Scissoring Show Coat
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I just "searched" in the forum...scissor shaping..and found a couple posts about it. Did you see these??? I don't know it this will help you----sorry I do not have a clue.....  |
| The best written reference I know is "Care and Grooming of Old English Sheepdogs" by Monique Carriere.
Unfortunately, this book has been out of print for awhile and you will have some trouble finding it. My copy came from a show supply store in Australia a few years ago. I also ran across one copy on eBay in the past year and bought it for a friend. A great way to learn is to find a mentor closer to home and take notes and photographs. As mentioned, there are some great photos here on the forum, too. 
Good Luck! |
| I would suggest going to a show and observing. A lot of prep gets done for HOURS before ring time. |
| I don't think you can learn very well from a book - in person is the best way. So much depends on the age of the dog, the type of coat, etc. I'm learning up to my eyebrows and loving it, but it varies quite a bit!!! Shows are the best because they are in person. |
| Alright... deep breath....
Mellissa Verplanks book "Notes from the grooming table" is a groomers best friend. It's my opinion that every groomer use it as a bible and gaurd it with you life. However, I'm afraid it will not help you in your quest for prefecting your sissoring skills. This book was designed to fine tune the trained proffessional groomer. When I saw your post yesterday I made a point to look at my book today while at work and see if it would help you any. There was a couple of examples and exersices to create better posture and positioning. A few of these I have posted previously when another forum member posed the same question. I'd be happy to repost them if you need me to. Sissoring is an art. It takes much practice and repition to get it down. You may want to consider one of the following: 1. Find a local groomer that has a good reputation of doing quality sissor work, leaving more than 1 1/2 in all over the dog. This will insure they can had sissor and thier not cheating by using guard combs. Surly someone in your area would be happy to spend a day or two with you going over the propper techniques. 2. Find a vidieo on how to groom your dog. They won't have any OES's on there, but they will give you a visual referance. Then you can practice on your friends dogs or better yet voulenteer down at your local shelter. It's not easy to find groomers that are specially skilled in OES. I myself have been spending as much time as possible at dog shows networking. I have made many new friends as well as learned some new techniques. I think you will find this most helpfull. Please let me know if there is something in particular you are stuck on and I can try to talk you thru it. |
| The book Maggie McGee 1V recommended is awesome, diagrams to take you through every step.
Unfortunately out of Publication but if you can search for one then do. The only book on OES that has detailed diagrams and also what grooming tools to use where I have ever seen Wish they would reprint that one. 
Yes I have one too, got it from a 2nd hand book shop years ago and it is truly wonderful for show coat presentation  |
| I would definitely say that you need someone to physically show you how to do it. I've watched for a couple of years and been practicing and still can't get the butt quite right! There is nothing that can substitute for one on one mentoring. Also, I've watched and had lessons from quite a few of the top OES people out there and nobody does it the same!! Even if everyone here were to right down directions or demonstrate for you, you'd get a bunch of different styles. I'd say look around at local shows and check out how different people do their thing. You probably won't get any lessons before a show, it's way too busy but at least you could watch and pick up some clues.
Worst comes to worst, grab some pictures and a pair of scissors and practice away. If you want, here's the most current  list of OESCA Mentors: http://www.oldenglishsheepdogclubofamer ... ORLIST.HTM
You may want to try and contact someone in your area and see if you can get some one on one time with one of them. (I'm sure that you already know about how catty some people can be!!! If they don't like who you got your dog from, you might hit some "resistance".) I can suggest some more people on the East coast if you are out this way. |
| I found a copy of Marie Carrier's "The Care and Grooming of an OES" both on ebay and amazon. I love it. Look there. |
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