Grooming video
So, when my dogs begin to look like they are wearing swim fins instead of paws, I put them on the built in desk/work center in the kitchen (my husband calls it the 300K grooming table.  ) and start trimming. I'm clueless and don't have the right tools, but they turn out better than what the groomer charges me for.
My point in all of this rambling is, does anyone know where I can buy a quality OES grooming DVD? I really need to see how it's done, rather than reading instructions. I googled to find one, but results were thin. I searched grooming on oes.org and didn't find what I needed. Ellie and Buff thank you for your help (the neighborhood dogs laugh at their haircuts  ) |
|
|
| I totally agree. I read descriptions with a WTHeck look on my face ...no matter how detailed they are.
I have grooming videos, but none that would apply to an OES. ...having one would be the best Christmas gift 
Anyone have a video camera and the time?  |
| There are several excellent grooming posts herein. Butterstotch (Jil) I believe has done the latest; and there is an earlier series by Carl. Someone will supply the links, I'm sure. Both of these deal with the assumption that you're working with a full coated sheepie.
Here's a post to get you started: http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=1084 Also refer to the Grooming topic in Forum Index - second item. |
| My mistake, the latest is by Willowsprite (Stacy). Here's the link:
http://www.lakesongoes.com/grooming.htm |
| Thanks George, I did find the photo essay's and they have helped me in the past. What I need is a DVD/video that shows how to trim and shape. I need to see the entire process and be able to review it several times. I'm very visual and that's the best avenue for me to learn. |
Joahaeyo wrote: I totally agree. I read descriptions with a WTHeck look on my face ...no matter how detailed they are.
Yup, I know that look.  |
Give it a try. It will grow back. However if you're talking about grooming for the show ring? then I agree. I've had people describe to me how to shape and back comb to get the big fluffy rear end, and when I try I still wind up with flat butts. I thought maybe I'd try a mixture of cup grease and shellac!  |
| Try neoesr.org |
George wrote: There are several excellent grooming posts herein. Butterstotch (Jil) I believe has done the latest; and there is an earlier series by Carl. Someone will supply the links, I'm sure. Both of these deal with the assumption that you're working with a full coated sheepie.
Here's a post to get you started: http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=1084 Also refer to the Grooming topic in Forum Index - second item. I was like "What? I did?" And if I did, why didn't I look at what I said when I trimmed Clyde? Lol. The best advice I can give you: make friends with someone who shows their OES and hang around for grooming lessons. I flew from Michigan to Pennsylvania to meet Mandy and have her help me with trimming (well, it was also to visit and hang out, too, but it was the grooming that motivated me!). She was very helpful and, slowly but surely, I'm getting the hang of it. It's very helpful in learning when you don't have a show dog because mistakes just aren't a big deal. Once you get the basics down, it's all practice. I am by no means an expert, but I do feel a lot more confident now. |
| Hey Sheeps!
I'll be in Utah very, very soon and would hope that at some point we can get together. I'd love to give you the in person demo...not that I'm any pro but I'll impart what knowledge I have. I remember the first time we went to show Martin and Carl turned to me and said "Well, have at it!" lol I had NO idea whatsoever what to do! I thought HE did! Poor Martin....good thing he has lots of patience. I'm going to make sure I have internet access while I'm there (long story to be told at later date) so we'll be able to exchange info and come up with a good date/time. #1...remember hair grows...lol #2...best advice I ever got...thinning shears...that way you can go slow and it doesn't look like you put them in a dicer. #3 Brush...snip....brush...snip....stand back and get a different perspective....repeat. ok....this might just get Carl to do the DVD he's always threatening to put together...lol. |
| Bestdogs pointed out the New England Old English Sheepdog Rescue has a couple of grooming videos direct link is:http://www.neoesr.org/videos.htm. I don't know what format that they are in, but it might be worth checking into.
Good Luck Jennifer, Baxter, Cassiopia and Sharkey |
Carl's wife wrote: Hey Sheeps! I'll be in Utah very, very soon and would hope that at some point we can get together. I'd love to give you the in person demo...not that I'm any pro but I'll impart what knowledge I have.  WOOHOO That's terrific; I would love to meet you and listen to any advice you have. Please let me know when you have time to get together and I will clear my schedule of everything. (meanwhile, I won't cut a hair on Buff and Ellie, they would be so embarrassed if you were to see them after one of my do-it-yourself kitchen bowl cuts.) ButtersStotch wrote: The best advice I can give you: make friends with someone who shows their OES and hang around for grooming lessons.
Good advice, and exactly what was lurking in the back of my mind. I just wasn’t sure who to approach to council me. I knew it was going to include a serious road trip, well outside of Utah. With all the sheep raised in this state you would think someone would know something about Sheep Dogs. |
Sheeps over Aces wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: The best advice I can give you: make friends with someone who shows their OES and hang around for grooming lessons. Good advice, and exactly what was lurking in the back of my mind. I just wasn’t sure who to approach to council me. I knew it was going to include a serious road trip, well outside of Utah. For anyone that wants to come to Mandy-land to hang out, it looks like there will be one more show this year, middle of next month. (Calling Chris and Dale!!!) Otherwise, check out the OESCA breeder referral page, see who's close to you and start doing some calling. Lots of the breeders are also mentors and if they aren't available they may have friends or savvy pet people to help you out. You never know unless you ask!!! Although, I have no idea who is out in Utah to send you to! |
| Oh my... it's an art, sissoring. I'm not sure that a video will be much help. You almost need to take a class in it. Or can you find a certified master stylist in you area that would be willing to spend a day or two with you.
There are grooming videos availible, not for oes's I am sure, but if you could find one that offers say a bichon, or some sort of doodle, they can teach you some helpful tips as well as showing you basic clipper manuvers. You will find it helpful, even if it's not an oes. A couple a of tips off the top of my head to help with sissoring: 1. You must have complete control over the sissor to create fluid movement. You hold the sissor Thumb in the top hole, ring finger in the bottom hole. The pointer and middle rest on the shaft of the sissor. 2. keeping the sissor even with the hair with every stroke is vital. if you cut then pull away and return, you will make uneven cuts. You keep the sissor at the same distance and just move it up and down. (This is REALLy hard to describe... ) Practice holding your sissor corectly, opening and closeing it while running it along the edge of your table. This will help get you ready to move on to your dogs coat. I wish I was closer to help you, I am afraid I will have just confused you more than helped you. It's asham that groomers are not required to be certified. I wish it was more availible to us. Feel free to pm me if you get stuck on somthing in particular. |
| I bought the grooming video from NEOESR, it shows the proper way to bathe and blow dry, ther is no trimming on it whatsoever. |
gromingodess wrote: Feel free to pm me if you get stuck on somthing in particular.
Thanks Goddess, I appreciate the pointers and the offer for back up. Right now I'm trying to keep the shears away from the Sheeps until getting hands on pointers from Carl's Wife. |
gromingodess wrote: 2. keeping the sissor even with the hair with every stroke is vital. if you cut then pull away and return, you will make uneven cuts. You keep the sissor at the same distance and just move it up and down. (This is REALLy hard to describe... ) Practice holding your sissor corectly, opening and closeing it while running it along the edge of your table. This will help get you ready to move on to your dogs coat.
At the same time though, don't let that scare you. You're not showing your dogs, right? Even if you make it a little choppy, some thinning shears will even it out easily. Those you don't have to even be very careful with because you can't make giant chops. It's slow and safe. Whenever I hit an area that I have concern that I may cut too bluntly, I use the thinning shears and ease my way into it until I feel better about what I'm doing (which is sometimes never!). I think an even more challenging aspect of grooming is the camouflage grooming that you do to hide things you don't want people to see. That's an art in itself! Only a judge would notice something minor, like a chopped off mat or a thinned out area. Regular Joe Schmo will never notice and, likely, will just tell you how beautiful your dog is. |
Didn't find exactly what you're looking for? Search again here:
Custom Search
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|