Poofy butt/ show grooming
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| Well.....here is a secret I will share......I use Sta-Flo liquid spray starch. You can dilute it with just a little water in order for it to be able to spray out of the spray bottle. The day before the show you gently mist it over the topline and sides, and the head coat too, fluff it all up, and then the day of the show you spray the roots, give it a little tease, and voila....a perfect hump without any stickiness.
Trimming also plays a role in keeping the coat up. If trimmed properly, you hardly have to use anything to get it to stay up. |
| Thank you! What is the difference between starch and hairspray? I just checked some out on ebay and it is packaged like hairspray. |
| Are you thinking of showing Ru Cassie??? Good luck if you are! |
Summer will never get that fluffy, she is getting matts again...  |
| Ru is beautiful. Good luck |
Hint of Mischief wrote: Thank you! What is the difference between starch and hairspray? I just checked some out on ebay and it is packaged like hairspray.
There is a difference. Look for the liquid starch in the laundry product area. It is used on clothes to give a crisp look when ironed. 
(OK, I am showing my age for sure!)  |
got sheep wrote: Look for the liquid starch in the laundry product area. It is used on clothes to give a crisp look when ironed.
(OK, I am showing my age for sure!) I iron and use starch. . . but never on Maggie!  |
Valerie wrote: I iron and use starch. . . but never on Maggie!
I never would have thought of using starch. How did the poofy butt become the standard "look"? |
| It emphasizes the topline that is supposed to be higher in the rear than in the front.
Back in the 70's it wasn't so poofy (in the front, anyway); it was a more natural look: http://www.oes.org/html/si_inside.html http://www.oes.org/html/si_cover.html Full-size scans: http://www.oes.org/assets/images/SI.jpg http://www.oes.org/assets/images/SI2.jpg |
| Trimming helps if the Butt coat gets too long then not a hope in hell for it to floof out & stay up. Also retaining as much undercoat when grooming for thickness helps also.
I use a product call "Fluff Out" the day before a show you just puff the stuff through the coat and it helps to keep it floofy.
Tove posted some diagrams ages ago, even though in Norsk gives you an idea to where to Klipp/Trim and the overall look you are trying to achieve in show presentation. 
With or without a tail the presentation is still the same, in the UK, Europe and Australiasia the coats are longer for presentation in the showring.
Best wishes with Ru and hope you have fun in the showring. |
Blueshire wrote: Well.....here is a secret I will share......I use Sta-Flo liquid spray starch. You can dilute it with just a little water in order for it to be able to spray out of the spray bottle. The day before the show you gently mist it over the topline and sides, and the head coat too, fluff it all up, and then the day of the show you spray the roots, give it a little tease, and voila....a perfect hump without any stickiness.
Trimming also plays a role in keeping the coat up. If trimmed properly, you hardly have to use anything to get it to stay up. Where do you get it? I can't find it anywhere, some online stores but they won't ship to Canada.... |
| It must be in Canada somewhere. Where do you buy it Amber? |
| thats all I use on mine,, pure fresh air,, dont think we are allowed any products on the coat in the uk except water, wish it was different
huggles b-eye |
| Actually I have to go to the US to buy it. I believe last time I went over I bought it at Wal Mart in Buffalo. Its a big blue gallon jug, and its located where all the laundry products are. |
| At first I thought you meant the clothes starch, which I looked for on ebay. The search showed up some hair starch but also clothes starch. My other question was going to be about products and whether/which ones are allowed.
I'm not planning to show Ru yet- he has no experience, and neither do I so I think classes are in order first! But there is a show like the one Karen entered Poppy into, where you can only enter your dog if they have never won anything. It's also silly things like waggiest tail, most beautiful eyes, most handsome dog, dog the judge would like to take home etc. It's in a few weeks, I will enter Ru if the weather is dry, otherwise I don't think I can cope as it's on grass! Those diagrams are really helpful, thank you so much! |
| Actually it IS clothes starch. You want to get the liquid, not the kind in an aerosol.
And yes, foreign substances are not suppossed to be used, but everyone does anyways. You do not want it to be obvious to the judge, nor for the coat to be sticky, which is why I prefer the starch vs hairspray. The starch just gives the roots a little bit of a lift without feeling sticky. Like I mentioned before, its really all in the haircut that makes it stay. And while we are on the topic, is there anyone else that wishes we could just show them naturally, with no excessive trimming or teasing? I would still like the bums trimmed and the paws rounded so they look neat in appearance, but that would be it. The problem is no matter how much I would love to do that, I would have the only dog in the ring not all teased up so I would stick out like a sore thumb. |
| My husband and I were talking about it last night, when we go to our next show we are going to mention to people if they would just like to go natural, of course having butt and feet done. We will ask the nice ones |
Went to a show recently and my husband felt the puffy ones looked like they could hide more faults.  We are going to be showing and will need all the help we can get. I love the more natural look. |
| Yes, teasing and excessive trimming can hide faults.....but a good judge who knows our breed standard well should be able to feel with their hands what is really under all the coat. Small heads can be made to look larger with all the teasing, toplines can look correct with teasing.....bad rears and fronts can be hidden with trimming....the list goes on and on....but the true dog can be felt with your hands. |
| Did you get the brush from Dairymaid yet Amber? It really seems to fluff them up with regular brushing. I love mine! Nigels gets a poofy butt just with the brush. |
| I haven't received it yet....but I am very anxious to try them out. |
| Archies bum today was stuck up with something that would raise eyebrows nevermind coats, we had fun in the the bath with the shower nozzle!
Has Ru's coat grown back much to be fluffing it up yet? |
Willowsprite wrote: Where do you get it? I can't find it anywhere, some online stores but they won't ship to Canada.... Stacey, I'll be in Milton in a few weeks and I think Amber will be as well. I can bring you as much as you want. |
bestdogs wrote: Willowsprite wrote: Where do you get it? I can't find it anywhere, some online stores but they won't ship to Canada.... Stacey, I'll be in Milton in a few weeks and I think Amber will be as well. I can bring you as much as you want. Cool! Thanks |
It puzzles me why you don't have liquid starch in Canada. 
Any idea why?? |
| JMO I like the natural look. I like to see them all fluffed but they look funnier than they do naturally. |
got sheep wrote: It puzzles me why you don't have liquid starch in Canada.
Any idea why?? It puzzles me too! We only have the aerosol spray starch, and trust me, I searched everywhere. I am fortunate to live 20 minutes from the New York border, so shopping in the US is no problem for me. |
Blueshire wrote: got sheep wrote: It puzzles me why you don't have liquid starch in Canada. Any idea why?? It puzzles me too! We only have the aerosol spray starch, and trust me, I searched everywhere. I am fortunate to live 20 minutes from the New York border, so shopping in the US is no problem for me. We have both liquid and aerosol here. And we are nearly in Canada too! I wonder if it is available commercially? - for laundromats and dry cleaners and places like that. |
Quote: Has Ru's coat grown back much to be fluffing it up yet?
Almost, actually I think its a bit long at the back, it just keeps flopping down. |
| You can find liquid starch also in the craft deartment at stores. |
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