How often do you brush your oes?
How often does an OES need to be brushed? If I would like to keep a "puppy cut" how often would I need to have him/her cut? What other routines do you need to do, and how often? (I was reading about plucking hair in their ear?) Also, do your OES generally get along with cats? I'd like to get all of the facts before I make such a huge decision. You all seem very knowledgable. Thanks!  |
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| My Violet, I do keep in long hair and I do brush her daily....and give her weekly baths. I know many bath a lot less. I don't pluck the hairs out of Violet's ears because when she was groomed that way by a professional groomer she had recurring ear infections for a long time and was treated by the Vet. I just wash her ears out with a wash cloth and has not had ear problem in a couple of years. I do know that most people do, indeed pluck the ear hairs, but in Violet's case it works better this way.
Good luck with your decision. |
| If you keep your OES in a puppy cut you should brush thru them once a week with a pin brush & slicker the feet & legs. I pluck ears weekly & wipe them out with alcohol. Would probably take you most likely an hour to do this if your dog is trained on a table. Nails should be done on a regular basis too. If you don't like using clippers (I don't), you can use a dremel & grind them down. My dogs tolerate either. I tolerate the dremel better. If you want to keep them in a puppy cut without too much grooming inbetween I'd say you'd probably have to get them trimmed up about every 3 months. Depends on how fast the hair grows. The closer you get to that mark, the longer you will have to spend grooming. I bathe my dogs about every 6-8 weeks. Show dogs get their whites bathed more often. With a puppy cut you'd be able to bathe them inbetween having them bathe & clipped. |
| Both my girls are in a puppy cut right now for the summer, but with some length on thier legs and face. I still brush them everyday; as their coats are getting matts in their feet, ears and snouts almost daily. I think its because they are transitioning from their puppy coat to the adult one.
I don't trim thier nails; we take pretty long walks on paved areads, so that keeps them naturally filed down. I had them cut when I had thier coats done about 5 weeks ago. I asked the groomer at their doggy daycare to trim them yesterday, and they said that there is nothing to trim! I do clean their ears out with the weekly bath, and try and pull hairs as I can. But the girls are a little intollerant of the hair pulling. |
I have Two sheepies One in Coat and the other short (because she hates being brushed) Hattie I line groom her every week on the table it takes me about 3 1/2hours to fully groom her thats doing her eyes, ears and trimming her feet. And I also give her a brush with the pin brush inbetween. Where maizie gets the same but she only takes me an hour Thats if she doesn't run off hahahaha!!!!! I don't do their nails I let the vet do those  |
| For full coated dogs, line grooming once a week, which takes about an hour to an hour and a half, does the trick.
I don't bother with cutting to a puppy cut, I shave them right down a few times a year and it grows to about an inch of coat within a month. |
| If you're adopting you might have grooming issues to begin with, ie., might be an adult dog that has never had proper grooming. Certainly you can condition a dog to like being groomed, but it will take time. I notice such a difference in grooming Frank which we started as a puppy, and Rebecca who we didn't get until age 5. Frank falls dead asleep when I brush him, while Rebecca worms around the whole time. |
| I keep Edgar in a puppy cut all the time. Right now he is shaved due to the extreme heat here in Arizona. When he is super short then I never brush him as he doesn't need it. When his hair starts getting to the longer stage of a puppy cut then I try to do it once every week. Sometimes I miss and it's once every two weeks. But you start having more tangle issues if you let it go to long without brushing when it gets longer. This might take me about an half an hour.
I only clean out his ears when he needs it done. I have never plucked them as he does not have a lot of hair in there. I have had the groomer do it every once in a while because I WON'T do it myself.  I think that him personally it would be fine if they were never plucked.
I only bath him when he needs it. When he was a puppy I used to bath him every week. Some people still bath their dogs every week, others every month, some once or twice a year. As for cats..... ........Edgar likes them......a little too much. We have two cats. When we first got him we put up baby gates so the cats had a place they could hide. That worked good. Even though Edgar was a puppy around them he still will pester. I think he wants the cats to play. He will bat at them with his paw if he is in a playful mood, chase them if they run, lick their heads, sniff their butts  . The cats will tell him off if he's too annoying. Jasper will power smack his head and bite at him and Daniel will claw at him if he gets too grumpy. In turn Daniel and Edgar will sleep on the bed together and the cats will take turns stealing Edgar's bed. It seems to me that most of the OES here on the forum like to pester cats but are okay. Then there are the few that hate cats and the few that are best of buds.
They really adapt to your lifestyle. If you do a lot they will. If you sit around watching TV all the time they will be the biggest sofa cushions and laze around all day. When we were thinking about getting an OES it seemed like a lot of maintenance on paper. I feel like they are very easy dogs to take care of. Maybe because I always keep him in short hair. |
| Archie is almost 11 months
He still has his full coat. Baths he has only ever had two, he has also had the cold hosedown in the garden a couple of times after wading chest deep through cow poo! 
Brushing - general brushing daily, deeper brushing paying attention to mats once maybe twice a week, the more you keep on top of it the less work it is. Ears - I don't pluck regularly -I use ear wipes to keep wax build up on hairs down to a minimum, maybe twice a month. The sloppy beard a gentle wash maybe twice a week with a squirty bottle and a towel Feet - claws I keep an eye on them for growth, but Archie gets a lot of pavement work daily and the hard surface keeps them down, pad hair, trimmed to the surface - he has very tickly feet, so doesn't like me putting the scissors between the pads, but I regularly check for debris in the remaining hair between the pads. Grooming may seem an issue to the new owner - but I strongly believe that because of this grooming, you build a very close relationship between you and the dog, that you probably would not get with a lower maintenance dog. They really are very special animals. Cat's, Archie absolutely loves Maramlade and Toast, our two 8 year old cats, he wants to play with them all the time, they now tolerate him, they realise he is pretty harmless and can be kept in check with a few well placed swipes, it is so funny watching him jittering around them head down paws out bum in the air tail wagging enthusiastically Although they don't care for him much, they are quite happy to turf him out of his crate and monopolise his bed! |
Archies Slave wrote: Cat's, Archie absolutely loves Maramlade and Toast, our two 8 year old cats,
Those have got to be the cutest cat names ever! I want two cats named Maramlade and Toast now! |
| When I was a kid our neighbor had 2 cats named Romeo and Juliet.
I think MARMALADE & TOAST are much cuter !!!! Baloo gets a bath by me every couple weeks (more if he's been caught digging or gotten into the lake/mud puddle here). I try to keep him brushed good weekly... his face and feet especially. He goes to see Katie at the groomers for trims and what-have-yous about every 6 to 9 weeks.... |
| My friend had 2 cats named, Gin and Tonic. |
| I brush some part of Obe everyday, usually in the morning (he's in full coat). He doesn't mind me trimming his behind, pads & nails, which get done about once a month. Twice a month his ears and beard are cleaned (beard with All Systems whitening gel). His eyes are cleaned everyday as well as sticks, grass, pine needles and small cones, flower petals, pebble or two,and just about anything else he find removed from his coat. Oh I vacuum daily to every other day as well. He goes swimming/wading about 2 -3 times a week. He sees the groomer every 3-4 months. Which she then shaves his belly and very lower part of chest to an inch keeps him a little cooler and a little less grooming for me. I think the last time was at the groomer was the end of March. He has an appt. July 24th. They are definitely a dog that the more you keep up with their general maintenance the easier it is for each party. |
| i forgot to mention his undercoat gets brushed/removed once a month. |
| I have three sheepies at home two of them are show dogs which are kept in full coat and the third one is our beloved pet he is kept a little shorter. My two show dogs are groomed once a week and it takes about 4-5 hours for each dog depending on how much they have been playing in the garden, during the grooming session I cut the claws, clean and remove hair from the ears, clean their teeth if necessary and trim between the pads. I only wash them occassionly although the white always gets washed just before a show. |
| I wash Rosie around 6/8 weeks and brush her out every week. I scissor the coat down a bit to make it more manageable but its still around 4".
with the under coat removed I find it doesn't tangle anymore like it did when she changed form puppy to adult coat. Val |
Valb wrote: tangle like it did when she changed form puppy to adult coat.
Val oh my... we're at that stage. EVERY DAY I find new mats that weren't there the day before. And the girls are not so patient with my dematting efforts. |
Darth Snuggle wrote: Valb wrote: tangle like it did when she changed form puppy to adult coat. Val oh my... we're at that stage. EVERY DAY I find new mats that weren't there the day before. And the girls are not so patient with my dematting efforts.Hi, Give them a little tuna fish every week, this will help keep the coat oiled. I would also use detangling shampoo and wash them every 4 weeks to ensure that all loose hair is removed. Val |
| I'm with Darth - Fitzwilliam is 8 months old - which I guess means his coat is transitioning from puppy to adult coat and MAN OH MAN! I thoroughly line brush him constantly ... it feels constant anyway and the brush feels like it's becoming an unnatural extension of my now aching hand. One day I'll do his legs and stomach, the next day I'll do his head and body and so it goes ad infinitum. And seriously, it's like brushing a cotton ball - a huge dirt and leaf filled squirmy cotton ball.
And that's my life.
People assure me that the adult coat will be much easier to deal with, which had Better Be A True Story. 
Fitzwilliam loves cats, btw - he's more tolerant and affectionate with my cats than with anyone else. But this is important: my cats are very dog savy. I'm sure that if a cat ran from him, Fitzwilliam would chase it and who knows what he'd do if he caught it, I hate to imagine. It's just that my cats know better than to run, and they know that a quick smack on Fitzwilliam's huge nose is effective as a way of saying "Knock it off Beast!" So really, I think it depends on the individual cat, and individual dog - it's an unpredictable thing. |
| Hi Maf,
Yes i can confirm it is much easier with the adult coat but it will take until there about 14mths to settle down. After that you only have to worry about the undercoat but not the tangles. I do 3 oes one which is mine and 2 others that are customers dogs and there easier to groom. Now I'm a groomer i just love to do them, once there scissored you get a real wow afterwards. Val |
| I love brushing them too. I spend an hour each night just looking for new mats and removing them. I know I'm not getting all of them in that time (on two pups) but I feel like I am at least keeping it under control.
I just bought a de-matting comb online. It has razor teeth... a grooming friend of mine suggested it. But I don't know how much its going to help. Anyone have any feedback? |
| Bingley is 2 years old, still going through a coat change, and in full coat. I groom him twice a week for about 2 hours each session. The ear plucking I do whenever I think about it and he is near - he's really good about it now, although he was finicky as a puppy. I have rarely given him a full bath but every couple of months I wash all his whites, and I use a no-rinse soap on his mouth about every week.
Good luck! |
| His 2 sisters I need to do every other day
Edy Mop lover wrote: Bingley is 2 years old, still going through a coat change, and in full coat. I groom him twice a week for about 2 hours each session. The ear plucking I do whenever I think about it and he is near - he's really good about it now, although he was finicky as a puppy. I have rarely given him a full bath but every couple of months I wash all his whites, and I use a no-rinse soap on his mouth about every week. Good luck! |
| From what I have been told by some show breeders, and experience with past OES, it can take up to 3 years for the coat to fully change. |
wendy58 wrote: From what I have been told by some show breeders, and experience with past OES, it can take up to 3 years for the coat to fully change.
Oh yeah I am going through that now and my guys will be three in the fall. |
| It is easier now that we are at 27 months.
Chewie still has a bit of his puppy coat hanging in there, but it is still soooo much better than this time a year ago!! Full coat here too. A thorough line grooming every week is good, with little spot treatments almost everyday as needed. |
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