Can't walk her on a lead...

Hi, I am a newbie, but have been the mom of a sheepie for almost a year now. We love Sweet Maisey-Blue, and got her from a wonderful breeder. Lately though, we've been having some issues and was wondering if I could get some advice.
What is the best large breed dog food for a sheepie?
(Right now she is on Blue Buffalo Lg Breed Puppy)
How do I stop her from walking me? (I broke down and bought a choke chain, but do not like to use it because I think she is gonna crush her neck)
How do I get her from jumping up to meet people?
Any advice would be great and THANKS!!
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These seem like all my permanent questions. Not sure about food as in the Uk it is different. Summer is 7 months old and is on Burns at the moment. She was pulling when we walked but I put her car harness on and attached the lead to that and she has stopped. Another way is when she pulls you stand stock still and don't speak when dog has stopped pulling and looks at you you carry on walking, when she pulls stop again. This worked with our other old sheepie but not with this one. Another way is to change direction when they pull it makes you look strange but confuses them enough to make them stop pulling and wonder where they are actually going.
Jumping up is what we are trying to stop ours doing. At training class the teacher grabs her front paws and holds on to them after a few seconds Summer whimpers and she lets go and then she doesnt pull for rest of session. We do this at home and she wags her tail because she trusts us and thinks we are just holding hands! :roll:
We are working on the jumping up with Tucker, too, although he does it mostly just at home. So far we are just turning our backs to him and completely ignoring him when he jumps, and then treating and praising him when he has all four paws on the floor (treat for "four on the floor"). Although so far he just takes the back turning as a challenge and will actually jump up at your back!! I, too, am looking for more effective ways of curbing this behaviour.
For pulling on lead.......a halter or gentle leader (there are topics on these).

For jumping.......As soon as I see her getting ready to jump, I turn.

Good luck and keep us posted.
There are lots of posts on what type of food to feed and I think there is a sticky in the medical section. So, you might want to read that, too. Lots of good info.
Welcome to the forum! Val and Tammy said it all! Good luck. :wink:
Mel & Tucker wrote:
Although so far he just takes the back turning as a challenge and will actually jump up at your back!! I, too, am looking for more effective ways of curbing this behaviour.


Have you tried keeping your pup on a leash in the house and just standing on it when he goes to jump? It helped with Maggie.
Thanks, there is so much information in this site, it is hard to filtre it all!!! So, a gentle lead is the best?!? One employee at the pet store told me maybe I should try a prong collar. It looks positively barbaric!! I also want to know if anyone is located in Northern Ontario? I bought Maisey-Blue in the States because I could not find a breeder around here. My issue is that my vet has never seen an OES before!!! To be truthful I had never seen one before either, but I am not totally sure Maize is getting the best care. I asked how big she was going to get and he told me "around 45-50 lbs"...when I told him her mom was 85lbs, he said she sounded like an obese dog... I kinda get the feeling he is one of those people that stand by their ignorance....Miss Blue is now 65 lbs, and far from obese...Lean and still growing.... Also wanted to maybe set up a playdate?!?
Where, more specifically, in Ontario are you? I'm in the Ottawa Valley - are you really Northern?

As for keeeping a leash on Tucker - he is 9 1/2 months old and at least 65 lbs (which, by the way, is supposed to be how much they weigh at this age - that vet needs to even just open a breed book or go to a single website to learn that much), so if he has a leash on I feel like I'm just yanking his giant body by his throat...[/quote]
Sudbury Area...Where did you buy Tucker? Is there breeders around here? I gotta tell you around here, there are Labrador Retrievers, Rotty's, the occasional German Shepherd and 1 other OES that I know of.... And I only found that out recently. I think it would be cool if Maisey had a chum that matched her in size and energy...
Maisey's Mama wrote:
Thanks, there is so much information in this site, it is hard to filtre it all!!! So, a gentle lead is the best?!? One employee at the pet store told me maybe I should try a prong collar. It looks positively barbaric!! I also want to know if anyone is located in Northern Ontario? I bought Maisey-Blue in the States because I could not find a breeder around here. My issue is that my vet has never seen an OES before!!! To be truthful I had never seen one before either, but I am not totally sure Maize is getting the best care. I asked how big she was going to get and he told me "around 45-50 lbs"...when I told him her mom was 85lbs, he said she sounded like an obese dog... I kinda get the feeling he is one of those people that stand by their ignorance....Miss Blue is now 65 lbs, and far from obese...Lean and still growing.... Also wanted to maybe set up a playdate?!?


I'd get another vet. It's obvious wrong info that he gave you that easily could have been looked up on the akc website! If he can't even do that, what else isn't he doing? You do want someone who can give your girl the best possible health care and have, if even a small amount, understanding of possible breed issues.
Thanks all!!! I think this is a wonderful tool for dog owners...Who knows better than those who own and love the breed best!
Thanks again!!
Mel & Tucker wrote:
so if he has a leash on I feel like I'm just yanking his giant body by his throat...


I didn't mean you should hold the leash or yank on it. Just step on it and then he can't jump up. He will wiggle and squirm and then give up. I would stand on the leash and ignore Maggie until she would stop and sit and then give her lots of praise.

Another strategy is to throw a handful of small treats away from the guests. Instead of racing to meet the guests, my two will redirect their focus to finding the scattered treats. Then get the guests away from the door and hopefully the excitement will have died down and they can greet calmly.
Maisey's Mama wrote:
Thanks, there is so much information in this site, it is hard to filtre it all!!! So, a gentle lead is the best?!? One employee at the pet store told me maybe I should try a prong collar. It looks positively barbaric!!


I'm new to the site too. I've only had my dog for about 3 months and boy is he a handful at 6 1/2 months old. I highly recommend seeking out a dog trainer if you haven't already. We are starting a new class in a couple of weeks and I will be using a prong collar. The collar looks terrible, but it won't damage your dogs throat like a choke collar can. My trainer only recommends using the collar for about a period of 30 days. It gets the point across to your dog really fast. If you're worried, put the collar around your arm and pull... its not that bad. A warning against halties, our trainer had a client whose dog broke it's nose on one. They are designed with horse in mind, which has a long piece of bone running down it's nose. A dog has cartiledge - you only need to press hard against your own nose to know that this kind of collar can actually be pretty painful. But a dog trainer will be able to help you out and offer specific recommendations for your dog, no matter the breed.
We live in the GTA and are really fortunate to have a vet who had sheepies while she was growing up so she is really familiar with the breed. I can't tell you how much this helps whenever I have a question about Oakley or Sydney. If you can't find someone familiar with sheepies or is at least willing to do some research, please post your questions here on the forum....there is a wealth of information here!!!
I don't know anything about Ontario, but there is a wonderful breeder in Welland, Ontario. Blueshire OES. I am sure she could recommend a vet if you are near her, and give you any other info you may need. My Nigel came from there.
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