If you considered a Beardie and an OES...
I looked a lot into a Beardie since they are a tad smaller, but from the sites I did look at including a forum, it "seemed" as though overall ...the OES was known more for getting along not only with children but with other canines AND non-canines MORE than any other herding breed. This being important to me since I have a cat, toy dog, and quite possibly having and/or adopting an upright in <2 yrs. Is this true (the profiles found on akc and such) or do/did you not see much of a difference in personality and temperament? |
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| Hi,
Bullshot would probably be the best one to answer this question, since they've had both. I mentioned on Roy and Elby's post that I often wondered if Shaggy was really a beardie due to her small stature. I received the opinion of four vets and numerous dog experts claiming that she wasn't even tho she was quite tiny for an OES. That could have been due to her near starvation and abuse as a pup. Poor Shaggy 
Sometime back I did read the AKC's description of Beardies and next to OES I would say they are one of my favorite breeds. I think the ability to get along with other dogs is said in general terms as each dog is an individual and it really depends on their socialization with others when they are pups. Beardies have different coats - longer or silkier if memory serves me right and for some reason I seem to remember that beardies although they come grey in color - it's not the same coloring as that of a Sheepie. Arg!! this has happened to me on a few post today can't remember where I heard it from as I'm constantly reading so much info. Another thing is because Beardies are considered medium size dogs their life span is a bit longer than that of a Large Breed as OES are. The rule of thumb is: (This is not exactly scientific as genetics, diet and other health issues are considered) Small dogs can live up to 20 years (chihuahaus, toy poodles, etc..) Medium dogs - 15 years Large Breed - 10 Again, this is only in general terms and not a hard and fast rule. As with people life spans there are those that live to be over a hundred even tho the average life span may be 85 in your country. Sometimes we get lucky! Marianne and the boys |
| I would say that it completely depends on the temperment of the dog in question - not the breed! Both breeds get along well with children and animals - as long as they have been bred responsibly!!!! Actually - I would have said that Beardies might even be BETTER with children than OES.
They are very much alike in personality - with the exception that the Beardie can be more "active" (physically or mentally). I have said - OES are like clowns and Beardies are like clowns with ADHD.  Beardies are notorious escape artists! They can JUMP and are very agile (some OES are as well). They don't have the undercoat like the OES - so in my opinion grooming is much easier.
Go to the Bearded Collie Club for more info - http://beardie.net/bcca/ There are some health concerns with Beardies (as there are with all dogs) - but from what I've seen they have a great research and health network! You should meet both breeds and see what you like best! Good Breeding makes all the difference in the world and I have found that there seem to be more reputable beardie breeders with available litters than I've seen OES breeders. They are similar but they also have some differences (tails for one!) and if you have your heart set on an OES - you should go with your heart. Size is another (but actually a Beardie male can be the size of an OES). Beardies can be several different colors too (brown, fawn, black, blue). There's my two cents.... Kristen |
| In addition to what Kristen said about good breeding, I personally think SO much of it has to do with the way a dog is raised. Not that everyone who has a misbehaving dog has raised it wrong, but the dog mind interprets situations, daily occurances, differently than we would expect. However, a healthy, happy dog who is loved and well cared for, mentally and physically stimulated etc... should be able to deal with daily occurances and different situations. Regardless of breed. |
| ...after doing some online research on beardies we are somewhat relieved that their personality seems quite OES like but 3 issues are raising slight uncertainties for us...
1) Seems that many beardie owners mention a barking issue, Tung Tung only barked during thunderstorms and Fan Fan doesn't bark at all (creep at first but now used to her quiet ways...). We live in what could best be described as a semi detached brick dwelling...on quiet nights we do hear the neighbours and barking is a concern. 2) Active/Hyperactive - Right now Fan Fan go for walks twice a day, a short 20 minute potty walk in the morning (before we go to work) and a leisure/socializing/play walk for 1 and half to 2 hours in the evening – longer on weekends... is that enough for a 1 year old Beardie? 3) Jumping/Leaping – As my grandmother lives next door fanfan usually spends her afternoons there, I would suppose that must not be possible with a beardie. How does a beardie's domestic demolition ability compare with an OES? |
| I think you will find that your activity level will meet with a Beardie's needs. They are very trainable - and as long as you are consistent - I'm sure you'll be able to teach her not to jump (many are involved in Therapy and a requirement of that would be not to jump). As far as the barking - they can be vocal - but I'm sure you will be able to work on that behavior with positive training as well.
There's a great Yahoo Beardie Group - there's wonderful people from all over the World that have alot more experience and would be able to help you! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeardieList/ There are several members in Japan (I don't remember where you are from???)! Best of Luck! Kristen |
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