BARF or KIBBLE
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First off, that's wonderful that you were able to take the rescued wanderer into your home. Now, 200 grams of kibble is NOT enough dog food. They should be eating 3-5 cups of food per day depending on their weight and height etc. When you say royal canin for mature, do you mean a diet for adult dogs over one year old, or for senior dogs? A diet for senior dogs is definitely not what you want for two young dogs. If the one dog is thin, puppy food wouldn't hurt, but definitely a maintanence food. Feeding the chicken is probably ok as long as it doesn't seem to upset their digestive tract, but I'm not sure what you mean by the bones as well?? Chicken bones are VERY dangerous for dogs or cats, they splinter and can cause them to choke, or worse, perforate internal organs and cause internal bleeding and death. If you mean a chicken bone meal, (ground up and dried) then that's different. Just chicken though does not provide adequate nutrition, and if they are eating very little kibble because they are filling up on chicken, they may be suffering from nutritional deficiencies. I would contact your vet and get the dogs looked at to get a proper diet recommendation to suit their needs, this is just my opinion. |
Thank you for your kind reply. I think maybe they eat more then 200grms in the morning as I checked the cup used and it can be almost 420 grms. Sorry for the mistake. On the other hand, about the chicken, I feed them like this: I stew the whole chicken (on a daily basis) until it is not red anymore. Then, feed them just like that, chicken WITH the bones. Of course, they love the bones, and so far, no problem at all. I stay with them until they finish. My question is because some people say it could make any internal damage (and that makes sense... although in my oes so far, so good), but other people recommend BONES as a source of calcium... ?????  So, what kind of bones are they talking about? I give them the EQUILIBRIUM tabs daily as supplement to their diet. The ROYAL CANIN food is for Adult dogs, not old dogs, and was recommended by our vet because it helps with the joints to prevent hip displasya and other problems... Anyway, please let me know what you all think... |
I'm not very familiar with the BARF diet - but it is my understanding that chicken and the bones are fine in the BARF diet - but NOT cooked (or stewed). It freaked me out at first - because I was always told Chicken Bones were bad for dogs - but apparantly RAW chicken bones are not. 
If you are going to continue giving your dogs chicken and bones - I would seek advice of a BARF diet expert - so you know exactly what and how this program works. If you need a contact - let me know - I know of someone who feeds their OES the BARF diet (she's a fanatic about it though!) Welcome! Kristen |
| Thank you Kristen. Sure I will appreciate if you introduce me to someone who succeeded with OES and BARF diet... |
| Hi Guys,
Just a word about chicken bones, from my culinary class- poultry bones are known to splinter, whether raw or cooked in any manner. It's an issue when raw for cooking- because you can get the splintered parts in your dish if you don't cut through the bone correctly. When cooked- it poses a hazard to anyone who might try to cut through the bone when carving(or in a dogs case, it would be chewing on them) I had a cat who got into a stewed chicken carcass (we left it out after dinner) and got a splintered bone stuck in his throat- luckily for us, we were able to remove it quickly, and he suffered no ill effects. I would definitely discuss with your vet... I'd hate for you to go through what we went through with our kitty, or worse! Although, the stewed chicken itself sounds yummy! Can I come over for dinner? Karen |
| Most people that I know of who feed BARF use ground beef, along with a whole lot of other things, veggies, fruit, grains, supplements etc... but I have no experience with it personally. |
Quote: - I would seek advice of a BARF diet expert - so you know exactly what and how this program works.
I totally second that. I am a member of a labradoodle forum (founders of the non-shedding breed --- also on the news) and they are strong believers of the BARF diet. Well, in the course of 4 yrs (how long I've been a member and have hosted a board for them), there are several new owners who wanted to continue this diet. SEVERAL (10+) have lost their dogs and/or have come extremely close ($$$$$) because the raw meat caused their dog to get sick. I am all FOR it for the reasons it was created/promoted ...just not w/o extensive knowledge. |
| Thank you guys... Sure Karen, you can come over for dinner anytime Well, this is what I will do from now on... Keep on feeding Kribble (top of the line Royal Canin) during the mornings (about 400grms each dog) and for dinner stewed chicken WITHOUT the bones, adding some veggies and eggs mixed on a food processor... and keep on giving them their vitamin suplement. If anyone would give me a better suggestion than this, please feel free to let me know... |
| Thank you for not feeding your dog chicken bones anymore. When i was 11 we moved from Louisiana to Nevada about 2,000 miles. We stopped in Arizona at an Aunts house. She fed her dog chicken bones and we didn't know until it was too late that our dog a cockapoo named Cindy ate some too. They splintered in her intestines and was VERY painful. She didn't make it. I lost my best friend and hide and go seek partner, (she could find me no matter where i hid I still miss her. She was the best dog that i was ever owned by.
cher |
Quote: and feed them chicken with bones (450 grms) late at night. It is not actually BARF, 'cause I stew the chicken. I would like to know your opinions regarding if this is a healthy nutrition for my oes or not. They excercise for about 1 hour daily and seem to be fine, but Nani (the rescued) does not gain weight as Nina did. I also supplement with EQUILIBRIUM tabs, two tabs a day. All your comments and suggestions will be highly appreciated... Thanks in advance
Never feed your dog cooked bones. WE have fed BARF off and on for 5 years and are probably going to go back to it. It is wonderful and the dogs do so well on it. Housebreaking is easier becuase they use so much of what they eat they do not put out so much. Cooked bones can kill your dog. Cher, Sorry to hear about your baby, you nbever get over the loss of a loved one. |
| Willowsprite,
BARFers feed their dogs chicken bones (RAW only) - they feed them whole chicken wings too - bones and all. http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html Here's some information about it - particularly the "chicken bone" issue. I feel the same way as you do - but it's done. 
Kristen |
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