Grannie Annie splits a few mats.
http://photos.oes.org/albums/userpics/1 ... -large.wmv This file is about 12MB; you may want to right-click and download to your PC to watch if you have a slower connection. It's about 45 seconds long. I wanted to present it in a reasonable high resolution so you can see what is going on with her magic fingers. |
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| Cool! I wish I had more patience...or maybe I should say, I wish Pirate had more patience with ME! |
| is she actually using a slicker brush? |
kerry wrote: is she actually using a slicker brush?
Lol. I don't think we're dealing with a show dog! I find the slicker easier in some cases but if you're not breaking it up enough, the slicker will just glide on top of the mat. |
| i was just asking - I find the slicker usually just glides anyway - but maybe mine hasn't got enough length in the teeth? |
kerry wrote: is she actually using a slicker brush?
Yup. And so do I. Least annoying method for the dog. You need to do what she did and split the mats with your fingers though. Is that a surprise? And, Jill - I use that method on my showdog too.   She's a coat factory anyway.
Great demo!!! It should be made a post-it or whatever you call that. Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: kerry wrote: is she actually using a slicker brush? Yup. And so do I. Least annoying method for the dog. You need to do what she did and split the mats with your fingers though. Is that a surprise? And, Jill - I use that method on my showdog too. She's a coat factory anyway.Great demo!!! It should be made a post-it or whatever you call that. Kristine I am surprised since I'd worry that the slicker would yank a lot of coat out if it did take hold but that's probably more of a beginner fear anyway. If you know what you're doing, it makes a huge difference. It always amazes me to watch my breeder knock out a perfectly trimmed rear in about 60 seconds. It takes me longer to get a good grip on the scissors! |
ButtersStotch wrote: I am surprised since I'd worry that the slicker would yank a lot of coat out if it did take hold but that's probably more of a beginner fear anyway. If you know what you're doing, it makes a huge difference. It always amazes me to watch my breeder knock out a perfectly trimmed rear in about 60 seconds. It takes me longer to get a good grip on the scissors!
The first X number of years my breeder spent teaching me to groom (in vain ) she wouldn't let me use a slicker except to slicker up their legs. We spent maaaannnny hours on the fine art of line brushing, the proper grip and flick of the wrist blah blah blah. I balded many dogs in the process. Or left them matted anyway (hey! Surface looked good  )
Then I watched her groom, I mean REALLY watched her groom, and realized she predominantly uses a slicker! Evidently they don't tell you this option exists until you get your ten year grooming pin or whatever (i;ve had to repeat a few years - twice - so I think I still have seven to go) Anyway, it helps to have a non show dog you can boldly use as a a test dog. If things really get out of hand you pay someone competent on the sly to fix your mistakes. Sunny says she's learned many grooming techniques thanks to MY screw-ups...
I am proud to say I have cut my scissor picking-upping time down to 30 seconds. I'm permitted to OWN scissors now. Provided they are never within a 10 feet radius of a dog in show coat. 60 second butt trims in my dreams
Kristine |
Ah slickers. Cathy & I buy them by the case & split the case! The important thing is to buy the proper kind of slicker. The hard slickers will take out too much coast unless you really know what you are doing. The softer slickers are the ones used to break up & eliminate the mats. Actually Kristine, I was allowed to have a slicker right off the bat. It took one visit with my first show male (which I really thought was in pretty good condition) to learn very fast how to use the slicker properly on mats! It was either that or my dog was getting shaved! So I learned REALLY quickly. Now scissors were another story. I've had them from about day 180. For years I was told I could do basic trimming (minimal) but leave the show trimming to her. I usually have quite a bit of confidence in myself but not after watching her put a perfect show trim on our dogs. It's been 11 years now & I am just now feeling I can trim a butt decently & possibly get the feet looking like they aren't wearing snowshoes!  Last weekend my friend laughed at me when she showed up to go to the dog show with me! She wanted to know where I got the "Oversized Beardie" and "where was it's tail?!!! Thank goodness she had the guts to start hacking away at all the coat I had grown on this girl! If not, I am sure the judge would have excused me for being in the wrong breed ring! |
| i found a really nice long pined pin brush in a pet shop on holiday, with a rosewood handle that fits in your hand like a glove, for matts i use a les pooches matt zapper which is like a mini slicker brush for all them awkward places and it dousnt split the hair, the matts just brush out, for any other ones i use conditioner, or coconut oil (leave on for a few hours or while giving a full groom/massage then bathe, but dont put water on the coat first put shampoo on so it breakes down the oil, then add the water, i put a couple of drops of chamomile and tea tree too in the coconut oil in it too gives a lovely shine after) i work the conditioner into the matts with my fingers and tease apart. i also use a coat king to rake out his undercoat but he isnt anywhere near ready for a show so its ok on billy certainally stops alot of matting. i dont think there are many short cuts with these dogs they are a full on challange and i do my best to make it as nice as possible so its something that they want to have done. |
ChSheepdogs wrote: Ah slickers. Cathy & I buy them by the case & split the case! The important thing is to buy the proper kind of slicker. The hard slickers will take out too much coast unless you really know what you are doing. The softer slickers are the ones used to break up & eliminate the mats.
so - you gonna share which ones are the right ones? |
kerry wrote: so - you gonna share which ones are the right ones?
I'll check in the grooming room, I think I have a couple that are still in the package! Not easy to come by! |
| Ron, THANK YOU for posting that video.
I dug my slicker out of the back of the drawer tonight, where I put it almost 8 months ago after I was convinced it would not penetrate the girls thick coats. But after watching how Grannie Annie did it... HOLY COW! the mats came out really easily breaking them up with my fingers and slickering them during and after. And the most amazing part? TONKS AND LUNA LOVE THE SLICKER!!!! Tonks curled up in my lap and went to sleep while I worked on her (all 65 pounds of her) and when i was done, Luna fussed until I went back and got the brush out to do her!!! Then she wouldn't let me stop. She was so relaxed while I brushed her that when we were done, there was a drool puddle under her face! Luna couldn't get enough slickering. I'd finish a part, get up to go back to work, and she'd follow me making sighing a huffing noises until I got the slicker back out and started on her again. And the slickering pulled WAY less hair than the other way I was working, with the mat breaker and pin comb. And I haven't even gotten to the most amazing part yet. Adam actually commented on how nice the girls looked and felt. I've been grooming them for 10 months, and this is the first time he's done so!!!! |
| HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did you all catch her first line??????????? "I've had a lot of husbands and a lot of rescue dogs, the dogs were easier" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| She is more than welcome to try splitting Archies matts with her fingers
A samurai sword has trouble! |
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