Incessant bell ringing!
My concern is the fact that he rings it soooo often. He obviously does not need to pee that much - he'll often go out and just lay down in the snow. I have tried to ignore it when I think he doesn't have to "go", but he'll just keep ringing and ringing, and then eventually come and bark at me. He is extremely persistent and won't stop until I let him out. Is there an effective way that I can phaze out the unnecessary bell ringing? Or should I just lie in the bed I have made for myself and continue to let him out every time he rings???? |
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I completely understand.  Frankie taught us about the bell...he's so smart. But he then started to use it as tool to get a toy away from Daphne. He would ring the bell to go out, I would get up and all dogs would follow me, Frank would then get the coveted toy. I"ve watched his facial expression when he is scheming.  I now know when he is using the bell or abusing the bell. That was then....Now Frank is 2 yrs old and only occasionally rings the bell ever so gently to get attention. He mostly only rings it to distract Daphne or Daisy. He is a bugger. But sooo smart. I think you know if he has to go out, and if he is ringing it for play ignore that. Only take him out when you know he has to go. Because, if it were me (and Tucker was still pretty young...under 6 months) and he went out without potty then that means back in the crate until next outside potty time. |
Sorry, but I always laugh when folks come on here asking how to train their dog to ring a bell to go out...  Or how to teach the dog to scratch at the door to go outside... I know exactly what is going to happen...Sounds like a good idea at the time, but then it gets kind of old... And the dogs are only doing what they have been trained to do....and they do it extremely well!
What I would do is remove the bell. If it isn't there it cannot be rung. If possible put the dog out a different door, and/or put a chair in front of the door they are used to go out of, so they don't scratch it to go out. My dogs do not tell me when to open the door for them to go out. I put them out when I feel it is time. Just like I feed them and groom them and play with them when I decide it is time... Poor Bosley will just stand there with his head against the door waiting patiently for it to magically open... This way when I ask them if they want to go out, the answer is always "yes"....Same thing to come in. I decide when it is time, not them, so when the door opens they come running in.
An adult dog can be left alone for 8 hours in a work day, so there is no need for a dog to go potty every couple of hours when the family is home. Mine go out morning, after school, after supper and before bed. If they get frisky and start to rough-house inside the house I might send them outside to wear off their energy or I might just separate them. |
| He'll probably grow out of it. Just let him out when you're pretty sure he has to go, otherwise, just ignore it. Our bell is just loud enough to hear from the living room so it isn't extra annoying-- maybe switch to smaller bells? I don't know what we'd do without the bells. I fall asleep on the couch a lot at night so the bell is like a last call for me to get up, let the dogs out and go to bed! |
| Thanks for the tips. I would like to keep the bell there because I do find it extremely helpful - especially in the times when he has a bad belly and needs to go out a little more often (which happens time to time after he drinks his water too fast). I try not to just jump up and let him out, but I acknowledge to him I have heard him (Ok, Outside Tucker) and then take my time getting there. I will try to ignore ones I am not at least 75% sure are for going pee, and hopefully he will learn that he doesnt get to go out any ol'time he feels like it. I suppose it will just be another learning period, whereby I may go nuts hearing the bell and trying to ignore it and his b arking, but hopefully he'll catch on and it will be worth it. |
| this is what i wanted to do HELP HELP HELP i have a book that mentions how to teach this, but coming from sheepie OWNERS i would like to know how ya;ll went about it. he's soooo young - 12 weeks next week. can i start now???? |
| I prefer a doggie door. |
TeraluvsBeckett wrote: this is what i wanted to do HELP HELP HELP i have a book that mentions how to teach this, but coming from sheepie OWNERS i would like to know how ya;ll went about it. he's soooo young - 12 weeks next week. can i start now????
Yes! You can start now! I started with Tucker when he was 6 1/2 weeks and I'd say he had it down pat in about a month or so. If you search on this forum you will find a lot of information about bell ringing, but here it is in a nutshell: 1. Hang a bell from the door and make sure to ring it every time you open the door. 2. Any time the pup shows the least bit of interest in the bell, reward and praise him very much. Open the door. 3. Next, shape the behaviour so that you gradually increase your expectations. After a few days, simply showing interest in the bell isn't enough, he must somehow touch it. Reward and open door. After a while, he must touch it with his nose/paw. Reward and open door. Then he must ring it loud enough to hear. Reward and open door. It will take a little bit of time for him to understand the correlation, but like I said, Tucker picked this up very quickly and it was extremely helpful in our house training. He was housetrained younger than any pup I've heard of (he was having only maybe 2-3 accidents a week at 3 months or so), and I really think it was because of the bell. Good luck and keep us posted! |
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