. They were struggling and this opportunity came up and they took it. From then on I think they got in over their heads and have made poor choices about priorities maybe, but I don't think they're bad for what they've done. We're of the same mind on this one. |
barney1 wrote: They didn't WANT to have babies, babies, babies. Kate has a medical condition that made it hard to have children, so she used fertility treatment. She and I have the same condition. Anyway, they only had twins the first time around, and she wanted 1 more baby but acknowledged it could be twins again, maybe even 3. So the fact that it was 6 wasn't intended, and they chose not to reduce.
No, I'm sorry, I was being facetious in that their intention was to multiply endlessly. I do think the simple choice of having the litter was the poor one but I also think this conversation can start getting weird if we start going that angle so I think I'm going to stop on that note. |
ButtersStotch wrote: barney1 wrote: They didn't WANT to have babies, babies, babies. Kate has a medical condition that made it hard to have children, so she used fertility treatment. She and I have the same condition. Anyway, they only had twins the first time around, and she wanted 1 more baby but acknowledged it could be twins again, maybe even 3. So the fact that it was 6 wasn't intended, and they chose not to reduce. No, I'm sorry, I was being facetious in that their intention was to multiply endlessly. I do think the simple choice of having the litter was the poor one but I also think this conversation can start getting weird if we start going that angle so I think I'm going to stop on that note. Yeah, I didn't want to go any further on that part of it either. I was just of the mindset that they didn't set out (like a certain octomom) to have lots of babies)...but they got them. Oh, and has everyone seen that there is a new show on WE about the Masche sextuplets? How many people need to have shows about their millions of kids? I liked J&K b/c it was new and interesting to see how they coped with their life. Anyone beyond that I don't care... |
barney1 wrote: I don't think they're idiots. They saw opportunity.
Hmmm.... Opportunistic idiots.  |
ButtersStotch wrote: Did I mention that all that aside, I still think they're idiots? barney1 wrote: I don't think they're idiots. They saw opportunity. Maggie McGee IV wrote: Hmmm.... Opportunistic idiots. :popcorn: |
Ron wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: Did I mention that all that aside, I still think they're idiots? barney1 wrote: I don't think they're idiots. They saw opportunity. Maggie McGee IV wrote: Hmmm.... Opportunistic idiots. :popcorn: |
Ron wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: Did I mention that all that aside, I still think they're idiots? barney1 wrote: I don't think they're idiots. They saw opportunity. Maggie McGee IV wrote: Hmmm.... Opportunistic idiots. :popcorn:and the plot thickens...... Pa. Dept of Labor probing 'Jon & Kate' complaint May 29, 2009, 12:27 PM EST WERNERSVILLE, Pa. (AP) -- Jon, Kate and their eight children have attracted a huge TV audience, screaming tabloid headlines and, now, a state labor investigation. The Pennsylvania Department of Labor says it's looking into whether the hit reality show "Jon & Kate Plus 8" is complying with child labor laws. The TLC series follows Jon and Kate Gosselin as they raise their eight young children, including 8-year-old twins and sextuplets who just turned 5. The show drew nearly 10 million viewers for its fifth-season premiere Monday following reports of trouble in the Gosselins' marriage. Labor Department spokesman Justin Fleming tells The Associated Press that the department is looking into a complaint against the show. TLC says it "fully complies" with state laws and regulations.  |
| The DOL legally HAS to investigate any claim brought to their attention of illegal child labor, whether it is founded or not. You could call them and tell them my company has children working and they'd have to investigate. It's the law - and someone is taking advantage of it just to add to the pile of drama.
If J&K are violating child labor laws with their show, just think of what the Duggars, Octomom, and all those parents in that horror show "Toddlers and Tiaras" are going to face. |
| There were 100s of claims made when that reality show came out where kids as young as 9 ran a village (from scratch and w/nothing modern) ...and no parents or adults. But I'm sure the network had their butts covered.
...and I'm sure nothing will come of this. Just reading that makes me throw out a disgusted face. I really think it's stupid and made by over zealous people w/too much time on their hands. |
There really is too much "to do" over this. It seems everyone forgets, it's just a TV show.  |
| Oh it just sickened me to know he can't just live out this season, that we can argue that they shouldn't have even done, but he had to go visit his 23 yo mistress on Kate's bday. I so want something to work out as she may say she has no idea on the status of their relationship, but he obviously does. I wouldn't doubt if she has her line up as well of which celebrity she wants to date ...........and her 8 kids. Brad Pitt may be on the market soon. |
| And did you hear the ASPCA or Human Society or something like that wanted to investigate b/c Jon said something about how his kids abuse their 2 dogs... |
Joahaeyo wrote: Oh it just sickened me to know he can't just live out this season, that we can argue that they shouldn't have even done, but he had to go visit his 23 yo mistress on Kate's bday. I so want something to work out as she may say she has no idea on the status of their relationship, but he obviously does.
I wouldn't doubt if she has her line up as well of which celebrity she wants to date ...........and her 8 kids. Brad Pitt may be on the market soon.I still don't like her. At all. At all. At all. He is making horribel mistakes, but she is a shrew. I think he is a more loving parent, but, they are both nuts. |
Joahaeyo wrote: Oh it just sickened me to know he can't just live out this season, that we can argue that they shouldn't have even done, but he had to go visit his 23 yo mistress on Kate's bday. I so want something to work out as she may say she has no idea on the status of their relationship, but he obviously does.
I wouldn't doubt if she has her line up as well of which celebrity she wants to date ...........and her 8 kids. Brad Pitt may be on the market soon.IMO, "the season" has nothing to do with it - he needs to either divorce her or honor his marriage. Regardless of what is going on, he's responsible for his choices, period. She didn't drive him to anybody else, he chose to go there. If he was unhappy in his situation, he should have rectified THAT and then moved on to someone else. I'll agree to disagree with others but regarding their opinions of her. IMO, she's not a shrew or any other of the names she's been called. She's a strong, aggressive woman who gets the job done. If she was a man she would command respect, and at work would be promoted often. Because she is a woman she is a "___". She has snapped at him as he has her, but she's not verbally abusing him at all. She displays aggressive behavior and people don't like it - he displays (extra-ordinary) passive-aggressive behavior and people assume he's a wimp because they don't HEAR his aggressiveness. Psych 101, TYVM. |
| The whole spanking thing which was one smack on the butt cracks me up. Reaaaaallly? I'm shocked she's been so good for so many episodes as it is w/o whacking her kids. I also don't agree with all these specialists chiming in that she did it b/c she was over stressed. Over stressed to me is non stop beating/spanking, and it was a light tap!!!!!!!!! I whack my kids for any serious offense or if the time out needs to be taken to the next level. |
| Ok it's official. They are separating, and most likely, divorcing. I feel terrible for those kids. Bad enough they are on a reality show, but now this. Poor babies. Question for the oldies (myself included)...does anyone remember a PBS show from the seventies, probably the first reality show, about the Loud family in California? The family ended up pretty messed up. I think the parents divorced, and I know one of sons come out on the show. Why does anyone subject themselves to that sort of exposure? |
| I don't get why everyone thinks the kids are going to be so messed up. Most people grow up with a certain amount of dysfunction in their lives and almost everyone's parents are divorced. There's no reason why they can't go on to live somewhat normal lives. I think the most damage that these kids are going to endure is hearing everyone say "Oh, my God, they're going to be so messed up," and they'll end up living up to that destiny just because that's what will be drilled into them. |
im from a disfunctional family and i turned out juuuust fine, really..REALLY...did you hear me? i said REALLY  |
Darcy wrote: im from a disfunctional family and i turned out juuuust fine, really..REALLY...did you hear me? i said REALLY
Yea right... BUT was your whole family drama capture on film and did it play out before the whole world, and now as an adult, and you relive every minute of your dysfuntional childhood, with the flick of dvr switch? I think not! |
| Nope. Hers is probably on Super 8. |
Ron wrote: Nope. Hers is probably on Super 8.
Black and white...without sound...and everyone standing around waving at the camera and squinting from the lights! |
debcram wrote: Darcy wrote: im from a disfunctional family and i turned out juuuust fine, really..REALLY...did you hear me? i said REALLY Yea right... BUT was your whole family drama capture on film and did it play out before the whole world, and now as an adult, and you relive every minute of your dysfuntional childhood, with the flick of dvr switch? I think not! No one's going to care about this in a month anyway. They'll never have to look at it unless they just want to wallow in it. Really, they're just detailed home movies with better production values. Not to mention, it's only the last few episodes that chronicle the downturn anyway. All the other stuff, if they choose to watch it, is mostly positive experiences. I'd really like to see people think more about empowering kids to deal with consequences, accept them and leave the past behind rather than it's inevitable that their lives life will be forever plagued from this-- that's the stuff that scars. The more you hear something's so terrible, the more you'll start thinking it is. People are turning the children of today into sniveling little wusses that don't know how to deal with things because they're being so coddled and "protected" from regular life occurrences. Everybody wins! You're all equal! No you're not. Tell that to someone hiring for a job. But, I digress... I can feel sympathetic to the situation but, at the same time, there's no reason why these kids should have long term problems. |
| I agree with ButtersScotch completely. There are several young individuals in my own family, whose "problems" mostly stem from adults assuring them their whole lives that they were somehow cheated of a "normal" life ...whatever THAT means. Besides, in these kid's case...how normal is anybody's childhood going to be when they're a sextuplet??? or even the sibling of... |
| I'm more concerned with the choice of earrings Jon is sporting these days. That would mess me up as a child. |
ButtersStotch wrote: debcram wrote: Darcy wrote: im from a disfunctional family and i turned out juuuust fine, really..REALLY...did you hear me? i said REALLY Yea right... BUT was your whole family drama capture on film and did it play out before the whole world, and now as an adult, and you relive every minute of your dysfuntional childhood, with the flick of dvr switch? I think not! No one's going to care about this in a month anyway. They'll never have to look at it unless they just want to wallow in it. Really, they're just detailed home movies with better production values. Not to mention, it's only the last few episodes that chronicle the downturn anyway. All the other stuff, if they choose to watch it, is mostly positive experiences. I'd really like to see people think more about empowering kids to deal with consequences, accept them and leave the past behind rather than it's inevitable that their lives life will be forever plagued from this-- that's the stuff that scars. The more you hear something's so terrible, the more you'll start thinking it is. People are turning the children of today into sniveling little wusses that don't know how to deal with things because they're being so coddled and "protected" from regular life occurrences. Everybody wins! You're all equal! No you're not. Tell that to someone hiring for a job. But, I digress... I can feel sympathetic to the situation but, at the same time, there's no reason why these kids should have long term problems. thats my point exactly...yes, really i do have a disfunctional family...the difference of course, is that no, it wasnt taped for the world to see..but i also dont make a point of hiding it either...my life mantra is ''suck it up''..the kids will be fine as long as theyre treated as such... if they are treated as poor little misfits, thats what they will grow up to believe.... just to note darcy's disfunctional family... dads mistress's husband dropped mistress off on our front porch in the dead of winter wearing a slutty nightgown...mistresses husband had a shotgun....mom decided to stay...we were little... dad cheats on mom all thru our childhood.. dad leaves mom on our highschool graduation day... dads wife is a yr younger than brian moms husband is 4 yrs older than brian moms husbands youngest child is younger than my youngest nephew i think dad still cheats dad and mom are overwhelmed with both me and lisa together...they play us off of each other and play favorites... this is the lighter side of the disfunction...its totally screwed up...but its my family and i love them...what doesnt kill you. makes you stronger...im sticking to that theory! |
Darcy wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: debcram wrote: Darcy wrote: im from a disfunctional family and i turned out juuuust fine, really..REALLY...did you hear me? i said REALLY Yea right... BUT was your whole family drama capture on film and did it play out before the whole world, and now as an adult, and you relive every minute of your dysfuntional childhood, with the flick of dvr switch? I think not! No one's going to care about this in a month anyway. They'll never have to look at it unless they just want to wallow in it. Really, they're just detailed home movies with better production values. Not to mention, it's only the last few episodes that chronicle the downturn anyway. All the other stuff, if they choose to watch it, is mostly positive experiences. I'd really like to see people think more about empowering kids to deal with consequences, accept them and leave the past behind rather than it's inevitable that their lives life will be forever plagued from this-- that's the stuff that scars. The more you hear something's so terrible, the more you'll start thinking it is. People are turning the children of today into sniveling little wusses that don't know how to deal with things because they're being so coddled and "protected" from regular life occurrences. Everybody wins! You're all equal! No you're not. Tell that to someone hiring for a job. But, I digress... I can feel sympathetic to the situation but, at the same time, there's no reason why these kids should have long term problems. thats my point exactly...yes, really i do have a disfunctional family...the difference of course, is that no, it wasnt taped for the world to see..but i also dont make a point of hiding it either...my life mantra is ''suck it up''..the kids will be fine as long as theyre treated as such... if they are treated as poor little misfits, thats what they will grow up to believe.... just to note darcy's disfunctional family... dads mistress's husband dropped mistress off on our front porch in the dead of winter wearing a slutty nightgown...mistresses husband had a shotgun....mom decided to stay...we were little... dad cheats on mom all thru our childhood.. dad leaves mom on our highschool graduation day... dads wife is a yr younger than brian moms husband is 4 yrs older than brian moms husbands youngest child is younger than my youngest nephew i think dad still cheats dad and mom are overwhelmed with both me and lisa together...they play us off of each other and play favorites... this is the lighter side of the disfunction...its totally screwed up...but its my family and i love them...what doesnt kill you. makes you stronger...im sticking to that theory! Quit complaining so much. |
debcram wrote: Darcy wrote: im from a disfunctional family and i turned out juuuust fine, really..REALLY...did you hear me? i said REALLY Yea right... BUT was your whole family drama capture on film and did it play out before the whole world, and now as an adult, and you relive every minute of your dysfuntional childhood, with the flick of dvr switch? I think not! Deb--I think I am in the minority here, but I totally agree with you. I feel for those little bugs. It infuriates me that they are making money off of them. It really does. AND-- I don't think any one will change my mind about that. Darcy---I agree with Jill-- quit your complainin' 
Really though, I know how it is. You have all heard my stories of John and his families tales of woes... I know that kids are strong -- BUT- to drag yourself above what is holding you down, you need to have some support and good role models. It may be a teacher, or a pastor, or just a friends family. John had that. And he is better for it. From what we hear, those Gosselin kids live in a shoe box and are very sheltered from family and other friends. Anyone Kate can't control, or that isn't associated with the show. I feel for them. |
| who said i was complaining????? i just stated them there facts! |
Darcy wrote: who said i was complaining????? i just stated them there facts!
I stand corrected. |
Darcy wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: debcram wrote: Darcy wrote: im from a disfunctional family and i turned out juuuust fine, really..REALLY...did you hear me? i said REALLY Yea right... BUT was your whole family drama capture on film and did it play out before the whole world, and now as an adult, and you relive every minute of your dysfuntional childhood, with the flick of dvr switch? I think not! No one's going to care about this in a month anyway. They'll never have to look at it unless they just want to wallow in it. Really, they're just detailed home movies with better production values. Not to mention, it's only the last few episodes that chronicle the downturn anyway. All the other stuff, if they choose to watch it, is mostly positive experiences. I'd really like to see people think more about empowering kids to deal with consequences, accept them and leave the past behind rather than it's inevitable that their lives life will be forever plagued from this-- that's the stuff that scars. The more you hear something's so terrible, the more you'll start thinking it is. People are turning the children of today into sniveling little wusses that don't know how to deal with things because they're being so coddled and "protected" from regular life occurrences. Everybody wins! You're all equal! No you're not. Tell that to someone hiring for a job. But, I digress... I can feel sympathetic to the situation but, at the same time, there's no reason why these kids should have long term problems. thats my point exactly...yes, really i do have a disfunctional family...the difference of course, is that no, it wasnt taped for the world to see..but i also dont make a point of hiding it either...my life mantra is ''suck it up''..the kids will be fine as long as theyre treated as such... if they are treated as poor little misfits, thats what they will grow up to believe.... just to note darcy's disfunctional family... dads mistress's husband dropped mistress off on our front porch in the dead of winter wearing a slutty nightgown...mistresses husband had a shotgun....mom decided to stay...we were little... dad cheats on mom all thru our childhood.. dad leaves mom on our highschool graduation day... dads wife is a yr younger than brian moms husband is 4 yrs older than brian moms husbands youngest child is younger than my youngest nephew i think dad still cheats dad and mom are overwhelmed with both me and lisa together...they play us off of each other and play favorites... this is the lighter side of the disfunction...its totally screwed up...but its my family and i love them...what doesnt kill you. makes you stronger...im sticking to that theory! Kinda reminded me of that song..."I Am My Own Grandpa" |
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