YouTube video of tail docking
docked on YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=euVo3idmIl4 While I am personally opposed to the practice (mostly because I like tails and can't think of any reason other than a selfish *human* cosmetic preference to do it), I have NO INTEREST whatsoever in seeing the practice banned by law. Dogs might suffer temporarily during the procedure, but the docked dog population is obviously healthy, showing no long term traumas. And they are dogs after all: their sole existence and raison d'etre is to pleasure humans. So when it comes to cruelty, I think there are much more important battles around to pick from. What I do wish would happen is for American OES owners to have the OPTION of raising, enjoying, and showing tailed dogs. Right now, the intact tail ban is not coming from the government, but institutionally self-imposed by the North American breed standards. To this day, I have yet to see a tailed OES live, but we know they exist because we've see them on YouTube! So the American tailed sheepie lovers are being institutionally oppressed and discriminated against by the AKC. So there!  |
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My 2 have tails and proud of it.  |
ej wrote: My 2 have tails and proud of it.
Yeah, sometimes I feel a little sorry for my Peppo. Once in a while he seems to suffer from "tail envy" at the dogpark.  |
Quote: And they are dogs
after all: their sole existence and raison d'etre is to pleasure humans. I must say that I totally disagree with this statement. Dogs have their own lives to live and it is up to us, as guardians, to ensure thier happiness and well-being. They do not exist for us anymore than men do for women, or vice versa. And I love my Bosley's tail....and my Dixie's tailless butt! |
Bosley's mom wrote: Quote: And they are dogs after all: their sole existence and raison d'etre is to pleasure humans. I must say that I totally disagree with this statement. Dogs have their own lives to live and it is up to us, as guardians, to ensure thier happiness and well-being. They do not exist for us anymore than men do for women, or vice versa. And I love my Bosley's tail....and my Dixie's tailless butt! After years of logic training I feel I have to point out this is probably not a valid comparison. man has not specifically bred another species - woman- for most of history to his specifications. |
| I dont know whether or not this was in a vet practice, although it didnt look like it, but at our practice when we do tails (rarely) and dewclaws, the pups always get a local block with licodcaine and bicarb so that they dont feel a thing. This pup was almost screaming. I also must say that we would also tie off the tail and clip and prep the area surgically and use a scalpel blade not twist it off. I must say there is definitely a more appropriate and less painful way of docking a tail. Both mine dont have tails and I am afraid for how they got taken off since I dont know. I do know though that we had a client not too long ago come in with a newly purchased pup whom the breeder had docked the tail and had simply used a rubber band and then cut it off non surgically and glue the wound shut. It was horrible. I think tails are beautiful but I am not opposed to docking them if done properly. |
OES4ever wrote: I dont know whether or not this was in a vet practice, although it didnt look like it, but at our practice when we do tails (rarely) and dewclaws, the pups always get a local block with licodcaine and bicarb so that they dont feel a thing. This pup was almost screaming. I also must say that we would also tie off the tail and clip and prep the area surgically and use a scalpel blade not twist it off. I must say there is definitely a more appropriate and less painful way of docking a tail. Both mine dont have tails and I am afraid for how they got taken off since I dont know. I do know though that we had a client not too long ago come in with a newly purchased pup whom the breeder had docked the tail and had simply used a rubber band and then cut it off non surgically and glue the wound shut. It was horrible. I think tails are beautiful but I am not opposed to docking them if done properly.
In all fairness, the pup was screaming bloody murder just at being handled. I didn't think it was that much louder even at the point of the crop. He seemed happy to just be put down. |
| When my Boxer pups were docked, about 13 years ago...
They clamped, cut and stitched, it look less than 30 seconds per pup. No twisted involved.... thank god!! 
I would have been on the floor passed out. |
| Here is a video of pups being banded... not traumatic at all in my opinion.
http://www.cdb.org/video/video.htm |
Willowsprite wrote: Here is a video of pups being banded... not traumatic at all in my opinion.
http://www.cdb.org/video/video.htm Thanks for the interesting video; but it is clearly a manipulative piece of pro-docking propaganda. You can tell by their choice of background music -- the lovely, ethereal 2nd movement from Mozart's Piano Concerto in C -- makes it seem like it is something you'd do between sips of tea and biscuits! Otherwise, I'm a little confused because it didn't seem like the banded puppies tails had fallen off at the end of the video. How does the banding procedure actually work? The device releases a tight latex band on the tail, and once gangrene and necrosis of the tail tissue sets in, the end portion of the tail will just fall off? |
Cadenza wrote: once gangrene and necrosis of the tail tissue sets in, the end portion of the tail will just fall off? Yeah, just like those pesky tied umbilical cords humans have. |
| The tails shrivel, dry up, and fall off, usually within 2 days. |
The breeder of one of my puppies just put rubber bands around base of tail,but left a bigger stump than it should have.  |
| My first OES had one of the most horrendous tail docking ever. I ended up having more surgery on him twice......
My first litter I had the vet in Ct. a very WELL RESPECTED breeder vet do our tails. She cut and twisted....... now I have been a L&D nurse for 30 years, and this almost did me in........ but she told me to stand there, hold that pup and suck it up. I brought it into the world and I ws responsible for it. She was right. Now I have been in the position of teahing my vets here in Colorado how to dock tails...... I love the way they were done back there. I hve never had one banded that I know of, but am asking my friend to teach me next litter......... The pupies cry when they are handled. It does not hurt them if the tails are done before they are 3 days old........ this has been a proven fact, and they also don't remember back then............. And Ron your right, it IS just like doing umbilical cords, or circumcision. I have YET to find one male that remembers being circumcised............. lol. |
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