Rescued sheepdog - problem with urinating on walls
Anyway, her OES passed away last summer, and we found a rescue for her this summer at a shelter. He's about 2-3 years old. Supposedly altered. He's underweight - very bony. Very submissive. Scared to death. Has a nice haircut, but weird tar on his ear and kinda dirty when she got him. Anyway, my OES was neutered young, so he squats. I have to say he never has urinated in the house. (poop another story when he was 8 weeks. old) He never once lifted his leg to go on the wall or upright objects so I'm at a loss at what to tell her. Last night was their first night. She caught him time and again trying to urinate on the wall. She does have another dog - a male bichon that is boisterous but neutered. I'm just wondering if they are having a territory war (also they are getting along fine). Is it normal for a dog that is neutered to mark like that. They said he was house trained, but from his condition, it appears he was an 100% outside dog and very very neglected. Other than that, he's extremely docile with baths, ear cleanings, taking pills. He also had another dog at the shelter bite up his leg and ear, so he's on antibiotics. Yikes. What a rough start. Sorry this got long - mainly am interested in tips on how to stop a dog from marking, other than catching them in the act and yelling. And yes, he's going to the vet as soon as an appt is available. He's not up to date on shots. Thanks much, Jane (for Max and my Mom, Janet) |
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| Being neutered doesn't mean they don't still mark, and neutered dogs stilll will lift their leg to pee.
My first OES rescue did the wall marking a few times when we first got him, but he got over it. |
kerry wrote: Being neutered doesn't mean they don't still mark, and neutered dogs stilll will lift their leg to pee.
My first OES rescue did the wall marking a few times when we first got him, but he got over it. 
If they don't get over it in a timely manner, she can put some peepee pants on him. I think I embarrassed my neutered male into good behavior... 
Now he only lifts his leg on his sisters when they're outside 
Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: kerry wrote: Being neutered doesn't mean they don't still mark, and neutered dogs stilll will lift their leg to pee. My first OES rescue did the wall marking a few times when we first got him, but he got over it. If they don't get over it in a timely manner, she can put some peepee pants on him. I think I embarrassed my neutered male into good behavior... Now he only lifts his leg on his sisters when they're outside Kristine yep we do have that going on everyonce in a while - Marley may get to be an only child yet  |
| Old habits die hard. First, you need to start housebreaking as if they were a little 10 week old puppy that came to your house to live. Tough to do because you see this bigger adult that you think "should" know what you are talking about. But any new living place requires starting from square 1. The training should go faster than with a pup of course. Consistency is the key. You mentioned that there was another neutered male in the household. Possibly the reason the new boy is marking also is that he is covering up other smells (maybe really old ones that humans can't detect) from the other male. Most likely to get rid of these odors permanently so there is no reason to mark, you will need to get a carpet person in. They can go around with a black light & sometimes they even "sniff" to see where to inject odor elimnators. These aren't just cleaning solutions but actual solutions that break up & eliminate the odors. Same goes for hardwood floors & tile. |
| Thanks - yes she's treating him like a puppy at square one. what are pee-pee pants? LOL Like pull-ups for toddlers. She also heard about some band you can put on them, but i need to read up on that. She's not going to do a major carpet cleaning til he's on his way. Last I read, it's fairly impossible to get rid of dog smells, outside of getting new carpets and new floor boards. I wish she had wood floors. I think carpet also reminds them of grass.
You can tell we are both new to the world of male dogs. Part of the reason we always had females was because of the horror stories, now we're living it. LOL. But they are worth it. They also pee on each other. She finally checked him out and he has loose skin "down there." Which means, he must have been neutered not too long ago. We definitely got mixed stories about him. First they said he was a puppy, now we find out he's 3.5 years old. Off to the vet for him tomorrow. I am 2000 miles away from my mom and I feel like I was the one that just rescued a dog and can't sleep the last two nights. We hope there is nothing wrong with him healthwise, but I think he's going to check out just fine. |
| not much difference between a male pupy and a male 3.5 year old |
kerry wrote: not much difference between a male pupy and a male 3.5 year old
Ain't that the truth. Pee pee pants are kind of like toddler pullups, yes. In my boy's case, he didn't like piddling on himself (sort of) and plus it's not much fun to mark your own pants. Che was returned to me with an interesting array of annoying behavior (also known as lack of training), stuff he should have learned as a puppy, but, oh well, and has been said, a little consistency goes a long way. And even allowing for the ingrained factor, if you can break the behavior (such as with pants or a belly band), you can set them up to succeed pretty quickly and the advantage of having an adult is at least he can't use the tiny bladder excuse
Hope all goes well quickly and that Max checks out medically. Kristine |
| When we get any dog in to foster, I assume that they are not house trained until proven otherwise :) And, I always start them on basic house training from the moment they come in the door. Fortunately, the older dogs all seem to learn pretty quickly. :lol:
The other thing is to use an enzymatic cleaner such as Nature's Miracle wherever they pee in the house. Good Luck, Jennifer, Baxter, Cassiopia and Abby |
kerry wrote: not much difference between a male pupy and a male 3.5 year old
Or a 35 year old, really. |
| Well 24 hours has made all the difference. Vet check was fantastic today. She said indeed he was just neutered, so now we know why he does what he does. He had a little abscess where he was bit on the leg and she drained it but it ended up not being infected. He's only 55 lbs. Skinny mini.
I must have a miracle asexual dog because he never has pee'd or marked on anything, including another dog or object. But then he was neutered at about 6 months if I remember correctly. He looks like a garden fountain with all four paws down while he goes. I never get over that - it's like they go from the center of the belly. So he's (max the rescue) not actually pee'd or pp'd on the floor at all yet. Just the attempt to mark with a few drops. The "belly band" only comes in sizes up to medium!!! (jack russel size) I looked it up and what a fantastic idea. She also started crating him at night too - he did much better and did not cry all night or look for the snack-sized bichon. He just curled up and slept. And he's eating like a hog now. It would be funny to see a 35 year old with a belly band if they leave the toilet seat up or "miss". Ok, maybe that'd be scary. |
| Hi there!
Max wears a belly band. His injury left him with the dribbles all the time. We get the men's depends inserts for the band, and it works great! We have several colors, and got them at Pet Smart. Good luck! |
| My basset Simon wears a pee band at night. Never used to, just lately now in his older age. (he's 9). I don't know if he just got lazy, or what, but he holds it all night with the band on.
He is fine with it, so we are both happy. No pee in the house for me, he gets to sleep on the livingroom couch! I use a generic maxi pad in his. A whole package of them cost less than $2. The brand of band I have I have is Daba Doo - I have their awesome martingale collars too. Here is what they look like. http://www.gollygear.com/restr_band.htm I can buy mine locally - cost is about the same. Good luck! |
| Trying to set up an account for my mom and her rescue, the one I posted this message for -- MAX. New pics uploaded and pending approval! (':wink:') |
Wow, Max is cute!!! 
Welcome Max and MOM |
Quote: Wow, Max is cute!!!
Welcome Max and MOM Ditto!!! |
| Besides Nature's Miracle, look in your yellow pages for business' for prof. carpet cleaning supplies. I have one in Loveland that produces/carries a product called SAVE A PET and it takes out all the smells and another product called TSR that takes out ANY stains......... |
| We recently moved and have had "potty" issues with Violet. What has worked better then Nature's Miracle is Greased Lightening in picking up her accidents. You can buy it at Lowe's and Home Depot. It is in the household cleaning products isle. I was disappointed in the Nature's Miracle product, but Greased Lightening works great.
Violet is finally adjusting, tg, but it has been frustrating with beige carpeting.  I prefer tile with dogs.
Good luck and I hope everything works out. |
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