UTIs
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| yup sounds like a UTI
we have had our share of them with stella. A trip to the vet for antibiotics will take care of the problem. |
| Ask if you can just bring them a sample....this is what we usually do with Izzie. They can test for bacteria, blood in the urine or crystals which will tell them if there is an infection. Then they can prescribe antibiotics.
Izzie just got another infection last week. She peed or tried to pee many more times on her walks than usual. That is how we know she was sick again. |
| I hae been hemming and hawin about changing vets. ne of the three vts that used to be in our practice lef nd opened his own practice shortly after our service cut out emergency hours.
This forced me to call the new practicce and they are going t see her tomorrow afternoon - of corse they arebooked all week and I an't get the new puppy in on time for contract issues so he ill go on thursday tothe old vet and probabl to the new vet in two weeks for his last shots. Nothing is ever simple!! |
| You sound like me...
I was talking with the vet that does Oliver's hydrotherapy, and told him of all the different vets we go to: KSU for hips him for therapy One for the meds our regular vet doesn't have (or charges an arm and leg for) One for regular check-ups He called me a vet whore! |
| ^^^
with four dogs its probably the only way to go! |
Quote: Ask if you can just bring them a sample....this is what we usually do with Izzie.
Us too... we pick up a sterile cup, get the sample, drop it off, then pick up a prescription. It's best to get them on meds a soon as possible. With 6 females, we've been through it a time or two  |
| My dog did the same thing and naturally it was after all the vets were closed, so I had to take her to the emergency vet. They took a sample of what she had peed on the floor in the waiting room and checked it and said it was an infection and prescribed antibiotics and gave me a bill for $385. She seemed better after about 2 or 3 days, but at about 5 days after starting the treatment, she started doing the same thing all over again---squatting alot with very little urine comming out.
We took her to our vet and they discovered that she had bladder stones and needed surgery. They removed 30 to 40 stones of various sizes from her bladder and they said that if the emergency vet had removed urine from her bladder instead of taking it off the floor, they probably would have found out that she had stones in addition to the infection---it needs to be a sterile sample. The surgery, testing of the stones and medication cost us $1,750. She had struvite stones and they can be caused by repeated UTI infections. You might want to take her to the vet with a full bladder and have a sonogram done just to make sure that she doesn't have any stones. If they find them when they are small, they can flush them out instead of doing surgery. We take Sarah back every 3 to 4 months to be checked and will do this for the next year or so, just to make sure that she isn't making any more stones. We also give her suppliments now everyday to keep her urinary tract at the right PH. I don't know how common this is in OES. Our other two OES have never had a problem. Good luck and I hope Marley gets better soon. |
Quote: We also give her suppliments now everyday to keep her urinary tract at the right PH.
Oh my gosh... you're the first person who's written about struvite crystals. Can I ask what supplements you give? One of mine had bladder surgery in February of 2007 but it was to correct a persistent urachus... no UTIs in the past year so it was successful... but the struvite crystal problem remained. We give her an acidifier called Uroeze- 600mg to each meal. It helps to keep her ph at the right level. |
| Be sure to take a urine specimen with you to the Vet.
Tasker has had a couple UTI's so we are pros at "catching the pee". I have a very old Revere Ware suace pan I reserve for the occasion. We go for a walk and as soon as he has a good stream going I pop the pot under the pee  |
| I haven't seen Marley actually pee since saturday (except last night when I let her out of the car at puppy class to stretch her legs and didn't expect it.
SHe has always been very secretive about peeing but she has become a master! I suspect it might not be a UTI as it seems to be less of an issue now - but I need ot find out what the issue was. |
| Could it be she was simply marking?
Females will sometimes to this too, just like the boys. I don't want to dissuade you from having her checked though. |
| Hi 6girls,
I give Sarah a suppliment that I get from the vet called RESOURCES Canine Urinary Tract Support. She gets 3 pills twice a day with meals. I don't know if you can buy it somewhere else or if it has to be prescribed by vets only. The other thing that the vet explained to me is that struvite stones can form in dogs that do not drink enough water to flush their systems out and that it is very important to try to get extra fluid in them so that they go pee more often. Sarah has never been a big water drinker like her mother and her brother which is probably why we haven't had any problems with them so far. We feed our dogs boneless, skinless chicken breasts with their veggies at their evening meal and when we cook the chicken every few days, we aways add extra water for extra broth that we use to add to Sarah's morning and evening meals. We also had her on a special diet of boiled potatoes, fresh cooked black eyed peas and chicken for about 5 months after her surgery, but have since put her back on regular food. The most important thing that I have been told is that moist food is better than dry food for her. We just went back for another check-up today and they didn't see any new stones, but we have to wait 48 hours for the results of the culture they do of her urine. Hopfully she won't have any more problems. Hope this info helps. |
| Luna has jsut ben treated for her THIRD uti in the 3 months I've owned her. I'd wonder what I was doing wrong, except that her sister Tonks isn't having the same troubles.
My vet talked about testing for stones, and they did a sonagram the first time she had it, looking for stones. But it came back negative. |
| Marley did indeed test positive for a UTI. The vet said it is not unusual for a female to get one after her heat cycle (theory is it has to do with the estrogen levels)
thanks (as usual) for all the advice. I was able to get a sample using a disposable plastic plate just before we left for our appointment |
| What is the treatment, Kerry? |
| She was given an antibiotic shot with cortizone to reduce the inflammation.
She has (I think) a week of cefticylians (sp) to take and will be fine - no follow up appointment needed. The good thing was it got me to go to the new vet (actually a vet from our practice that started his own practice last month). Marley was so relaxed there she napped in the exam room between pop ins from the vet. I made the pups next appointment there (he has his initial appointment with our regular practice thursday per our contract). We'll be moving all the dogs to this practice. He has Saturday hours !!!! and does some emergancy coverage himself!!!!!!! Besides that the dogs love him and he is very supportive of raw feeding. |
| That sounds like a good plan. I'm beginning the search for a new vet, too. |
kerry - our vet has Saturday am hours, as well as covering 24hrs a day for emergencies. It is great!! You will love that part for sure. 
Sounds like a good switch for you and all the dogs. |
Darth Snuggle wrote: Luna has jsut ben treated for her THIRD uti in the 3 months I've owned her. I'd wonder what I was doing wrong, except that her sister Tonks isn't having the same troubles.
My vet talked about testing for stones, and they did a sonagram the first time she had it, looking for stones. But it came back negative. Izzie had multiple uti's when in her first year. She seems to have grown out of them for the most part. She has one right now, but I don't think she has had one for at least a year. |
| Glacier came to us with UTIs and stones. After clearing that up we put her on Solid Gold's Berry Blast which is a Vit. C, cranberry and blueberry supplement. After a container or two we weaned her off and she's not had trouble since.
It's always a good idea to get the urine test done, stop and get the sterile cup before going to the vet. That way you can bring it along at the appointment, or better yet, take it in earlier so the results are ready and waiting when you get there. Now......the trick is getting the cup under her while she's peeing....... 
Sticks taped to the cut and shoved under.........using a 1 qt. sauce pan that is clean...or has a plastic bag inside.........use your imagination. Of course the vet can take a sample directly by inserting a needle into the bladder and drawing out the fluid........Only time we tried that with MO she expressed her anal glads on the vet! |
| ^^^^
guess she got him back |
Quote: I give Sarah a suppliment that I get from the vet called RESOURCES Canine Urinary Tract Support. Quote: After clearing that up we put her on Solid Gold's Berry Blast which is a Vit. C, cranberry and blueberry supplement. After a container or two we weaned her off and she's not had trouble since. Thank you for this information. I like to know about other possible alternatives. Quote: The other thing that the vet explained to me is that struvite stones can form in dogs that do not drink enough water to flush their systems out and that it is very important to try to get extra fluid in them so that they go pee more often. Panda always drinks a lot of water... to the point we worried she was diabetic but it's not the case (negative on diabetes mellitus and her urine isn't dilute enough for diabetes insipidus). So I guess this is actually a good thing. Quote: We feed our dogs boneless, skinless chicken breasts with their veggies at their evening meal and when we cook the chicken every few days, we aways add extra water for extra broth that we use to add to Sarah's morning and evening meals. We cook a lot of meats too... chicken, different cuts of beef, pork, fish. Panda can't have much fruit or veggies or it throws her ph off and she'll pee in the house again. We also add some water to each of the girls' kibble (Eagle Pack Holistic Select) just before serving. Good luck with Sarah's most recent test. I hope the stones will be a gone for good! Quote: Now......the trick is getting the cup under her while she's peeing.......
I look like a lunatic trying to get urine samples. What the neighbors must think.  I take a stainless steel yard stick and tape the specimen cup on one end with packing tape. The cup is at about about a 45 degree angle. Then I follow the "donor" around the yard while she's on a lead. You play heck getting a sample after it snows unless you've shoveled first.
If anyone ever needs ph strips, these have worked well for us- http://www.ph-ion.com/index.asp?PageAct ... &ProdID=18 |
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