Strange behaviors by my 8 month old puppy!!
He WILL NOT come back when he's called, no matter how hard we try. Weve been to obedience classes and done the recall training but it wont work anymore, he doesnt care if there is a treat awaiting him. He looks at us defiantly and just does his own thing! 
Secondly, im beginning to believe that he thinks he is a human...he wants to stand like us! when i stand up, he jumps up on me and puts his front paws on my chest, if i put him down he will continue to jump up on me and will only stop when if i sit down. He will not let anybody cross their legs, he will keep nudging at their legs until they are uncrossed and once uncrossed he will walk away, this seems to really annoy him, does anybody know why this could be? its very strange. Can anybody enlighten me to the cause of these behaviors? helen  |
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| can"t help out with the crossed legs.
think of him as a teeneager - if he knows his recall keep at it and he will remember. turn your back when he jumps until he is down on the floor. no attention unless all four feet are on the ground. good luck - this too will pass |
| Could he possibly have a legitimate hearing problem? |
| i feel your pain duffy is the ame age all of a sudden his training when out the window jumping , pullin. etc back to sq 1 |
You've hit that middle stage where they typically become bratty again and don't think they have to mind you at all (think human teenager). Be consistent and keep up with your training, this will reinforce it to him and believe it or not, this too shall pass. Good Luck!  |
Helenf wrote: He will not let anybody cross their legs, he will keep nudging at their legs until they are uncrossed and once uncrossed he will walk away, this seems to really annoy him, does anybody know why this could be? its very strange.
Bailey does this too. If you cross your legs, he seems to take that as an invitation to play with your foot. I've never gotten the feeling that it's an annoyance to him, just a game. Bailey isn't very good at recall either - but that's probably just bad training. On my part, not his |
ButtersStotch wrote: Could he possibly have a legitimate hearing problem?
No, he hears me, he looks at me defiantly and then just runs away! he thinks he is the boss....  |
| Here are some of the things I do when mine do not return on recall,first I give mine a play bow when I call them hay maybe that will get them back to play,if that does not work,if I am chasing them I turn around and start running in oppisite directions that usually gets them to start chasing me.You just got to make it more interesting to be with you instead of what they maybe after. |
steveoes wrote: Here are some of the things I do when mine do not return on recall,first I give mine a play bow when I call them hay maybe that will get them back to play,if that does not work,if I am chasing them I turn around and start running in oppisite directions that usually gets them to start chasing me.You just got to make it more interesting to be with you instead of what they maybe after.
BINGO!!! Now, who does needlepoint and can make nice little framed signs of the above that we can all hang on our back doors as reminders every time we get a puppy? 
Kristine |
| Thanks steve. i will definately try that. Oscar is like my shadow so im sure(i hope) he will follow. |
Mad Dog wrote: steveoes wrote: Here are some of the things I do when mine do not return on recall,first I give mine a play bow when I call them hay maybe that will get them back to play,if that does not work,if I am chasing them I turn around and start running in oppisite directions that usually gets them to start chasing me.You just got to make it more interesting to be with you instead of what they maybe after. BINGO!!! Now, who does needlepoint and can make nice little framed signs of the above that we can all hang on our back doors as reminders every time we get a puppy? Kristine We use the "Wanna go for a ride?" and run to the car and open the door. Hasn't failed yet, if WE remember to do that and not chase! Mulligan seldom takes off. We don't "trust" him, but we foolishly allow him to go from house to car without a leash and to go out to pee without a leash. Someday there may be a tragedy... Jake needed to be on a leash every second. |
| Are you practicing your recalls on a long lead? I've found that my dogs wound up a lot more consistent w/recalls if we practiced for a few minutes every day w/a long lead. This way, you always win. Even if he won't come to you, you could reel him in (of course praising him all the way). The less I practiced w/the long lead, the less likely my dogs would come to me. In fact, I rarely practiced w/my one pug b/c she was just so cute and tiny. Now she is the worst one of the bunch. She looks at me and then walks away! |
| Charlie is 8 months and is exactly the same! My hubby takes both dogs with him where ever he goes in the car. Libby goes obediently from house to car and back again--she LOVES her Daddy! Charlie goes from house to car...then psychs Bob out and heads for the house, looks at him, and takes off. It's the "HAHAHA you can't catch me" look and runs to the neighbors, then down the street, with Bob in tow. Often, I go out on the porch and call him in the "all excited to see him" call and he comes running. Makes Bob CRAZY!! But...whatever works.
Charlie is also a two-legged wannabe. The other night, my 20-year old was standing on one side of the "Diet Coke" table (we don't drink coffee... ) talking to me (sitting on the couch on the other side. Charlie came in from a potty break, ran through the dining room and took one big leap with both paws in the middle of Sammi's back about shoulder blade high. He flattened her into the table. First reaction was shock...then laughter (not a good thing)...and then "Oh my heck I can't believe he just did that!!" He frequently wants to be as tall as we are and for some of us shorties, he's almost there.
He's quite a character and definitely the talk of the neighborhood over his latest antics!! Since my youngest "human" child is 18, I figure we're starting through the teenagers again with the four-legged variety. I think we'll be about as glad to see him move out of the age as we were the other four!!  |
Your past the pupper stage and entering the "Teenage" phase 
Testing time and might pay you to go back to obedience classes and keep him busy and thinking. It is a challenging phase that they love to ignore you and they have minds of their own Selective hearing also then
Eventually they click with maturity and listen and respond with keeping up the constant training through this phase
Gotta luv those rotten teenage testing times  |
| When my pups won't come on recall and treats do not work I
flip the gate latch! They think "car ride" I do take them now and then so, I am not totally misleading! Even a ride around the block! If I don't take them for a ride I bounce to the door and make it so happy for them to come in! (I am sure I look dorky) Also we have used a can of treats, with loud pennies! Get's the attention and when they come they get a treat! Just thoughts! Good Luck! |
Quote: Now, who does needlepoint and can make nice little framed signs of the above that we can all hang on our back doors as reminders every time we get a puppy?
* A sheepdog with ears and another with ears fallen to floor titled Adolescence. * 3 sheepies: paws over eyes, paws over ears, megaphone at mouth. |
SheepieBoss wrote: Quote: Now, who does needlepoint and can make nice little framed signs of the above that we can all hang on our back doors as reminders every time we get a puppy? * A sheepdog with ears and another with ears fallen to floor titled Adolescence. * 3 sheepies: paws over eyes, paws over ears, megaphone at mouth.
I think I see a potential business venture here...
Kristine |
| I have had recall issues with two of the rescues. With the Chesapeake Bay Retriever, I locked him out of the house for about 10 minutes after he decided he wanted to come in (which is never any fun when it is 100+ degrees!) and I never had another problem with him. With the Neardie, Insane Jane it was a version of the same thing. Though she wanted to be outside so just closing her out never worked. But when she would run from us at the dog park, we would go to the car, get in and drive around the block before she would finally change her mind and come to us. The thing with both of them was that we had to use a happy tone to call them. Neither dog would come if they thought we sounded annoyed.
I have noticed that Betsy is starting to decide she doesn't want to come in right away after a middle of the night potty trip. I turn off all the lights and close the door and hold my breath. Within seconds she flies through the dog door to great praise and lots of loving since she finally made the right choice! Good luck with this. It is one of the most frustrating things! |
Can we add incredibly "SMART-MOUTHY" to this behavior?? I can't believe how "mouthy" Charlie's gotten this week. He stands and barks at us like crazy! When we tell him to stop, he barks more. When we get after him, he runs and thinks it's a game. The more we ignore, the more he barks to get our attention. It was NOT funny this morning at 6:30am when I was trying to get ready for work and one kid was still in bed nor at 10:45 last night when we were trying to go to bed.  He does it at random times: when we're eating, watching TV, going to bed, getting up, talking to each other (2-legged conversations), etc.
WHAT'S HIS DEAL????? |
Charlie's Fam wrote: He stands and barks at us like crazy! When we tell him to stop, he barks more. When we get after him, he runs and thinks it's a game. The more we ignore, the more he barks to get our attention. It was NOT funny this morning at 6:30am when I was trying to get ready for work and one kid was still in bed nor at 10:45 last night when we were trying to go to bed.
He does it at random times: when we're eating, watching TV, going to bed, getting up, talking to each other (2-legged conversations), etc. WHAT'S HIS DEAL????? *groan* We are living through this too. I must tell you, my first sheepdog did none of these things! Though, she was being raised by a teenager who had nothing but time to devote to her so maybe that is the difference. But yeah, ditto on the barking until she gets her way thing. In our house, she is generally barking at a fur-sibling that has toy she wants or believes is hers. She will bark at us, but I put an immediate end to that, even if it requires that I go and hold that cute little mouth closed. She got that fast. But she will still give a lot of grumbling back talk when we "shush" her. As for the late night or early morning barking, I couldn't tell you what my husband does to keep her quiet in the morning. Judging from the chaos I find when I wake up, he lets her do whatever she wishes. At night, I generally will scoop her up and into my bed and hold her really close and talk to her softly. Once she has calmed down, she gets returned to the floor or her crate. And I give her a rawhide chewie or her favorite bone to chew on afterward to refocus her energy. |
| Thank you so much everyone, its brilliant to have the forum to come to for advice from people with experience. To be honest i would be lost without it.
We have decided to go back to obedience classes on a 1:1 basis this time. With the jumping up on me, i have tried turning my back on him and ignoring him but he just jumps up on my back! I cant trust him while out in the park/beach to let him off the leash but hopefully with more training we'll fix it. As for him uncrossing peoples legs, thats not going to stop, maybe it is just him playing and i really dont mind and in fact i find it quite funny so others will just have to get used to it.
Thanks again xxx |
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