Sheepie/Mastiff X in BC

While checking Craigs List I came across this ad. Wish I wasn't already over my limit. He seems like a sweet boy.

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pet/547781163.html

This boy is located in the burbs just outside of Vancouver, BC
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Wow, how cute is this big guy?! I hope he finds a wonderful home.
marianne,
Did you contact this person & tell her "free to a good home" is a bad idea?
Hi Sue,

I did leave a message yesterday and hope it's not too late as the post had been up for a day already.

For those of you wondering why it's a bad idea listing pets for free.
They may get into the wrong hands.
Psych test usually tell you if you get something "free" you don't value it as much as something that cost $. The owner may want the dog to be rehomed and once meeting a potential new owner may feel the person is wonderful they can then make the decision but should never place "free" in their ad.
Free dogs can end up in dog fighting rings as either bait or made to fight. Many people think but my dogs not the type they would use. Some dogs are thrown in to get the dogs in a frenzy before the actual fights...thus bait. It's horrible to think about but people have to know what goes on.

People need to do home checks and reference checks and not allow someone to come to their home and pick up their dog. The people associated with the dog fighting rings purposely choose woman many times to go pick up the dogs.

I'll keep trying to call. I wish our sheepie rescue up here got involved with mixes. I'll let you know what happens.

Marianne
Good thing I'm not near you! What's not to love, size, hair that will be a blessing to maintain........ah, oh well. Beds have no more room for another dog.
He's gorgeous, love his eyes.
Any other potential rescues in the area?
Ooooooh... big dogs :D
What a sweet boy.
I hope he finds a wonderful home.
Hi,

Called the owner and had a long conversation with her regarding her boy. He was a rescue from an illegal drug house as a pup. The mom died when he was only 5 wks old. (mom was a Mastiff)

His personality is definately sheepie..hip checks, pulls on leash, velcro dog, ect...(His dad was a sheepie).

Luckily, she has been swamped with calls and is meeting a couple (who sound nice) at a park tomorrow. Her idea - as she wants to see how they would handle him , then go back to their house for home check. (So she's aware of potential dog fighting rings).

Reason she is parting with him is her elder dog is 11 and suffering from very bad hips and Boston continously pounces. She feels it's not fair to the older dog as this one is too rough.

I did leave my number with her so that any potential owners can also contact me for additional info regarding sheepdogs.

Lets cross our fingers he goes to a good responsible home.
Oh no!

I checked my messages yesterday and saw the owner had called me four times. Her last message sounded as if she'd been crying. None of those people showed up and now she's panicked as she's moving next week. Next week!

Sadly the one rescue for sheepies in our area (they are still rare up here) only take purebreds so think they only get 1 sheepie every couple years or something.

I said I'd try to help her out regarding a rescue up here as our SPCA is a high kill facility. I wish I had room for him.
Oh, no.

I wish I had some room: My daughter (who is a college student, but only lives 4 blocks away) has wanted a mastiff for years--and of course, grew up with OES, so he'd be perfect for us/her.

We're quite a ways, too: SE Minnesota

Keep us posted. We can't let him be destroyed.
I live in New Westminster, BC and wonder if I can help this dog ?

We don't have a sheepie but have a 9 month standard poodle pup and a miniature poodle. So far, all our efforts to find a rescue/rehome in our area have been in vain.Recently tried the petfinder classifieds but the supposed sheepie rehome in Oregon was actually an attempt at a bidding war. Yuck !

We have fostered before so if you think we could help please e-mail.
Now , I can get e-mail.
Hi,

I just emailed you Kat via your home addy. Sorry not logged on at this time.

Marianne
he's not on craigs list anymore?
Hi,

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this for an update. I've been sick over this whole thing. I spoke with the owner a few times and mailed everyone I knew regarding this boy.

I had desperately wanted to go over and do an assessment of him, but our city was hit with several snowstorms. I couldn't get over to where she was as it would have meant travelling over the bridge which I didn't want to do in a snowstorm. I thought I'd have more time to try again.

The post said he was friendly to people and other dogs. However, he was returned by some potential adopters that brought him home with them. I'm not sure of the full details of the story as from what the owner said on my machine was this woman picked him up and then her boyfriend came over with his dog and the two dogs fought. They tried to separate them and got bitten as a result and so then returned him to the owner. The owner was upset and blamed the dog.

I can possible read a few things that may have gone wrong ...were both dogs neutered..intact? Where did the meeting take place..in the home..or outside? What kind of dog was the other dog?

Those questions remained unanswered and she never replied to my questions. He did live with another dog in his home so perhaps he wasn't dog aggressive but may only have been to this new dog? I don't know what to think as she didn't appear to be dog savy at all.

The owner often did the Alpha Roll with him and blamed the dog for misbehaving and ruining his chances of getting a nice home. I found this out from another person that was interested in him and recently joined our forum and found out more about this boy through her conversations with the owner.

In the end, the owner took him to the SPCA. I will keep tabs on him and I pray his assesment turns out okay as they will hold him for 6 days before placing him for adoption. He's not been listed yet.

I wish I could have taken him in as he sounds like he had many of the same issues Panda did before arriving at my home. I have the time and energy but sadly am over my limit of dogs.

She had him since he was five weeks old and now at a year old she blamed him for his behavior. I'm heartbroken this boy didn't have the chance he needed.
Marianne, don't beat yourself up over this.

A pup that leaves its litter before 8 weeks old has its cards stacked up against him, so are often dog-aggressive.
I had a dog that was awful with all dogs, except for my own dogs. The siblings don't count, in assessing whether a dog is good with dogs or not. I am trying to place a rotti right now, who lived with a dog, but goes nuts when she sees any other dog, now.

A lot of work at doggy socializing in the first 20 weeks of this dog's life could have helped. And as fo the alpha rolls, well, that would just put the dog on the defensive and loose all trust in people.

You did not fail this dog...noone who cares about dogs did. Unfortunately it was the people who allowed his litter to happen, not do the responsible thing and ensure them all a good home, and the owner who did not properly educate themselves about dogs and thier needs.

Hugs Marianne...They can't all be saved...Very depressing indeed.
Hi Nicole,

I have beaten myself up over this. I know logically we can't save them all, but emotionally it's harder to deal with.

Thanks for your words it was very much appreciated.

Marianne
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