Vaccine Workshop/Alpharetta, GA
Canine Vaccine Workshop with Dr. Ron Schultz Saturday, March 29, 2008, 9 am - 4 pm Hilton Garden Inn, 10975 Georgia Lane , Alpharetta , Georgia 30022 Registration fee: $50 (pre-registration required) A vegetarian boxed lunch from Whole Foods will be available for an additional $10. . Dr. Ronald Schultz; Professor and Chair, Department of Pathobiological Sciences; School of Veterinary Medicine University of Wisconsin-Madison What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines and Vaccination Programs Saturday, March 29, 2008 in Alpharetta , GA Are you vaccinating your animals too much? Not enough? Wondering what's the "right" vaccine protocol and why? Concerned about adverse reactions? Confused about titers? Come hear Dr. Schultz, the co-investigator (with Dr. JeanDodds) for the Rabies Challenge project, speak on the canine immune system, types of vaccines and the immune response, AAHA Guidelines for Core and Optional Vaccines, risk vs. benefit assessment, adverse reactions and antibody tests. Dr. Schultz, who has more than 35 years' experience in the field of immunology, is Professor and Chair of the Department of Pathobiological Sciences at the School of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He has been a driving force behind many of the recent changes in vaccine recommendations made by the American Animal Hospital Association and the World Small Animal Veterinary Association. Previous workshop attendees report Dr. Schultz' workshop as a must-see for all dog enthusiasts, including competitors, therapy dog handlers, trainers, shelter workers, veterinarians, veterinary technicians, and rescue volunteers. Registration deadline: Friday, March 8, 2008. Profits from this event will go to Dr. Schultz' vaccine research at the University of Wisconsin , with a small stipend to the American Bouvier Rescue League, a 501(c )(3) non-profit. For a registration form and more information, http://www.bouvier.org/ABRL/ABRL%20Schu ... %20Reg.pdf |
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| All I want to know, does Peppo really need a third dose of pup vaccines? As someone who's had myself twice serious adverse reactions to vaccines, I'm very worried about vaccine reactions. |
| huh; I might be interested in this. |
Calling Zach  If you go can you summarize for us? Too far away for me  |
Cadenza wrote: All I want to know, does Peppo really need a third dose of pup vaccines? As someone who's had myself twice serious adverse reactions to vaccines, I'm very worried about vaccine reactions.
That's a tough one. I honestly don't know the answer. Wish I could attend this talk, but GA is too far. Ironically, Dr Schultz is just down the road. I need to pay attention to see if he's giving any talks locally. Personally - and that's just me, layperson - I don't really agree with the repeated shots we do as part of the puppy series. I think we start vaccinating too young just to make ourselves feel better, and it's often at an age where the vaccine has no effect anyway because there's interference from mom's antibodies. Isn't that why we keep boostering? To try to make sure we finally get it right? So if Peppo's shots were at an early age, the third dose might be necessary in the sense that that's the one that actually has an effect. Boggles the mind, doesn't it? I may take a different approach to this in the future. Whatever you do, don't let your vet talk you into giving rabies on top of his last boosters just to save you a trip or whatever. Well, you probably know this already. Better to at least split the vaccinations up as best you can. Kristine |
| Cadenza,
You need to take time, read and get informed. You need to make your own decisions about vaccines after reading info from the experts. We can't do that for you. If we give you advice on what we think and we're wrong because we don't have enough info on with your individual situation your animals could be at risk. If you want to know how I feel about what I am hoping to do in the future with my dogs, this is a pretty close example. "My dog Splash was vaccinated for DHP at 8 & 12 weeks, Rabies at 16 weeks, and DHP Rabies again at one year. I am through vaccinating. Splash goes to the Clinic with me weekly where he is potentially exposed to parvo and distemper. We go on 25 mile horseback rides through the woods where there are skunks and bats. I feel confident he is protected for life". Dr Bob Rogers Zach |
| Here's the link:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/frogholler ... lanco.html Zach |
| Cadenza-
Here is a group that could probably answer all your questions: TruthAboutVaccines@yahoogroups.com |
| Mad Dog,
Thank you for posting this! Dr. Schultz is one of the world's leading authorities on canine vaccines -- he has been conducting challenge studies on canine vaccines since the 1970's -- click on this link http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm to read his paper, Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know. Dr. Schultz's challenge and serological studies also form a significant part of the scientific base for the American Animal Hospital Association's 2003 and 2006 Canine Vaccine Guidelines, and his research on feline vaccines is part of the scientific base for the American Association of Feline Practitioners' Feline Vaccine Guidelines. Currently, Dr. Schultz is conducting the 5 and 7 year challenge studies on the canine rabies vaccine for The Rabies Challenge Fund. His seminar will be extremely enlightening, I highly encourage anyone interested in this subject who lives close enough to attend to sign up. Kris |
zach wrote: "My dog Splash was vaccinated for DHP at 8 & 12 weeks, Rabies at 16 weeks, and DHP Rabies again at one year. I am through vaccinating. That sounds good for me from a risk management point of view. I personally have decided that I will only take a particular vaccine if there is an epidemic of a particular disease. I suspect healthy dogs must have an incredibly robust cell-mediated immune system, and the least we mess with it, the better. Vaccine education is important. From a public health point of view a number of drug companies exert enormous pressure and lobbying to make government and health institutions adopt their product as a standard protocol regimen. (That's actually something that's happening with the current licensed anthrax vaccine, being forcibly administered to our armed forces. Some soldiers are willing to face court-martial rather than take it.) With more lax rules from USDA (vs. the FDA), I'm sure veterinarians face the same amount of lobbying. |
Kris L. Christine wrote: Currently, Dr. Schultz is conducting the 5 and 7 year challenge studies on the canine rabies vaccine for The Rabies Challenge Fund.
That's a great study, simple and to they point. I suspect the reason why it hasn't been done yet is because Rabies vaccine manufacturers don't want it done. If 5- and 7-year challenge studies prove protection against rabies after a single innoculation, veterinary vaccination protocols will have to change, and there will be no more of this annual rabies shot nonsense. |
| The USDA does not require veterinary vaccine manufacturers to provide long-term duration of immunity studies in order to license their products. All they have to demonstrate is that the product confers immunity for as long as the label states. That is why 3 year rabies vaccines are sometimes relabeled as a 1 year vaccine. (If you click on this link http://www.calmanimalcare.com/vaccine.htm , you will be taken to the Calm Animal Care website, which has posted Colorado State University's Small Animal Vaccination Protocol for its veterinary teaching hospital. In their protocol, it states: Even with rabies vaccines, the label may be misleading in that a three year duration of immunity product may also be labeled and sold as a one year duration of immunity product.)
Because there is no financial incentive for vaccine manufacturers to finance long-term duration of immunity studies which could result in decreased sales of their products, no long-term published rabies challenge studies exist in the U.S. That is precisely why The Rabies Challenge Fund was founded and the dog-owning public is financing the 5 & 7 year challenge studies that Dr. Schultz is conducting. The studies are being conducted according to USDA vaccine licensing standards (which are what current rabies immunization laws are based upon), and if the studies are able to replicate the 1992 French challenge studies demonstrating a minimum of 5 year DOI, the science will be available so that individiual state can extend their booster requirements. The same will be true if the 7 year challenge is successful. |
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