Sheepie for Adoption?
Are these type of posts allowed on this forum? What is reasonable price for an adoption fee? I have an advertisement coming out in the newspaper tomorrow, but I thought this place might be better since you all know and love the breed so much. He is 11 months old and neutered, he is smaller than average, about 50lbs, he is up-to-date on all his shots, come with his crate and 500 toys, and loves EVERYTHING to an extreme! Kids, cats, dogs, people, toys...he will NEED obedience training as he is unruly....but that seems to be so typical....toilet paper eating, trash can treasures, turd burgler, VERY high energy level... Thanks.... 
Chris (Oswego/Syracuse, NY) Hotflats@aol.com Picture http://www.petpages.com/classifieds/CPU ... POLOXC.JPG |
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I would suggest contacting the oes rescues in your area instead, that way you know that whoever gets hime will have a better understanding of what it takes to be owned by an oes.  |
| There are some wonderful people who work in rescue in NY state. There is info on the forum about it. Call them and chat and see what can be done. |
| Hi Chris,
Your location is right on the edge of New England Old English Sheepdog Rescue's "territory". You should absolutely contact Grannie Annie at NEOESR (www.neoesr.org) she has been rescuing sheepdogs since 1964, and NEOESR now places 60-80 dogs every year. She will find the RIGHT home for your dog, taking into account his energy level and his disposition (even his turn burgling)! All prospective homes are carfully investigated and visited by NEOESR volunteers, and must meet some very stringent requirements. This is so that your dog won't be uprooted for a second time. This also weeds out undesireables: people have been known to "adopt" dogs from newpaper ads and some shelters for less-than-above-board reasons. Please drop her an email at Grannie.Annie@NEOESR.org or call her at 508-259-8173, the rescue hotline. Good luck in whatever you decide. |
| They all ask that I "give" him to them....and they will charge a fee for themselves for the adoption....I do take care of him...I just work and feel bad....and I also see how it is going 4 steps back in the training, behavior, and etc....one rescue/breeder in Canada is helping me through her contacts though.
He is 100% vet checked and up to date and neutered. This is why I came here...thought someone nearby might be looking. I have already turned down 1 request for him, because I didn't feel that they were right...no yard...in an apartment complex...he is rambuctious here and we have 4 acres!!!!! 
I will keep looking for his furever home... But, please keep your ears open for us? |
| How much money do you want? I might be able to pay you to turn him over to rescue if that is what is required. |
| Rescues ask for you to turn the dog over because they won't spend their donated dollars on buying a dog when there are so many in need. Rescuers are volunteers who don't get paid and spend a lot of their time on finding the perfect home. Their adoption fee is to cover the vet bills on dogs that aren't taken care of. For every one dog that is "taken care of" there are two more that need spay/neuter, heartworm treatment (an average of $300), grooming, shots.
If you want your dog to get the best home, give it to rescue. |
| gosh....I didn't come here to get bullied....I came here because I am trying to find a good home for Stewart. As for skipping over rescue....it's not that I am NOT willing to keep him....I just thought maybe someone here was looking for a fur ball.
And he is well taken care of...all shots, neutered, heartworm preventative, NO mats, and very much loved. This wasn't an "easy" decision! Thanks though, for making me feel like I am a bad person...just for the record, I am not. |
i dont think people are bullying you they are just trying to help you make the right descion which i do have to agree the rescue is ,a oes isnt a dog just for anyone they need loads of time thats before you even start thinking about grooming  ,they love being part of everything you do they are not a stay at home on there own type of dog a rescue will make sure its the right family not just someone who has fell in love with the looks of a oes and when they relise how much work they are back in the paper,the best thing you could do and i know its heartbreaking as ive had to do it myself is let the rescue find his forever home good luck |
| The intention wasn't to bully you!! The comment you made about you not getting $ for your dog and then the rescue charges a fee is what I wanted to clear up.
If you can find a good home yourself and get $ for him - great! If you don't feel that you can, then let rescue help. I know its a hard decision no matter what you do. If you do it yourself, ask the people who want him for a vet referance and if you can go see their home. |
| Here's an idea:
Surrender your dog to a non profit rescue organization that is a 501 (c)(3) organization and take a $2000 tax deduction as the value of your trained and neutered purebred dog. If you're in the 25% Federal bracket, that's worth $500 to you, and your dog will have the benefit of 100 potential adoptive families, and literally 40 years and 1,500 dogs of experience in NEOESR. Just a suggestion, the value of your donation to NEOESR is between you and the IRS. |
| Hi Chris,
I'm not sure where you got your pupper from- but if you got him from a respectable breeder, feel free to contact them also. I know that many breeders are heart broken when their pups no longer work in the homes they tried so hard to find for them... Most breeders are happy to help find a new home for dogs of their lines. ( I know that when my kitty girls breeders have an animal that no longer works out with their family, they insist that the cat be placed through them. rather than gouing to rescue or the pound, and then put the word out to see if any one is interested). They may have someone looking to purchase an adult dog from their lines, and have no dogs available. That way, your dog goes to a new family, your breeder helps "their" pup find a great new home, and you are compensated for parting with your beloved pal. This is just an idea, but I think that many times, with the great rescue societies out there, breeders can get a bit overlooked as a source for help with adult dogs I hope that everything works out with you and your sheepy, and (even though your feeling bad, understandably, about the situation) thank you for being responsible about finding a great home for your friend!!
Karen |
| I would love to recuse you lil girl however we are located in Monmouth Co NJ, we already have a 5 years old and I'm home all day! but you live so far out of the way! I wish you the best of luck! I know your heart must be breaking! |
| If all else fails and I still feel like he needs a new more "sheepie" home...I will do the rescue thing.
He really is a good boy....he's just a pistol
If anyone from here is interested at that time...I will gladly drive 3 or so hours. And from here that takes me to Ontario CAN, PA, MA, or CT Chris ( hotflats@aol.com ) P.S. The breeder has her ears open for me. |
wow!what an aweful story  here you have a wonderful buddy that you know is healthy,loved,and who is high energy,and you cant fit him into your schdule.this is only my opinion have you tried to rearrange your schdule at all before you give up your buddy?i mean is there anyway you could go home for 30mins at lunch take him for a walk,let out some of his energy?get up 30 mins. earlier in the morning to go for a walk or extra time outside?instead of going out for a drink after work go home let your buddy outside 1st,then go out and do what you need to.we has pet owners took on a respondsibility by bringing in a pet in the 1st place,and it is much easier to let it go than to make other arrangements. i think thats why we have so many animals in shelters right now,here in Minnesota 20,000 dogs and cats are put to sleep every month!thats sick!i bet if you really sat down and thought aboutt his i bet you could find just a few extra mins a day.he is only 11months old and right now he is high energy,but give him a few years and youll be able to leave him all day alone,and what a heartbreak to have gotten rid of him before he had a chance.you say your on 4acres,well theres got to be something you can do like make some sort of building for him outside if there sint one already,put up a fence around an enclosure so he is outside during your time away. just remember you took him into your family and he is now your kid,and he needs you to figure out a soulotion instead of giving him up. like i said its just my opinion.....tanya,mickey,and jagger |
| Hi Chris,
I just wanted to say that I commend you for doing what is best for you dog. There are people out there that could just throw him in the yard, and never be thought of again, except for food and water. It must be such a hard decision to make. I wish you well in finding him a home with someone with lots of time and is just waiting to fill it up with a sheepie. Good luck to you, Stormi |
| ok well im sorry if thats what it seemed i was saying to just throw him in the yard and just forget about him.yes chris I know this is VERY hard it must keep you awake some times.i was just trying to give you some advice that maybe IF you could rake up a few extra mins. a day,or make an enclosure for him while you have this hectic schdule.one day you may not have this hectic schdule and that if you could hang in there til your situation changed thats all. i also think giving up a buddy is very loyal and giving to me its like giving up a child for adoption,its the most loving thing you could do,but if you could keep your buddy wouldnt that be just as great. i am sorry if i came off holier than tho,im really not at all.however wording isnt my best featire either. all the luck to you |
| If I had time do make....do you think I would be doing this?
It takes me 45 minutes or more for me to get to work...so taking a lunch is out of the question. And I already get up at 5am. He does go out in the am and run around for like an hour. And.....I come straight home from work to let him out of his crate EVERY DAY! Then he doesn't go back into his crate till 10 or 11 at night when I retire for the evening...and my children play with him each night too....so you see 1) he has an active roll in my family....and 2)....I really dont have time to go DRINK after work anyway! That was a bit of a presumptious comment wasn't it? Would you rather that I just drop him off in the country some where, or haul him to the SPCA, or chain him to a tree in the yard and forget him? I never said he wasn't loved or ignored or kept outside.....isn't coming here an effort. who are you to judge me as some horrible person..... As for the other more helpful critisim...thank you all, really! Enjoy your wiggles butts...have wonderful lives....and keep the bathroom trash coverd!
Good-Bye! |
Hotflats wrote: He does go out in the am and run around for like an hour. And.....I come straight home from work to let him out of his crate EVERY DAY! Then he doesn't go back into his crate till 10 or 11 at night Wow. He's in his crate 10 or 11 PM to 5AM (6 or 7 hours) plus the entire time you're at work (assume 8 hour day, two 45 minute commutes, 9.5 hours).
Your dog Stewart is crated for around 16 hours a day. Wow. Just turn your dog over for adoption. You're the one who made the mistake in thinking that this dog would fit your lifestyle, why continue to let him suffer like this for a couple of hundred bucks? If there was a big market out there of well qualified second homes for problematic sheepdogs (and after being crated 16 hours a day, your dog is probably problematic, one way or another), do you think there would be a need for rescue? Do you want to find the right home for your dog? Do you think you can do that as well as a person who places 50 or 80 sheepdogs a year, every year? Someone asked you but you didn't bother to respond as to how much money you wanted for your dog. So is it a question of money, or do you have something against the rescue organizations? Do the right thing. Stewart deserves a second chance, doesn't he? |
| Please take your dog to rescue. Having him in a crate for that many hours is not fair to him and will make him hyper when he gets out. Call the rescue that Ron mentioned do it while he is still a candidate for adoption. I too belong to a rescue group and it cost money to run it and they interview potential adoptive parents and they turn many away. Most breeders do not sell to someone who is not home to raise a puppy. Why won't the breeder take back her puppy?
When dogs are in rescue the people in rescue work for the dogs! Please put your dogs needs ahead of yours and turn him over to rescue while he is adoptable!!!! |
| Could you be more specific on how much money you are looking to get for him? If you sent him to the sheepdog rescue I would be happy to send some money your way. I know the sheepdog rescues do really concentrate on finding a home that can really dedicate a lot of time to their dogs so it really is a perfect scenario. I would just hate to see you sell him through an ad in the paper to a family that may not be familiar with the demands of an OES and that he may possibly be put up for adoption more than one time.
You are not a bad person, I commend you for realizing that your pup may not be living in an ideal situation right now. But, please DO consider the NOESR. I don't have direct adoption experience with them, but am very familiar with what they are all about and a few of the posters on here have adopted dogs from them as you will see are the center of their lives now. Please keep us posted of your decision too, if you would. Thanks again for including us on your heartbraking decision. I know this is a sad thing to go through but you are doing the right thing. |
| My dog sleeps in his crate (approx 6-7 hours per night) and is in his crate during the day while we are at work (8 hours max) but does not seem to be any the worse for it. He gets lots of attention during the week and esp. weekends. Sometimes I go home at lunch time and let him out but he always goes directly back to his crate. Also, sometimes he lays in his crate at night, even when it's not bed time. I didn't think we were causing him any harm with crate time. He seems happy and well adjusted and goofy, just like a sheepdog should be. He gets plenty of attention and outdoor time when he wants it. Do you think he's ok? Now I'm worried. |
| I'm sure more time out of the crate wouldn't hurt Do you have a close friend, relative, or neighbor that you could trust to come over and let him out, play with him for a while? How about one of the local neighborhood kids, do you know any that are trustworthy enough to let your pupper out after school and play with him?? Just some ideas... I don't own a sheepie and maybe some oif the other board memebrs can tell you a bit more, those are just some of my ideas for getting your sheppie a few more play time hours |
I am not an expert on how much time dogs should spend inside a crate, but many of the people I know that do crate their dogs, the dogs are crated all day and then again at night. I don't crate max because I never had a need to. He is in the house all day from 8am til 5:30pm and sometime later. He then is in for the nite at about 10 when I go to sleep. He does have the run of the house, but he sleeps the entire time I'm gone. There are some nights when I can't be home and he is alone then too. There are some days I will leave him in the back porch with access to the backyard through his doggy door, but I think he is happier inside. I can tell when he is feeling neglected and he tells me, but someone has to work to be able feed him  , and he gets alot of attention on the weekends. |
Deskwench wrote: My dog sleeps in his crate (approx 6-7 hours per night) and is in his crate during the day while we are at work (8 hours max) but does not seem to be any the worse for it. He gets lots of attention during the week and esp. weekends. Sometimes I go home at lunch time and let him out but he always goes directly back to his crate. Also, sometimes he lays in his crate at night, even when it's not bed time. I didn't think we were causing him any harm with crate time. He seems happy and well adjusted and goofy, just like a sheepdog should be. He gets plenty of attention and outdoor time when he wants it. Do you think he's ok? Now I'm worried.
How old is your puppy? Most puppies sleep 20 hours out of the day - so I wouldn't be too concerned with the amount of time a young puppy spends in the crate! Leave him with toys, bones, etc. - so he doesn't get bored! If you can break up the day into shorter time spans - that's probably better but if you can't -at least in the crate you know he's safe and can't get into trouble! Make sure you spend QUALITY time with him when he's out of the crate - playing, training, socializing, etc. - and I'm sure you'll have a well behaved, adjusted dog! I'm sure he's okay - please don't worry! JMHO. Kristen |
| Well, I guess I won't worry. We really can't leave him out of his crate unattended because he is terrible about getting into all kinds of things! I'm afraid he would get into something and get sick, or worse. No matter how "doggie proof" we think our house is, he always manages to find something to chew, tear up, try to eat, etc. He's almost 2 years old. I do give him a treat and a toy (usually a peanut butter filled kong) when he goes into his crate so he will have something to occupy his mind. I look forward to the day we can let him have the run of the house. Right now, I'm afraid we wouldn't have much house to come home to! |
| My girls are in their crates from 8:30 am till 4pm on days when my hubby and I work the same shift. But I always work the same hours, and his change, so during a wekk, this week for example, he didn't have to go to work till 2pm so they were only crated for 2 hours. Tomorrow I think it's all day, and the next day he is off, and the next it might be 1pm etc. On weekends there is always at least one of us home. At night most nights they sleep with us, unless they are being rambunctious and want to play run across our faces at the speed of light chasing each other around the room, in which case they are crated for the night. |
See lots of people crate their dogs....and yes Stewart would ransack the house too! 
As for rescue...Grannie and the rescue in Ontario are trying to help me with referals. As for the cash....my lowest is only $350, but I dont want or need your sympathy cash....Like I said before, and once again....I thought someone on this board might be looking...as many are. And I am not "against" the rescues at all.... I have a woman coming tomorrow night to see him, she has has two that have passed from old age in her life time and has been searching for one to fill the void. She seems perfect! Doesn't work, lives on a horse form, her best friend is a dog groomer, took her previous Sheepies on vacation with her...sounds like someone who needs to be owned by a sheepie to me! ~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| ......and she has vet references too..... |
Hotflats wrote: IShe seems perfect!
Keeping my fingers crossed that this woman is the right person to adopt your pup. |
| Chris i sent you an e-mail about being interested in adopting your sheepdog. Let me know if he is still available. I hope to hear from you soon.
-scott berger |
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