Konetco Flooring
I have found this flooring http://www.flooringmarket.com/vinyl/kon ... estige.asp It is a plank style floating vinyl flooring, the commercial grade is guaranteed for 25 years. I saw it laid down in my hair dressers shop last night and it is BEAUTIFUL. I wondered if anyone had it or knew anything about it. |
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| I put down a similar product a couple of weekends ago in a small bedroom. The one I used was Traffic Master Allure Dimensional Flooring... it looks like the same type of product.
http://oesusa.com/FreshPaintNewFlooring.jpg http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... =100595231 It was SO easy and I like how it's a floating system... sticks to itself rather than the floor. You just score it with a utility knife, bend and cut the back like you do with drywall. I watched the video and the one I have looks like it might be thicker than the one in the video but it's so hard to tell. It has a 25 year limited warranty. This one is a bit slippery though... I thought I'd like to put it in the kitchen but am not sure now because of the dogs. How was the surface on the one you saw? I'd like to hear more about the finish of the one you're considering. |
| I'm very interested in this. I want to tear the carpet out of my upstairs office because it's getting converted to a puppy room and I was looking for something that could, well, get peed on! What kind of padding goes underneath, Jaci? |
ButtersStotch wrote: I'm very interested in this. I want to tear the carpet out of my upstairs office because it's getting converted to a puppy room and I was looking for something that could, well, get peed on! What kind of padding goes underneath, Jaci?
None, you can put it over existing linoleum or sub floor. At least that is what they told me. No felt required like Laminate. The other thing I really liked about it is some of the colors have a textured surface, textured enough that pups with bacd back ends won't be slipping and sliding when they try to get up and down!!!!!!!!!!! You should have seen me crawling around on the floor examinging my hairdressors floor last night. |
| I was wondering why they mention this when the Konecto tile is added to the shopping cart? Maybe it's just for certain applications?
Quote: Konecto Underlayment 100 sf/roll KONECTO UL $46.00 Exactly as Ginny says... this one goes over your existing subfloor, tile, concrete, (not carpet  ), etc. but I think you'd want to have a pretty flat surface. There were a couple of broken tiles I replaced before putting this one down. If you misalign this one, you have to quickly pull it apart and realign it. You line up the edge for a tight fit, keeping the rest of the tile in the air, and then bring down the length of the "plank". Easy, easy. It was a bit tough to cut out a cold air vent in the floor because this one is thick in the middle but it's definitely do-able.Quote: I want to tear the carpet out of my upstairs office because it's getting converted to a puppy room and I was looking for something that could, well, get peed on!
And this is supposed to be perfect! It's for basements and bathrooms too. We had asked the guy at Home Depot if it would be ok in the kitchen because of the dogs water dish (we currently keep a towel under it). He said to apply a bead of caulk where water might seep under.
We put it over an existing vinyl tile floor that was all scuffed up. http://oesusa.com/flooring.jpg The instructions recommend keeping a 1/8" gap from the wall for the house expansion/contraction probably due to temperature/humidity. Pop the molding off the wall before you lay it though. The reason I mentioned that it might be slippery is because I had Maggie jump up on the bed last night and she kinda scampered trying to get a running start to jump. But the bed is higher than the one she usually gets on. Maybe that has something to do with it. |
Quote: The other thing I really liked about it is some of the colors have a textured surface, textured enough that pups with bacd back ends won't be slipping and sliding when they try to get up and down!!!!!!!!!!! I've got to see if I can get a sample. The one we have has a textured surface too but it's not enough for real good traction for the dogs. I guess I'm thinking of them running through the kitchen trying to get to the back door first  Quote: You should have seen me crawling around on the floor examinging my hairdressors floor last night.
And you have NO pictures of this?  |
| Sadly no.......
My hairdresser did tell me that there are several different "grades" of the flooring. She recommended the COMMERCIAL grade "Prestige". According to her Home Depot does not carry the commercial grade. I don't know, I have not verified that. The cost difference is less than a $1.00 a square foot but the commercial grade, when used in a residence has a warranty of 25 years. I can't answer the question about underlayment. I have not actually been to the flooring store (hopefully this weekend). My hairdresser did not use underlayment. I'll report after my trip to the store 
Oh and Jill, I'm sorry to tell you... I don't think you can buy it with COKE POINTS |
Tasker's Mom wrote: Oh and Jill, I'm sorry to tell you... I don't think you can buy it with COKE POINTS
Lol. Too bad. But, it does look like I can do the whole office for under $500, which is awesome. I plan to through some rug tiles down, too so I'm not concerned about it being too slippery. This is really great. Thanks so much for showing it to me! (James does not thank you because I told him he would be installing it!) |
| I got mine with AmEx points
Quote: My hairdresser did tell me that there are several different "grades" of the flooring. She recommended the COMMERCIAL grade "Prestige". According to her Home Depot does not carry the commercial grade. I don't know, I have not verified that. The cost difference is less than a $1.00 a square foot but the commercial grade, when used in a residence has a warranty of 25 years.
Ok... that might be why the one in the video looked more flexible and easier to cut/break. Thanks for the info on this... I didn't know there were other mfrs. I could check with. Tell James it's really not so bad. I got a little 10x13 room done in about 4 hours (according to Jim... I was in the zone just wanting to get it done) except for the very last row that I had to cut lengthwise and the closet. It's the odd trimming that takes the longest... bigger rooms mean more full "planks" so it goes pretty fast. Honest, he won't hate it as much as he thinks he's going too |
| I just watched the video and it looks really easy-- like even I could do it! I love that you don't even need a saw. Just score and snap. I can do that! |
| You can do it. Just start out your first row so it's square. You can shift the flooring even after a few rows are stuck together (unless you use the tape they mention in the instructions for the first row... two people at Home Depot told us it wasn't necessary... but check!). You stagger the seams so if the first row starts with a full plank, the second row will be 2/3 of a plank and the third will be 1/3 of a plank. Then repeat it. You use the leftovers at the opposite end of the room and of course the raw/cut side is always at the wall.
I used a pencil and a T-square to mark the flooring then made a freehand cut it with a utility knife. You can use a straightedge to cut if you feel more comfortable. The moulding will cover any slight variances in the cut. It was actually pretty fun... and I like how easy it is to clean. |
ButtersStotch wrote: I just watched the video and it looks really easy-- like even I could do it! I love that you don't even need a saw. Just score and snap. I can do that!
My friend did it herself, well her husband did it. She said it was not at all as easy to cut as the video made it look. They used tin snips and other than hard to cut she said it was very easy. BUT, she used the commercial grade which she said is considerably thicker. I think for the minimal difference in price I will go with the commercial grade as well. JACI- love the color of your floor, do you know the name? |
On the box of the one I have, it says to score 2-3 times then snap it. It's not light handed scores either. I scored it on a board then put the score on the edge of the grooming table (:lol:) to snap it. It was more of challenge to get that cold air return hole in the floor cut out but with patience (and a few choice words  I got it.
The one I have is called Allure Blonde Maple. Here's a closer picture- http://oesusa.com/Floor.jpg I did not use a roller- the instructions say to to use one!! And the house is air conditioned so temperature might not have been an issue?? There are some conversations about both products here... should probably read through them before buying. Mine has only been down about 2 weeks. You'll have better questions to ask than I did. http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fl ... 54333.html And this link is mentioned on the site above- http://forums.houseandhome.com/showthre ... ge=4&pp=15 I had asked about shrinkage, like other vinyl tiles do, and they said it wasn't a problem but I DO expect it to do the same over time. There was one more thing... I read that the Konecto product has a paper backing applied. The TrafficMaster product does not... loose papers separate the planks. You have to be careful that you don't get dirt/dust/HAIR! on the adhesive strips. Keep the vacuum handy as you lay the planks so you make sure it's clean. The only area I had a problem figuring out was the last strip along the wall. If you're sizing the TrafficMaster product along the wall, place a sheet of the liner paper under the plank as you fit it so you don't accidentally stick them together too soon. Once you've got it trimmed to just the right size, remove the paper and apply it like the others. |
| Ok...this is sounding pretty neat. How soft is it? Would office chairs tear it up? I am guessing it would be pretty darn easy to replace pieces also.
It looks real enough? I would love to put this in at least half of our house. Another question. When we go to do this and pull up the carpet...if there are pee spots on the sub floor, how easy and costly is that to replace? Or is there a really good cleaner I can clean the wood with? Thanks! Julie |
| I can't really say how it's going to wear since I've only had it a couple of weeks. Since it's vinyl, it's probably the same durability as vinyl which can scuff up if you slide chairs across it repeatedly. I put furniture thingies under the legs of the dresser and bed to hopefully keep it looking good.
I've got Bruce hardwood oak flooring in half the house (it was beautiful before the dogs scuffed it up but I knew it would happen before I had it installed). I don't think you'd confuse the two products- vinyl for wood. Maybe the Konecto product is different though. As far as laying it over pee spots? Check with the flooring company.
I'd think just so you got it so it didn't stink and wasn't warped that it would be fine. Let it dry thoroughly after disinfecting it and before installing the flooring so you don't get any mold growing under it. If you read the comments on the links above it might give you more info. If you have to replace a piece, I think the instructions said to cut around the seams, score it in the middle and lift the damage piece out. It would be more difficult than replacing just a vinyl tile because of the thickness and the fact that it sticks to the adjoining tiles. It said to use double faced tape to apply a new piece. You'd also have to cut off the adhesive tabs on the new piece. |
| Thanks 6girls. I just read ALL the links...very informative.
I printed all of it out for hubby to read tonight. I am excited to think I am getting rid of this nasty carpet without breaking the bank (so much.) We are waiting for our new couches (leather) to arrive. So alot of work ahead for us! (Geesh..this little girl (Addie) is STILL costing me, "trying to get practical.") |
| I know....VAL!!!! WHERE ARE YOU?
I will just buy your house. Okay? Then I won't have to worry about a thing. You can leave the "Tuffet" too. Love, Julie  |
AddieLuv wrote: .
Another question. When we go to do this and pull up the carpet...if there are pee spots on the sub floor, how easy and costly is that to replace? Or is there a really good cleaner I can clean the wood with? Thanks! Julie I would buy some Kilz and pain over the pee spots before laying the planks just to be on the safe side. THANKS THANKS Jaci for your information. My internet has been down all weekend and this is the first chance I have had to check the site. I hope to order the flooring in the coming week. |
| Ginny! Great idea! Never thought of Kilz.
Thanks!! Julie |
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