Are there breeds that prefer to be outside overall? |
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I guess it depends on the weather and the house
Sorry. |
I really can't see any dog wanting to be an outside dog all the time.
Dogs are pack animals and would rather be with their pack. JMO My dogs love being outside, but they spend the majority of the time inside. They have free access to the yard whenever they want with the dog door. But they prefer being with the family and where ever we are. |
I don't know that I've ever met a dog that didn't want to be with it's person. I suppose there may be some exceptions. |
I'm sure there are breeds that are more independent than sheepies, but being an "outside breed" doesn't mean they want to be outside and chained in a backyard. I know that my aunt's dog loves to be out in their yard for hours by herself. She constantly patrols the perimeter Lotti is a mixed breed, but is supposed to have some cattle dog in her or something. |
Yes there are some breeds bred to work outside nearly 24/7........such as livestock guardians. They are bonded to the flocks so they are really more socially aligned to the flock than to humans. Still the LGD's have human leadership, they are fed, groomed and trained by the humans. As a result, LGD's are carefully bred and evaluated to exclude aggression to all except predators.
A dog chained up is socially isolated resulting in a mentally unstable dog.......and one that can easily kill. That lady had no reason to have a dog. Why? How did she benefit from having something attached to a tree? And the dog.......how did he benefit........what a shame. |
barney1 wrote: Are there any breeds that 'prefer' to be outside? I was reading a thread on another website and this person says she got a call saying animal control took her dog. Slowly more comes out...the dog supposedly killed the neighbor's dog, then supposedly killed another 2 dogs. It was chained in the fenced backyard. So someone told her that dogs are safer indoors. And she says this breed prefers to be outside. Did the chained dog get loose? Otherwise, what were the other dogs doing in her yard with the chained dog? SheepieBoss wrote: Yes there are some breeds bred to work outside nearly 24/7........such as livestock guardians. They are bonded to the flocks so they are really more socially aligned to the flock than to humans. Still the LGD's have human leadership, they are fed, groomed and trained by the humans. As a result, LGD's are carefully bred and evaluated to exclude aggression to all except predators.
I was going to say the same thing but you said it better, Susan. I know there are a lot of Komondorok that work and live with the livestock all the time-- a lot more than you'd think even. People use them for anything from sheep to alpaca guarding. But, again, like Susan said, a working outside dog being cared for by its owners and a dog being chained to a tree outside all the time are two different things. Not to mention, dogs don't make the choices in a household-- it's up to the owners to do the right thing. Even if the dog does like being outside all the time, it isn't the responsible thing to do by leaving him out like that. My flippin' neighbor likes to use that argument for her two husky mixes which probably spend about 5 hours a week indoors. "They love being outside," she says. Really? They like being chained to a tree, in the mud, rain, snow and in their own filth? And do you think the neighborhood loves to hear the endless hours of barking and howling? Do you think I like having the one (fearful) dog in my yard at least one time a week that it slips its collar? Yup, sounds like a sweet predicament for the dogs. (The worst part is that this is a different neighbor than the one I used to have to call animal control on. Those people moved out and were replaced by new dog chainers. Argggggh!) |
Chaining a dog to anything all day everyday is extremely cruel. |
Yeah, I know there are dogs that are bred to work outside most of the time, but I was pretty much asking about pet breeds. Exactly the answer I thought I'd get. This lady says her dog is too big to be inside. I wanted to tell her that my 100 pound dog hasn't had any problems being an inside dog, but I didn't want to get into it. I think hers is a husky. |
I think that lady should get a battery operated dog. Come in many sizes and she can chain it anywhere she wants No socialization required, bark or wiggle with just a flick of a switch |
Quote: This lady says her dog is too big to be inside. I wanted to tell her that my 100 pound dog hasn't had any problems being an inside dog, but I didn't want to get into it. I think hers is a husky.
I can understand the husky shedding problem but if she cared she'd have the dog at the groomers or brushing him herself. She doesn't care. Obviously she puts more importance on her house than a living, feeling animal. |
We live in the country and a lot of dog owners here have the attitude that "it's just a dog." We see a lot of dogs chained to trees. I'd like to do the same thing to each and every one of those owners: chain them to a tree! |
My brother had a Norwegin Elkhound for many many years. Briggs was a GREAT dog with a thick dense coat. She was a "house" dog but was always begging to be let outside, and would spend every moment outside that she was allowed. Like the Huskies, when it snowed she would curl up in a ball and get buried in it. They also have an oil on thier coat that prevents them from getting wet. So I suppose they could be considered an "outside" dog. But Briggs always came in to sleep on my brothers bed. |
adonax wrote: We live in the country and a lot of dog owners here have the attitude that "it's just a dog." We see a lot of dogs chained to trees. I'd like to do the same thing to each and every one of those owners: chain them to a tree!
That's so interesting--the person who I'm talking about is from WV! |
The chained to a tree life was what happened to our coonhound Maggie for the 1st year of her life - in addition to the starving, beating......
She doesn't even have the benefit of a thick coat. And, this was in Wisconsin, which is a whole lot colder than WV. |
When I look through my dog breed book, several breeds are indicated as being 'outside' dogs or at least ones who prefer being outside rather than indoors.
I grew up with dogs chained in the back yard (and access to shade, shelter, clean water, food). I didn't like it but it was the norm 40 + years ago, at least where I lived. Eventually, my dad built kennels instead, which I also did not like. But make no mistake: my father loved his dogs very much. I saw tears in his eyes exactly twice while he was alive: once when my mother had a stroke at age 42 and the other time when a beagle (we had beagles when I was a kid) came up from a ditch on the side of the road and my father was unable to avoid hitting it. He checked the collar against the mailbox at the nearest farm house, and sadly, took the collar to the owners, and had to tell them that their dog was dead. Dogs roaming the countryside was simply the norm then. BTW, I also saw him split open his hand with an ax, cutting firewood for our campfire, and then pour alcohol into the gash before being driven off to the nearest hospital for stitches. No tears then. He was a real tough guy. But it was a different time and a different view of dogs and of the world. I think he thought we were a bit crazy and maybe even a little mean to keep our dogs inside with us. He thought dogs should be allowed to be dogs, not forced to be furry people. |
I can't understand why anyone would have an "outside" dog. Why get a dog if its just left outside, Chained to something or not. I had a Siberian Husky for 12yrs. He was a lovable goofball who loved to be outside. The colder the better. From all the hours he spent outside in the winter his coat was something to be feared when he shed. Every year he would go to the groomers for a bath and blowout. The groomers just shook their heads when we left with a clean and shedfree dog, they did a fantastic job with the blowout because we couldn't get even one hair out of him when they got done with him.
Gosh aren't puppies cute! It seems alot of people forget they grow into dogs and sometimes "big" dogs. Garfunkel had to be an adorable puppy because he is a adorable "dog". He was left in the garage after a year old because he got too big to be in the house after he "grew up". We have issues that we are dealing with because he was on his own for so long. Issues that have gotten much better with time and attention. This "too big for the house" dog sleeps in bed with me. |
I guess part of the "chained to a tree" problem is the simple fact that a lot of folks have never experienced what a true companion a dog can be.
I got very attached to all three of our OES as I'm sure I will to the next one. We own a business so our dogs go to work with us every day. Our last one, Riley, went with me to the mayor's office, the hardware store, my insurance agent's office, etc. and he was welcome everywhere I took him. He went virtually everywhere with us save those few places like doctor's offices and restaurants where dogs aren't allowed. He slept beside our bed every night. How could anyone chain a friend like that to a tree? |
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