water issue in crate!
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| That really doesn't sound like enough water. I'm not sure I understand why you can't have water in the crate if you're picking her up and putting her in there anyway? Can't you get her in the crate and the put the water in? Or use one of those hanging bowls made for crates and fill it with ice cubes so they melt slowly and she always has a water source.
If she's a normal, playing puppy, access to water two times a day really isn't enough. |
| Im saying I am not always around to get her in the crate so that she can have water Im gone for a lot of hours a day. She stays in the laundry room its huge though when im gone she will not use it in there and i keep her crate open, but she refuses to walk into the crate herself to drink the water. So shes pretty much only getting water in the morning before i leave when i can put her in and in the late afternoon when i can put her in the crate so once at 7am and again that evening. So in other words yes I could place the water outside the crate but im asking is there a way to decrease her fear of the crate and go into it herself I prefer to train her that all food and water stay inside the crate and that is where u must go. |
| I am confused about exactly what your question is. But agree with Butterstotch. Your dog needs fresh water available 24 hours a day. Why is it that you only want food and water in the crate, I don't know any reason you would not want to feed outside the crate.
The other issue is why is your dog afraid of the crate? Most dogs look at the crate as their den, not a place to fear. |
| for just training reasons i want it inside the crate. but we are working on it she is going in the crate more as long as i put these new Zuke treats in the crate lol, so ive been enticeing her into thecrate more to get water. SHe seems to be doing well and is get.ting more water during the day.
Thanks. |
| Again, PLEASE make sure she is getting enough water. I don't really agree to using water in "training". There is nothing wrong with withholding water for short periods, for example many people take the water up at night until a dog is well house trained. But a dog needs a consistent supply of fresh water during the day. Treats and food are fine but water should be available outside the crate til she is comfortable going inside it. |
| I have had an OES now for more than 15 years and I have never used a crate at home as I see no need, when we go out and the dogs are at home they have the run of the house. as puppies we house train them and that usually only takes a couple of weeks and when an accident happens it was our fault for not paying attention to the pup. One thing they always have fresh water no matter what this is very important.
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| thanks for the concerns on the water but I will make her understand water will be in the crate along with food, we cannot just have it out of the crate we have other pets that will get into it and I do think its good for training reasons to have all water and food in the crate it helps dogs feel the crate is there safe den so i do think it helps in training,we have a new schedule we are trying out to help with her potty habits
7am-food water walk potty 10am-playtime in house more water potty again crate 1pm-water potty walk crate 4pm-water potty crate 6pm-free water till bedtime potty walk playtime in house till bed time. in crate That away she is getting more water since i have to take her to the water she wont just go to it and potty breaks, the only bad is I am having to come home for each of the breaks but my manager just breaks apart my lunch time between the times so it works. Were gonna do this until she gets the potty down and is comfy with the crate and see how it goes. |
| I don't give my guys constant access to water. In fact, most of the books I am reading suggest to NOT do that while house breaking. And if I leave a full bowl out, they just play in it. Instead, I have a large bowl and leave some water so it just covers the bottom. When they have finished that, I will give them more. I also water them after each walk and play time. But all the books say to lift their water in the evening (several suggest between 7pm and 8pm), to help them not have to potty during the night.
Both my partner and I work from home, so I can keep a constant eye on my pups, and thier water consumption. It must be really hard trying to raise your puppy while working out of the house for so many hours. What if you tried leaving her water just outside the crate, and slowly work towards moving it inside? My guys avoided the crate in the begining too, but feeding them inside it has helped alot. It was again a suggestion from some of the puppy books I've been reading. They say it helps to associate the crate with something positive; in this case, a yummy meal. |
| Restricting water at night is a common practice during the period of housebreaking, which is usually just a few weeks. Otherwise they should have access to water when ever they want it. My dogs have water available through the night but seldom make the trop from the bedroom to the kitchen to get a drink at night. They do drink quite regularly through the day.
As for the poster, I'm actually quite confused over what it is you are asking. Your original post asked if it was ok to only give water twice a day, no it isn't. You also asked if the water should be put in the crate to "make her" go in the crate. The overwhelming opinion seems to be you should have water available for her where she is comfortable getting it. Your next post has a rather comprehensive schedule of walking and watering, but in another post you said you were gone many hours. So I am a bit confused. |
| I'm also a little confused. I guess I assumed that your pup was new; and when we traded PMs you revealed that she is going on 8 months old. How long have you had her; the majority of the 8 months, or has she just come to you at this age? If she's been rejecting crate training for the better part of 8 months, it just might not be her thing.
I also agree with Tasker's Mom; if your dog is house broken, then there is no reason to restrict her water intake. If you or I could only have a beverage in the morning and again in the evening, we'd be pretty unhappy, and probably be flirting with some health issues. Can you explain again why the water has to be given in the crate, and why it can't just be left out for your OES? |
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