More on Rally Obedience
http://www.rallyobedience.com/RallySigns.pdf There is a code in the upper right corner indicating whether the command is for novice (N), advanced (A), or excellent (E). In the ring the signs are placed on numbered cones or wire stands in the order they are to be executed; however I have them hanging on my basement wall, and taught the dogs to just do what I do. They know all the commands except backing up. |
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| George - hope you don't mind, but here are some pics of various OES doing rally:
Paula: 
Jim & Cruiser: 
LeAnne & Clay: 
Dave & Louie: 
Sophie: 
Kristine |
| Absolutely amazing and beautiful! Such hard work! |
| I love pictures of sheepies coming over a jump. I have a jump set up in the yard all the time. Every now and then I'll be on one side of the jump and the guys are playing in the yard on the other side. I'll yell over and they'll chase one another over the jump (30".) |
George wrote: I'll yell over and they'll chase one another over the jump (30".)
Wow! How tall are your guys? Used to be they had to jump - what was it - 1 1/2 times their height at the withers in AKC obedience? Now it's changed so they're only jumping to the nearest 2" multiple, but I know some people still jump their dogs higher because they feel their dogs jump better at those heights - you do tend to get better collection and a rounder jumping form which seems to help bring them in straight for the front. In rally - I know you know this, but for anyone else wondering - all OES will jump 16" (unless the regs change for some reason). There are only 3 jump heights, with 16" being the max (which means a 32" broad jump). This is one of the reasons it's great for our youngsters, and also our senior citizen dogs. And it's really not that hard. Or, rather, I should say the onus is on the handler to be able to walk and read at the same time  And less on the dog. But our dogs love it because you can talk to them and praise them as you go along. Novice is all on-lead and you don't have any jumps until you hit advanced and excellent (both offlead).
I'm surprised there aren't more OES out there competing in rally. It really is a lot of fun. Kristine |
| Barney is 29 at the withers, Maggie is 27, but they actually clear about 2"over 30. I have a yellow chaulk line strung 2" above the 30" so they want to clear that. The both do the broad at 60" with probably 6" to spare. The Open requirement is 36" max, however for some of the larger breeds it 3/4 the height to a max of 28" and 2x their height for the broad jump (72" max). |
| Big kids!
Barbara Foster actually wrote a book about OES in obedience: "Companions, Competitors & Clowns - The Old English Sheepdog in Obedience" I believe it's self-published, very limited run (300?), it was published in 1983. If you ever come across a copy, grab it! It details OES in obedience from 1936-1982. It has pictures - some of them very dramatic. But most of all it has these hilarious stories as told by the handlers themselves. Not much has changed in our breed when it comes to their ability to embarrass their handlers at least
Kristine |
Embarass? Last January I took Maggie to an open trial. She had been doing remarkably well in our practices. We go in the ring and I think she had a bad case of alzheimers. Half way through the trial I looked at the judge and we both just laughed! Every dog has its day.  |
| Thanks for the web link on the rally signs - it is better than the one I was using.
Also - thanks for the picutes. I am hoping to continue to work with Miley on Rally. I was hoping to go to our first trial in 2 weeks but I now have to work  . So - we will continue to keep training and hopefully go in March.
I do not have any experience in any type of dog show or obedience trials so I am want our first trial to be sponsored by our local kennel club so at least I know area and Miley is familar with the surroundings. I hope this is a good plan. We will see. Thanks for the infor. |
Monster Mom wrote: I do not have any experience in any type of dog show or obedience trials so I am want our first trial to be sponsored by our local kennel club so at least I know area and Miley is familar with the surroundings. I hope this is a good plan. We will see.
Thanks for the infor. Hi, Becky. When you get ready to enter, let me know ahead of time if you want some OES company and I'll enter Belle. If it's late enough next spring, I may even have Sybil and possibly someone else ready. That should give you plenty to laugh about... If the timing is right, Sunny may even be able to join us with Luca and it might even work out that Dawn could head down from MN. You never know. I don't often trial in the Madison area, but may be over that way for conformation anyway next year. It's only a couple of hours and it's more fun to be a group of OES people. Unless that would make you MORE nervous. Let me know. Kristine |
| You guys are lucky. When I took Barney and Maggie to Novice, I don't think anyone ever saw an OES in a trial in Missouri. Good luck first timer.
When I took Barney and Maggie to their first trial, I had never been in a ring before. I did go to a couple of shows earlier just to see what was the procedure. At the end of the first trial, I was called back in the ring with Barney. Why? I asked, and the ring steward said the Judge wanted to see him heel again. OK. Then after we finished I was told it was a run off for first place. He was nudged out by a Pembrooke Corgi. We had tied at 194.5 points. There were 14 dogs in the trial. The next two trials were at Purina Farms (outside on grass) Maggie came in first in one, Barnie was first is the other. One week time, 3 trials, 3 legs, 2 titles. What luck. We've tried Open several times since, but haven't been as lucky. Have fun. |
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Sounds like me and Belle. Except I knew what a run-off was and even though there were no OES people there, there were a couple of very kindly Giant Schnauzer people who took me under their wing. They told me to make sure Belle was warmed up for a possible run-off. I said, naw, ain't happening. Twice. We won once, lost the other, and she did the three days straight of trials and she had her title. What a good girl. Her handler was an idiot who never remembered to breathe once. It's a miracle they didn't have to call the paramedics. In fairness, though, I had OES obedience mentors elsewhere and a lot of encouragement. It does make a difference. Still prefer agility, but I'm liking traditional obedience more and more. Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: :Her handler was an idiot who never remembered to breathe once. It's a miracle they didn't have to call the paramedics. Ahahahaha! Breathe in, breathe out. |
| Just caught up to this post after being gone for the weekend.
I got my rally signs from a web site (posted below) and they are great. They are laminated and have a stiff cardboard backer laminated in with the sign. I have had them a couple years and they are still in perfect condition. After I priced what it would cost me to get the cardboard, cut it to fit and take it all somewhere to laminate and then trim around all the edges, I was more than happy to pay $39 + $4 shipping! Then I was lucky ebough to have a friend with tool and die/machinist background (and a wonderful home workshop!) who made me wire sign holders. I am trying to convince him to start selling them......
website for rally signs - http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~kramerc/home.htm The rally signs are about half way down the page. |
Ron wrote: Mad Dog wrote: :Her handler was an idiot who never remembered to breathe once. It's a miracle they didn't have to call the paramedics. Ahahahaha! Breathe in, breathe out.Sure, you LAUGH. But you have no idea how hard that can be
There is an obedience book with that title: Remembering to Breathe: (something like) from Novice A to OTCH (Obedience Trial Champion) It is about a Golden, but, George: are you reading this? Put it on your Christmas wish-list if you haven't read it already. You will be inspired. Kristine |
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