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I know it's early in predictions but, please, anyone in the projected track/landfall area, get out no later than Friday morning. Please |
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We can't decide whether or not to leave. It's hard to decide. I live in NW Houston. The only concern is how many days will we be w/o electricity and water. I've been told over and over that they advise you to tough it out until after it passes, so people in lower areas can get the hell out. Good thing I just stocked both fridges up with a crap load of meat/seafood. 
I just hope it doesn't head straight towards us ....Galveston!!!!! I'm a bit scared since this is my first. Thinking about driving to Austin in this traffic if we do evacuate doesn't excite me either. |
Joahaeyo wrote: Good thing I just stocked both fridges up with a crap load of meat/seafood.
Isn't that bad? Unless you have a generator and lots of fuel, it could all spoil if the power is off more than a few days.  |
| I know! I was being sarcastic. That's horrible!!!! I was preparing for the new oven. You have no idea how jam packed they both are. I bought whatever was on sale in bulk! |
| My nephew was pulled into Carswell for Gustav. He is in charge of one of the medical teams that fly in the hospital planes. He was happy to say that it was pretty boring - flew some elderly out of Beaumont to San Antonio.
We've just finished the clean up in Dallas and supplies are moving in for the next bunch of evacuees. We are on standby to process a large of people with medical issues.. They are predicting heavy rain the DFW area over the weekend. |
Speaking of someone that just went through a week that was extremely stressful I would recommend getting out of dodge. Especially since you have two small children. If you can evacuate - do it and do it before the rest of TX does it! A 2 hr drive can turn into a 10 hr drive during evacuation. Now would be a good time to go and visit your forum friends in another state. 
Take pictures of every room of the house and every angle of the outside of the house before you go. Take with you any important papers and anything that is totally invaluable to you whether it be your wedding dress or baby booties or the pearls you inherited from your grandmother. The biggest thing we learn from Katrina here in LA was that you take with you those items that have memories for you. All the rest is replaceable with insurance. And if you need help making up your mind go over to Pictures where I only uploaded a few of the pictures I took after Gustav which wasn't that strong of a hurricane compared to Ike. |
Stay safe all, if the recomendation is to GET OUT then do  |
Quote: I've been told over and over that they advise you to tough it out until after it passes, so people in lower areas can get the hell out.
GET THE HELL OUT |
BatonRougeSheepies wrote: Speaking of someone that just went through a week that was extremely stressful I would recommend getting out of dodge. Especially since you have two small children. If you can evacuate - do it and do it before the rest of TX does it! A 2 hr drive can turn into a 10 hr drive during evacuation. Now would be a good time to go and visit your forum friends in another state.
Take pictures of every room of the house and every angle of the outside of the house before you go. Take with you any important papers and anything that is totally invaluable to you whether it be your wedding dress or baby booties or the pearls you inherited from your grandmother. The biggest thing we learn from Katrina here in LA was that you take with you those items that have memories for you. All the rest is replaceable with insurance. And if you need help making up your mind go over to Pictures where I only uploaded a few of the pictures I took after Gustav which wasn't that strong of a hurricane compared to Ike. also whether you stay or go have cash, your social security cards, ID, insurance policy information and any prescriptions you need for you or the kids. In th ecase of a prolonged power outage or long time away from home these are the items you need to get any assistance and |
| We aren't prepared to leave as we should have already be packed and the house ready. We're staying. 1M are already on the highway, and that's just Galveston. The only thing we're concerned about for now is how long we'll be w/o electricity since we don't have fans or generator. I think you have to be "here," to know why we're staying. Generally NW always stays put and braves the storm. Friends come here to stay, and we're in its path. We are projected to get some bad--- winds, but all the news anchors in the NW are saying they're staying put as well. We plan on staying away from the windows starting Friday night. Trust me, if it was suggested NW leave, WE WOULD. |
| Fill your gas tanks (power out equals no gas in most places) and get cash (ditto for ATMs)
Stay safe |
| Good luck, Jo.
Depending on how long you are out of power, it's actually better for your fridge/freezer to be packed. It stays colder longer that way. Of course if you are out of power for a prolonged period of time that doesn't help, but if it's only a few days, then it might last. And, of course, don't open the fridge/freezer unless you absolutely need to. It loses cold air that way. Just make sure you have enough non-perishable food. I remember when we lost power for a week with Isabelle, that was what was hard--eating. Because all the restaurants were out of power, so we couldn't get food from them, and all the grocery stores were without power (they have generators, but that only cools the bare minimum and the store across the street actually BBQd all their meat and sold it to people so it wouldn't go bad. But I remember thinking, there's nothing to eat. Sure, I had canned tuna, which we ended up eating plain on bread (mayo went bad), but it's not fun. Also, remember you might not have a way to heat things up, so things like canned soup won't work. |
I lived in sw houston when hurricane alicia came through in 1983 was without electricity for about 12hrs you should be ok.  |
| If you have room to do it, and an automatic ice maker, start bagging ice, and when the power goes out, put items like sandwich meat and cheese and such, maybe water bottles, in a couple of coolers with the ice in bags. That way you don't have to open the fridge to get little items like that out. I still have about twelve gallon bags full of ice just in case our power went out here. And on the plus side, you can drink the water as is melts, too. Good luck and we will be saying prayers for you and your family! |
| Scary....
I hope everyone stays safe... Perhaps you could cook a bunch of the meat in advance and re freeze? It would stay good longer if it was cooked to eliminate any bacteria in it? |
| Praying you, hubby and the little ones all stay safe Mrs J |
Willowsprite wrote: Scary....
I hope everyone stays safe... Perhaps you could cook a bunch of the meat in advance and re freeze? It would stay good longer if it was cooked to eliminate any bacteria in it? That's what I was thinking. Too bad we don't own an oven until next week. 
I'm about to tackle the zoo (highway and loonies trying to grab last minute supplies) so I can get some chocolate. I'm about to go bonkers. I started drinking diet soda while I was preggers with Joshee. Well that did a number on my already damaged kidney, and I ended up in the emergency room Monday. So quitting caffeine cold turkey is hell! I've gained 3 lbs since monday eating instead of drinking.  |
| If you cannot find a generator or don't want to invest in one, see if you can get an inverter and a couple of batteries. Then, at least you can have some power if it's out for a while. You won't be able to pull the fridge on it, but you can use your hair dryer and watch tv.
Stay safe!! |
| Think: camping. Store water, enough for drinking, bathing, let's hope not to flush toilets as well. Bathtubs hold a lot of water for flushing toilet.
Plan on water based drinks, sandwiches, snacks, fruit......if your can opener is electric, have a manual one. Eat those fresh veggies and other spoilables today and tomorrow. This will be a chance to test the window seals.....let's hope they are better than the plumbing. Do you have enough towels to seal under doors? Candles high set away from Little J, flashlights, lots of story books, and a couple bottles of wine for you and Mr. J. .......and diapers for Joshee. Expect to be without electricty for a couple of days, so tie that refrigerator closed so Little J doesn't go looking. Praying you, your family and home remain safe. |
Beaureguard's Mom wrote: If you cannot find a generator or don't want to invest in one, see if you can get an inverter and a couple of batteries. Eeeexcellent Idea. They will run off your car cigartette lighter for small loads (up to 90 or 100 watts), or directly from your car battery for larger loads. You will need to run the car to recharge the battery after larger loads. A car alternator can handle probably 100 or 135 watts, so to avoid overloading the alternator, you'd run the inverter with the car off and then recharge the battery after. A normal car battery has about 1,000 watt-hours, and would only last for short bursts with a 130 watt load on it; perhaps 4 hours, for about 500 watt-hours, a 250 watt load about 2 hours, and so forth. You don't want to go too low (under 50%) as it damages a normal car battery.
For a 100 watt load you could run with your car idling pretty much continuously; for a load of 50 watts or under I'd run the car about 50% of the time as it will recharge the battery while also powering the inverter. I don't want to add fuel to the fear, but I feel compelled to add that if it makes landfall as a cat 2 or 3 I think you'll have wished you left. If the thing blows up to a cat 4 or 5, well, good luck. |
| Mr. J is upset you guys mentioned an inverter to me which we have, he says. I immediately think blowdryer, but he's telling me I'll probably blow something up w/mine so I can't use it
We have enough food to last a month or more!!! I bought 4 super size bags of chocolate too! Also got a propane grill (the last one) today, and fought (literally had someone snatch it out of my hand) of bread today. I did have it first, but I failed to mention that I already had 2 loaves in the freezer, so I guess I was being greedy going to the store for one more. I'm scared!!! I like to overstock! Anyway, I can't believe how rude this person was. I saw 6 trailers with tons of horses on the way home. Guess the police will be riding on them. Seems so hot for the horses on the highway, but I don't know what they can handle! steveoes wrote: I lived in sw houston when hurricane alicia came through in 1983 was without electricity for about 12hrs you should be ok.
That's amazing because Mr. J was in the NW and here for Alicia ...and his mother confirmed a few minutes ago that they were out of electricity for over 4 days. You got lucky!! 
Ron, trust me... you don't have to convince me to leave. I want to. It's mr. j, his parents, and our neighbors saying to tough it out. The mayor said to tough it out too so people in the surge can make it to out. |
| Mrs J... take a deep breath. Now you are in a newer home and I am sure you have or are putting your hurricane shutters up. Make sure both of your cars are full of gas. It sounds like you have enough food and formula to keep you for awhile, diapers too. Fill the bathtubs with water, but remember to keep the doors closed so neither of the babies can get in the bath tubs. Have a bunch of towels ready just in case there in water seapage through the floor/walls. Make sure there is nothing around the outside of the house that can fly around.
If the Hurricane is going to hit, hope it goes through fast. Fay sat on us for over a day and we had 30 inches of rain. You WILL be able to handle every emergency that may come from this. (hope none). You have a lot of support around you....After Frances hit us in '04 we where without electricity for 2 weeks and survived. 
Take care of yourselves and don't let the Weatherpeople upset you too much. |
SheepieBoss wrote: and a couple bottles of wine for you and Mr. J. .
Hmm, maybe there will be a little surprise out of all this? They say there's always a baby boom after a disaster...  |
| Hi,
I would suggest to anyone in a storm prone area, where the power goes out, get an "old fashion" oil lamp. They are safer, give better light and are cleaner than candles. Almost every hardware store carries the oil and wicks for them. My oil lamps were a godsend during the big blackout we had in the NYC area several years ago. A good items to have around! Kathie |
| You could also get some dry ice to put in fridge
Joahaeyo wrote: steveoes wrote: I lived in sw houston when hurricane alicia came through in 1983 was without electricity for about 12hrs you should be ok. That's amazing because Mr. J was in the NW and here for Alicia ...and his mother confirmed a few minutes ago that they were out of electricity for over 4 days. You got lucky!! |
| Jo it is better for you freezers to be full. If you lose electricity do not open them for any reason. This will keep the cold in!!!!
Also stock up on water now from your tap fill a bathtub if you have an extra tub. This water wont be good for drinking but you can use it to flush toilets if necessary and etc because if you have a well you'll need electric to run it. |
| The warnings we're heairng on CNN now are as dire as I've ever heard them, and it's only a cat 2. It's so huge though,.. and aiming straight for Galveston and Houston....
Is it too late to leave? |
kajochen wrote: Hi,
I would suggest to anyone in a storm prone area, where the power goes out, get an "old fashion" oil lamp. They are safer, give better light and are cleaner than candles. Almost every hardware store carries the oil and wicks for them. My oil lamps were a godsend during the big blackout we had in the NYC area several years ago. A good items to have around! Kathie I have 2 of them - and they get used when the power goes off. Mostly for snow storms in the winter. Luckily haven't had to use them for several years. Todd said "you better plan on getting wet" - how like a guy! Seriously, I hope it's not as bad as they are forecasting, but it still is going to be a big wind and LOTS of water. Definitely use coolers for anything you plan on using if power goes off. And don't open the fridge or freezer - for anything! I freeze water in old milk, juice, water bottles, etc. containers for the cooler, and then use the water when it thaws. It works great. |
| Definitely fill bathtub and large containers with water, that way you'll have some to flush toilet and extra for cleaning up.
The grill is a good investment, I always keep a spare bottle of gas on hand as well. Mine also has a side burner so I can fix just about anything I can with a range. Stop by the bank or ATM for cash, no power equals no credit card transactions. Also all stores will be closed w/o electricity so stock up. Fill up the cars, gas pumps also require electricity. If you have storm shutters close them, if not and they are still calling for 75-100 mph gusts in Houston, you might want to board up. Putting duct tape in a star or grid pattern will help keep the glass pieces in larger sections should they break. Also close your curtains or drapes to minimize flying glass just in case. Make sure you bring in everything from the outside, you'd be surprized the things that become missiles, trash cans , toys, patio furniture, etc..... Get a good book or 2, and someone already mentioned the wine. If there has been a history of flooding in your area, it's a good idea to put as much stuff as possible on the upper level of the house. We lived on the NC coast, these are things I found helpful. Be safe Kathy |
| Before and during these storms - PRAY!!! We have been and will continue to pray for everyone's safety!
When the storm's passed, don't forget to pray and give thanks to the Lord for His protection!!! NO MATTER what property damage may be done, as long as lives are spared - thats what counts! Everyone has given very valuable tips - ESPECIALLY about keeping the bathroom doors closed with little ones around. If they can reach the door handles, you might put a latch lock up high enough that they can't accidently get the doors open! If you plan on using candles, make sure you have matches or lighters and keep them where ever you think they'll stay dry. ??? You might want to TURN OFF your electricity, gas and pilot lights before the storm hits ??? May God bless and keep you all safe!!! Pam (mouthypf) |
| I woke up so scared w/the new updated news.
I gave everyone baths last night so worst case scenario ...at least the dogs are clean.
We stayed out w/our neighbors until the winds picked up last night. Apparently some people lost storm for 2-3 wks last time in my area, so I'm VERY THANKFUL I don't live in Galveston or LA because I can't handle the stress all the time. God bless you batonrougesheepie! |
| The water is heading over the wall into Galveston and the surge hasn't even come yet. Good Golly, things aren't looking good. They said they've never seen the water get this high prior to the storm. I hope the hurricane isn't so bad. |
Joahaeyo wrote: The water is heading over the wall into Galveston and the surge hasn't even come yet. Good Golly, things aren't looking good. They said they've never seen the water get this high prior to the storm. I hope the hurricane isn't so bad.
Is it too late to leave???? |
| Mrs. J, be careful!
My husband will be there tomorrow for disaster relief with the insurance company he works for. Even if you aren't with (hope I can mention this-no plug for the company he works for, promise) Farmers, they'll provide food, water, phones if you need it. |
| Wow, Jo, just catching up on this thread. How scary! Everyone has given you excellent advice, and things I would have never even thought of. Stay safe! |
| Pics 6, 7, 8 suck
http://www.khou.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=282017 Funny clip. Too much time on their hands, but then again ...they're morons for staying in the surge area. http://www.khou.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=282017 |
| Oh, and Jo--try and keep us updated if you can...you know how we worry
Oh, and I was looking on msnbc.com and there's a picture of a woman holding a child in her arms and a wave is crashing right next to them. Makes me SO mad that someone could be that dumb and possibly endanger a child like that  |
| It'll make you feel good then to know a family of 6 was interviewed in Galveston. Soon after they were rescued. Police followed, and they were arrested for child endangerment! I was happy to hear about it!!!
edit: oops, this is the photo gallery I meant to post above but accidentally posted a video twice.. http://www.chron.com/news/photogallery/ ... aches.html |
| The guy in the 8th picture must've really gotten rushed out of his home since it appears he forgot to but his pants on.
(I realize he probably didn't want to get his pants wet but it didn't dawn on me at first. My first thought was "What kind of pantsless shennanigans is this weirdo up to?") |
| Best wishes to everyone... both residents and volunteers who are going in to help.
Quote: The guy in the 8th picture must've really gotten rushed out of his home since it appears he forgot to but his pants on. Shocked
(I realize he probably didn't want to get his pants wet but it didn't dawn on me at first. My first thought was "What kind of pantsless shennanigans is this weirdo up to?") This is a time when a guy in a Speedo might be a good thought... |
| Hope all remain safe, pretty scary stuff especially the storm surge coming up, hope those people had the good sense to leave that area. There tipping that is where most of the danger is now with Ike the Surge.
Thinking of everyone and hoping not too much destruction. |
| I fear Galveston is in dire straits, this could take the sea wall. People become too lax about hurricanes. I was glad to hear the rescue people won't be going out after 9:30 pm to get the idiots who failed to leave.
Stay safe JO and we'll await your report.....even if it takes days. Hope that builder built a stout house. At least there are no trees to come crashing down. |
Praying for you all Jo...check in as soon as you can.  |
| I hope everybody is safe.....
Hurricanes are so scary when they get to that magnitude. Good luck on the gulf coast.. You are certainly in our thoughts tonight! |
| Just want to add my "Stay safe and update when you can" |
| If anyone is up and wants to see live the Houston area news stations online this shows 4 of the Houston's tv stations on one website:
http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/ike.html It does not look good for the Galveston and Houston area. Praying heavily for all involved. The outer bands of Ike with the wind are still being felt here in Baton Rouge. |
| Wow, this is looking horrible . Be safe and very careful Mrs. J. we're all thinking good thoughts for you! |
| I just took my last shower. Took it as FAST as possible b/c over 800,000 have lost electricity already, so I know our time is nearing. Still crossing my fingers it's not so bad. lol |
| We are hoping you are all safe and well, with minimum damages, keeping everyone over there in our thoughts and prayers. |
| Thinking of you |
| Stay safe Mrs J and family. You are all in our thoughts and
prayers. Please update us when you can. |
| I'm a bit of a hurricane junkie, so I've had The Weather Channel on and off last night and this morning. My heart goes out to all in Ike's path, and prayers said often for our friends in Texas and Louisiana. Please let everyone get through this safely. |
| Hope all is well Mr and Mrs and J and the little J'babies. Take care will thinking of you :ghugs: |
| I hope we hear from her soon.... |
| I spoke to Mr. J this morning. Their power is out but he did say that he didn't think they had any damage but that was early this morning and it was still raining and blowing hard there. |
| Thanks Wyn! |
| I'm angry about the people who ignored the evacuation order and stayed. Now the First Responders are trying to rescue them, while trying to avoid putting themselves in danger.
Ad the guy who was interviewed after his rescue from Galveston. He refused to leave, pancked at 2 AM Saturday and called 911. They told him to tie his ID to his leg. He really expected someone to rescue him at that point? He's mad. Idiot. For the others, I'm sorry you had to go through this and I hope you are safe. Hopefully you took the important things with you, the rest can be replaced. It will become a great family story once it is all over. |
| When we found out those who refused to evacuate that were mandated to ...and then got bit by snakes, Mr. J said GOOD! I felt so bad to see those who stayed in line for food/water and had little children in their arms.
We're doing great. We lost a few trees in our front yard, but the house held up great. However, not a single traffic sign stayed up, and downtown Houston is a total disaster area, but I think Houston will be back on their feet faster than expected. We're already shocked how fast our electricity came back on. The projected 2-4 weeks was just 2-3 days for us (Thank God)! However, I'm still 3 hrs away letting the boys be spoiled by their grandparents. Plus I miss using an oven! We went looking for a generator in several towns, cities... and there wasn't one in a 300 mile radius ...or projected to have any until the end of/beg of oct! Now that this has passed, we plan on getting one once they're on sale, and we look into what kind/how big/etc (we have no clue how big it needs to be to hold a a/c unit but know we will have to fork some money into it). The thought of this happening again in the middle of a heatwave kills us since we have little ones to think of! |
So glad you are all safe and that you have electricity again!!!!! What would we have done 100 years ago? That oven may take a little while to get delivered.  |
| Mrs. J -
Glad you guys are ok. Let everyone know plenty of generators here, but I think Lowes and Home Depot are planning on packing them up and sending them to the stores in your area. You want at least a 5500 or larger generator. We have an 8000 one and it runs our freezer, refrigerator, a/c unit, microwave, toaster oven, etc... Do not buy one that is being sold out the back of a truck in a parking lot. Lots of folks did that here and the units are already fried and they have no warranty on them. Could you let me know if you find out about a POD (point of distribution) center near Katy? My nephew and his family live there and they are without power and ice is fast defrosting. Thanks! |
| Many of the Sear's said they could get one by the end of sep, but the rest had an even later date. Cabellas (sp?) had the LARGEST shipment in the other day, but they couldn't get them off the truck and into the store b/c the line to get them was so long. We've had our entire houston board say there is none anywhere, and my dad who works with some folks in the know said even the tiniest shops that most don't think to go to are out! People who evacuated from LA took a lot of them we were told.
Thanks so much for calling! Wish I could have talked you! The first time, I was busy packing up the belongings and tending to teh boys, and the second time... Mr. J was on the road (w/o me)! You're an angel!
Hope we have no more come this season! |
| Look into junkyards for old motorhomes... most have/had generators of some sort. |
| So glad to hear your family and others are fine!
Those told to go should be ashamed of themselves for not going and then "expecting" our rescue forces to risk their lives to get them out afterwards! When you do get a generator, don't forget it HAS to stay outside/ well ventilated! |
| Ron that is probably the smartest place ever to find one.
mouth, thanks. Didn't know/think of that either. BatonRougeSheepies, thanks for telling me what to look for! The one I was looking at was less than you were suggesting, so I will look at different ones now. |
| Now that this storm is over take your time researching generators. We have a large one that cuts on automatically whenever power goes out...we have a big gas tank buried in the ground that runs our fireplace, stove, etc... and the generator will run for 7 days and run everything in the house, tv, refrig, etc..If we are careful with use, we can run it 14 days. Gas is the key. We have a well so running the pump is necessary for water as well. Husband spent alot of time doing research and working out a deal...it's not cheap but safety is a big concern when running a generator and setting them up is not easy. In Charleston people had generators but couldn't get gas to run them. We don't worry about AC so much in the mountains as it's never over 76 here on a hot day everywhere else but during the winter we can have snow/ice storms and heat is essential. In 1993 they had a killer snow/ice storm hit and it was a couple of weeks before some people got power and a week for the road leading down the mountain to be cleared. We decided since we were going to retire here a good generator was worthwhile. Sometimes the power just goes out and we don't know why? Generator just kicks in and everything runs normally. |
| Yeah, Jo! I'm glad you and your family fared well and that you weren't out of power for long.
Although I was looking forward to the Cooking section of all the gourmet camping-style food you would make without power |
| Ooooh! Mrs. J.... would you like to start an "oven free" recipe section? |
| So glad all is well with you and your lil' bugs!
We go the tail end here in Ohio, and I can not IMAGINE being in a hurricane. We lost two big maples yesterday, and my canna's look like feather dusters. Shredded to bits. Max was scared out of his mind. First time he has ever reacted to a storm or wind at all. He curled up on my lap like he was a toy poodle. Poor baby. |
| YAY Mrs J glad to hear you are all ok |
| Who would have thought we would have a problem from a hurricane in Cincinnati, Ohio.
We have not had electric since Sunday. It is so great to have it again. It went on yesterday and then went out again last night. There are still 500,000 people in the area without power. It is unreal. All of the schools have been closed. We could not find a gas station open. Finally last night we found one and we waited in line for quite a while. Some people get very nasty because they have to wait. I haven't been on here for a while. We just bought a different house and we are trying to get this one ready to sell or rent out. We went to check and make sure it is still standing. Carley will have her own room at the new house. I love it. It is all on one floor. I am going from 1 bathroom to 2 1/2 baths, no dishwasher to a newly redone kitchen with granite countertops and a dishwasher and the laundry room is next to the bedrooms. Is that great or what!!! |
schoolmarm wrote: Who would have thought we would have a problem from a hurricane in Cincinnati, Ohio.
We have not had electric since Sunday. It is so great to have it again. It went on yesterday and then went out again last night. There are still 500,000 people in the area without power. It is unreal. Yes, that is amazing how something created in the water can stay strong enough or big enough to effect such a large area. I don't understand how it does it. I'm still at my mil's house. Being very spoiled at the moment considering how cozy her place is. On the downside, there have been 8 (6 were dead) scorpions here in the few days I've been here. Did I mention the boys are sleeping on a mattress on the floor? Scares the bejeezus out of me! Geckos are worst to ME but I realize the scorpions can actually do harm unlike the geckos who can just make me tinkle in my pants. |
| yyyyyyaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkk!!!!!!!! If there is anything in this world i hate it is scorpians! I have been stung 3 times in my life and all i have to do is look at one and i remember the pain....... not good.
I am so glad you guys are all okay. Once the world gets back together in your neck of the woods i will put you in touch with some wonderful OES people in your area! May need Mr. J to send me his headhunters he used to find jobs etc. Norm still has no leads........ he thinks he wants to go back over to either the sandbox or Afghan. once Logcap IV takes effect. I just know he's got to find something!! |
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