OES breeding
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There's lots to learn before starting a breeding program! You will need to have your dog tested for several genetic diseases... and you really should think about showing your dog and see if the independent judges think your dog is as beautiful as you do! 
That way you'll stand a great chance of breeding to better the breed, and not cause someone heartache over a hidden genetic defect down the road. |
mommydorgan wrote: AKC registered OES who I am debating breeding VS fixing and I don't know where to turn. Gorgeous in looks and temperment. Please guide me. We live in Northern NJ, USA.
Well we all think our OES are gorgeous even the ones that come from puppy mills, how do you know how gorgeous and to standard your girl is without the evaluation of a 3rd party (A judge in conformation) We are all pretty blind when it comes to an OES that is in our family. Do you also belong to an OES Club? Have you attended Health Seminars on the breed and what they can be carrying Genetically? etc etc etc, is this your first OES? Butterstoch posted this link awhile back, interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Fair/1901/chart.html Also do you know all the required health testing before breeding a litter, are you knowledgeable on the breed and all that lurks? Do you have great knowledge in the dogs in the generations past behind your girl? We all would love to have a pup from ones that we own but there is so much that can and does go wrong if you have no experience in the breed. Unless she is proven then you will also have trouble finding a quality stud dog for her to go too as well. If your girl came from a reputable breeder then speak to them about breeding her as they would be the most knowledgeable about who to put her too and all that is required before breeding her so it does not turn into a tragedy for you and your girl. The costs associated with breeding is astrinomical, all the health testing, whelping, raising a litter and that is if nothing goes wrong, like a bitch needing a C-section, loosing the bitch, hand rearing a litter etc etc etc, think long and hard before taking that next step with your girl and look to your breeder of your girl if they are reputable for advice. Please register and I am sure there is a lot of others that will chime in as well, it is a great forum that we all learn from |
| While it is good that you are asking for advice in an on-line forum, it also indicates that you probably don't have a lot of experience in breeding pups, so be sure to get a reality check: it's a HUGE amount of work, time and personal investment. And whether you are an elite breeder or a BYB, it is certainly something you wouldn't do for the money -- you'd be better off getting a minimum wage job for the amount of work involved.
I too have a gorgeous OES pup which is healthy, smart, and has a wonderful, easy going temperament that I adore. He is the first dog I am raising from puppyhood and I was really tempted and encouraged by friends to breed him. But realistically, this is just fantasy talk because at this time in my life I simply don't have the time or resources to adequately undertake such a huge project. So I am having him neutered next week. Still, I might one day (after retirement, perhaps -- a long time away!) want the experience of breeding a litter, but from where I am at, it is something that would take years of planning. Well before that day comes, I think I would: a) Learn as much as possible about the breed history and breed standards b) Talk to a breeders and attend a few dog shows to understand desirable traits and health issues c) Understand the objective metric assessments of a dam and sire, as well as the subjective and aesthetic qualities. When it comes to your own dogs, it is probably best to get other people to score them, since it is impossible for an owner to be fully objective. d) Understand health certifications and veterinary assessments, as well as your preparedness to deal with the medical contingencies of a full litter e) Thoroughly understand the whelping process f) Understand that a responsible dog owner is more important than even a responsible breeder. Well before you breed your dogs, start developing your litter placements leads. They HAVE to be responsible dog owners. Personally, since I wouldn't be doing this for the money, I would only place any pups with people I have some kind of pre-existing relationship or a trusted personal referral, and preferrably not first-time dog owners. The good news is that OES are such wonderful dogs, that they are relatively easy to place, so you'll are likely to get to choose several good owner candidates for them. g) schedule and plan a full year without vacations once the process starts!  |
| There have been some very good responses here. My strongest suggestion would be to find a "mentor" before you consider breeding. A mentor is someone who has been in the breed for several years, has been taught the ropes themselves by other mentors & is active in competition & either a regional specialty club or the national specialty club. The breeder you bought your pup from could very well be your mentor. But most importantly you need someone to teach you all that is involved in a breeding. You need to learn how to read & interpret pedigrees & this mentor would have seen & had their hands on the dogs in the pedigrees. They would be aware of health issues 4-5 generations (and more) back in these pedigrees. They would be someone who would give you constructive criticism on the dog you now have, explaining to you both the positive features & the negative features of your dog & what you need to find in a mate to improve on the negative features. You can't learn all this over night. I have had OES since 1985. I didn't start actively showing & competeing until 1997. I was very fortunate in all my OES dealings to have hooked up with honest people & in 1998 I connected with a lady who became my mentor. She taught me from sqaure one, one step at a time, so I would learn everything from the ground up. Her goal was for me to be able to mentor other people at some point in time. I did not become a "breeder" until 2003 when one of the girls I co-owned with her & that I had a big hand in showing to her AKC CH had her first litter of puppies. To this day I would not plan a breeding without discussing it at great length with her. And there have been times when I have suggested a breeding that she never thought of & when the litter was born it turned out very nice. One last thing to remember & I don't thnk I saw this mentioned yet.....when breeding please do it with the goal of bettering the breed & keep in mind that you should be ready to keep everyone of these puppies until the right home comes along or at anytime be prepared to take any of those puppies back, if need be, & either keep it yourself or rehome it yourself. A responsible breeder is responsible for every puppy they produce for the pups' entire life. |
| Do you have a contract with your breeder? Was the pup purchased as a show dog or pet? Most reputable breeders will have a spay/neuter clause in a pet contract. A show contract usually gives the breeder breeding rights, sometimes the buyer has some breeding rights as well but not always. Is the dog owned outright by you or is the breeder listed as co-owner? |
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