Lanky OES x
She is an OES x Beardie. She is becoming quite 'leggy' and lanky, I know some breeds gain height first and then fill out after, does this happen with OES?? I just want to try to find out it this is the Beardie part of her parentage or if it is possible to be due to her age? |
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I don't know a thing about Beardies. But I think it's very normal for OES to get leggy first. We helped rehome one last year who is 1 yr old now and the leggiest guy I'd ever seen. This is a picture of him at 9/10 months old:
I always feared what it was going to be like when he grew into his legs and his tongue! |
| My OES is all height... very leggy |
| I've seen that beardies are shorter than sheepies. |
| Beardies are smaller and "rectangular" through the body where OES are supposed to be "square".
Are you sure she's really a OES/Beardie mix? Looks like an OES, except we're not used to many OES with tails here in the US. Regardless, she's a cutie! |
| Flossie still looks like she has less leg than an OES of similar age. That would be consistant with the OES/Beardie cross.
Whatever the case, she is a cute girl.  |
| Thanks for all the advice!
Yes she is much smaller than a OES of the same age, she is coming on 5 months now and weights 10.7kg, she puts on a kilo each week, well she has since we've had her. We do love her very much and will do no matter how she turns out, it's just interesting to get a gage on where she is! I've always thought she was like a mini OES with a tail. Friends and family have been commenting on how leggy she got recently, but I guess it is just a growth spurt!  |
| Are you sure she's really a OES/Beardie mix? Looks like an OES, except we're not used to many OES with tails here in the US.
She ended up in a rescue centre as her owner took her and her siblings to be put to sleep 2 days before christmas, they were all under weight, had worms, fleas, anemic- due to the sheer amount of fleas which then caused heart murmurs, all of which are now cured, thankfully! I think if he didn't know the parents he wouldn't bother making anything up or guessing as don't think he really cared.....the vet took them to the rescue where I got her from. Plus I have lots of OES owners stop me and presume she is all OES, and Beardie owners also stop me and say they can either see she is a Beardie mix or they ask if she is a Beardie or not, so I guess to those that know each breed can see it in her the only other breed guess I've ever had was once someone asked if she was a collie as in boarder collie. |
Flossiesmum wrote: Thanks for all the advice!
Yes she is much smaller than a OES of the same age, she is coming on 5 months now and weights 10.7kg, she puts on a kilo each week, well she has since we've had her. We do love her very much and will do no matter how she turns out, it's just interesting to get a gage on where she is! I've always thought she was like a mini OES with a tail. Friends and family have been commenting on how leggy she got recently, but I guess it is just a growth spurt! Actually, that's really not ridiculously small for a female OES at that age. In American terms, that's almost a 24 pound 5 month old, which is probably hovering below the normal range but some people have 50 pound adult dogs that are all OES. Who knows? She's adorable, though! |
| Oh, that is quite interesting ^. Thanks for the info!
I've always seen huge OES, and read about them growing to 100lbs +!! 
but recently noticed some smaller ones and wondered if they had some more growing to do. It is really nice to get an idea of where she is compared to full OES. I'm pleased,  even though I'll love her no matter what, I do like the chunky breeds and would be secretly pleased if she did grow up to be just like an OES but on the smaller side!! She could be like my 'starter' OES, to prepare me for one day getting a full sized OES! 
I was offered another rescue puppy, same age as Flossie, but a boy and a full breed OES, but after some careful thought, decided one puppy at a time! |
Flossiesmum wrote: Oh, that is quite interesting ^. Thanks for the info!
I've always seen huge OES, and read about them growing to 100lbs +!! Lol. If you want to see a 100+ pound OES, just click on my camera. I'm sure not one of those people with a 50 pounder! |
ButtersStotch wrote: Flossiesmum wrote: Oh, that is quite interesting ^. Thanks for the info! I've always seen huge OES, and read about them growing to 100lbs +!! Lol. If you want to see a 100+ pound OES, just click on my camera. I'm sure not one of those people with a 50 pounder! You don't have pictures of Daisy do you  BTW Flossiesmum, I was reading a groomers forum and one of the posters said she had groomed a 180lb OES  . Jill and I got a good laugh from that one |
Hi,
I took the liberty of posting Flossie's pic..she looks 100% sheepie to me. For the first year they grow "up" then the second year they grow "out" - becoming stockier and broader in the chest. Some may stay diminutive and small like my previous OES girl Shaggy. People often asked if she was a beardie due to her size but she was 100% sheepie. I always wanted to tell you how much I also love that bathtub photo of Flossie! You guys should check out Flossie's mom photo icon! Marianne |
| The other day I was at the chiro vet's office and as I went to pay my bill after, the vet warned me "there's this chihuahua out there". It sounded like a "just so you know and don't let Mad step on the poor little tyke"
Well, the "chihuahua" was the biggest Great Dane I have ever seen. (My vet has the most peculiar sense of humor ) Though his legs were probably longer than mine, I can't say he was leggy...He outweighed me by quite a bit and I kid you not when I say I've seen smaller ponies. MUCH smaller ponies. All was fine until his owner got nervous about him wanting to approach Mad. I said "she's fine, how about your boy?" "Eh, well..."
Whoosh! I had Mad behind the counter and almost on the receptionist's lap. He could have eaten both of us and still asked for more. I don't want to imagine what it's like to live with anything that big. I've never seen an Irish Wolfhound that big. Yikes! The Beardie part of the mix, if any, shouldn't be attributing to legginess. To the contrary, like Nita said, they are a rectangular dog. I'd be more apt to expect them to contribute to a long-backed "OES" (by OES standards).It's true that OES fill out later, but they don't typically get particularly leggy. Are you sure it's not an optical illusion? Kristine |
Marianne wrote: I took the liberty of posting Flossie's pic..she looks 100% sheepie to me. For the first year they grow "up" then the second year they grow "out" - becoming stockier and broader in the chest. Some may stay diminutive and small like my previous OES girl Shaggy. People often asked if she was a beardie due to her size but she was 100% sheepie. I always wanted to tell you how much I also love that bathtub photo of Flossie! You guys should check out Flossie's mom photo icon! Marianne Thanks for putting her photos up and thanks for the comments and advise, she does look funny in the bath, like a little rat when she's wet! and she gives me such a look, that I end up feeling guilty for bathing her! She gets her own back though, as soon, as I mean straight away, once she has been dried she cries to go out side as if she is dying to get out, then once she's out she rolls in as much mud as possible, once she feels she is suitably dirty she come in ad give me a look as if to say 'that'll teach you' lol
bestdogsx4: My goodness, a 180lb!! That is massive!! Imagine having him/her sitting on the sofa with you!
Mad dog: I've seen some big Danes before, but none that were as big as the one you encountered sounds! They are usually quite nice tempered though, quite doppey, never heard of one being naughty before I would have pooped my pants to meet one that big and not friendly!
Your story reminds me of a chihuahua I met a while ago, it was the size of a king charles!! I asked poliety was she was crossed with and commented on how sweet natured she was the owner was not impressed, I got a response of 'she's a pure bred, not a cross, and she is pedigreed' I think I upset the owner  Although it looked like a chewy, it was huge |
Kristine, you never told us if you stepped on the chihuahua?!?!
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| My first OES, Merlin, was pretty good in conformation, with the very square proportions an OES is supposed to have. Archie is leggy and leaner (and not much of an eater, which contributes, but he has a lean frame, rather than a square one) and taller. I was shocked that Sherman is even leggier than Archie, although a much bigger eater. He's tall and on the lean side, build wise. He likes food more than Archie and so he won't be so skinny. Sophie is petite--much shorter and much finer boned. |
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