Stay away from petsafe dog collars
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| Oh poor Arthur! I have heard from so many people that PetSafe is not safe at all and still you can buy them everywhere!
So, is he still jumping? |
| I have a crate that he stays in while I am gone so now when some one knocks on the door I just say "crate pooch" and he runs right in. I wait about 20 minutes or so for him to calm down and then I let him out to check out the knew person in the room. |
Very good!  |
| Ditto on the shock collar. I had a collie once that was a real barker - to the point that I was warned by the police on several occasions. So I tried a Petsafe collar on him. Didn't stop the barking - he just kept barking anyway. Then one day I noticed some sores on his neck. That was the end of that thing. Back then I knew nothing about dog training, and rather than get cited and fined, I gave the dog to an elderly couple who lived in the country with a 5 acre fenced yard.
Some trainers advocate electronic collars - I think they are cruel and inhumane regardless of the brand; anyone who thinks otherwise ought to try one on themselves! Simply place the electrodes on your neck and bark like a dog; then when you regain your senses, throw the thing away. My guys now know the command "no Bark" and are pretty good about it. But I don't make a fetish about it - I think a dog's entitled to bark once in a while as long as it's not prolonged nuisance barking. |
George wrote: Some trainers advocate electronic collars - I think they are cruel and inhumane regardless of the brand;
I think a dog's entitled to bark once in a while as long as it's not prolonged nuisance barking. 100% agree here. One of my neighbors has a border collie who barks at strangers. He asked me to help to stop this behavior, and asked if he should get a shock collar. 
I explained how this would only help his dog learn to hate strangers....but I don't think he understood. Some people go for the quick fix, and then are surpised when it may fix one problem, but creat new ones..that are worse. And leaving it on the dog, enough to create sores just makes me shudder. Poor dogs... Good for you, George, that you recognized the cruelty of it and looked at the best interest of your collie and found a more appropriate environment. |
| Something I do with Laika that works really well is I have the person turn there back on her until she calms down. They don't usually jump up on people when there backs are turned. Works wonders. |
| First off, the wounds were not caused by "battery acid". The electrodes don't have batteries in them, the battery power goes from the battery to a circuit board then to the electrodes by a wire. Second, you SHOULD NOT leave the collar on all the time, or if you do, move it a little once a day so the electrodes are in a different spot. If you don't, the electrodes will irritate and rub the skin causing a sore, and yes it will smell.
My Petsafe manual says this: Caution: Do not leave collar on too tight. Doing so can cause Pressure Necrosis, a condition that results in skin deterioration. Check your pet’s collar regularly. Remove the collar weekly and wash your dog’s neck and probes with mild soap (approved by a veterinarian). If a rash or sores form, take the collar off for a few days. When replacing it, make sure that it’s not too tight. I have 3 big dogs(G. Shep, Lab, Rot) and if weren't for the Petsafe collar, I would be lost. I don't even have to shock them anymore just give them a beep, and they stop whatever they're doing wrong. Best thing since sliced bread. |
| I had a dog for a while last summer and we used the citronella collars because we did not at all feel comfortable with the idea of the shock collars. If you're not familiar with them, the vibration of the barking causes a little mist of citronella spray to mist out in front of them. They do not like the smell and it startles them, which interupts the behaviour so they stop. We have not had to use this on Tucker, but I was just wondering your thoughts on these ones. |
| This happened to my border collie took her to the vet last night. Here's a link on my fb with pics. https://www.facebook.com/John.Orton/pos ... 3276091648 |
| I hate being the one to butt into other peoples affairs and I know every dog is different, but My Max must be the exception to the rule, as Ive read through all the house breaking and chewing night mares every one seems to go through I count my lucky stars that we have never had any issues with Max at all outside of the new puppy thing we all go through when we first bring one home. Our previous friend (Doberman) of 14 years had passed away so about a year later I decided I was going to get a OES since I had always wanted one and at the age I am I figured its about time to get one, so enter Max into our lives, Anyway to make a long story short we used the same training method that we used on our Doberman which involved the proper use of a electronic collar, not only did it cure all his excitement when guest arrived into our home , but his outdoor activities as well. While he wears it only at times when we are outside or some times in the house, Ive only had to use it twice before he got the message that if he don't do what Ive requested of him he will hear a beep and if he still dose not comply he knows what's coming next but it never goes that far. He heels without a leash and yes even around his favorite (small children he is a perfect gentleman. Now I will say it takes a lot of work with the electronic collar you have to be consistent in its use. But to tell you the truth I would never take him or any other dog to a trainer to be trained. But like I say Max may be a exception to the rule, but our Doberman also behaved in the same manner with the electronic collar, as far as Im concerned it was the best purchase I ever made. I cant stress strong enough that you do not leave the collar on all the time and you always check the working condition of the collar before each use. But to say they are unsafe well anything can become unsafe if its not maintained or used properly. We as pet owners have the responsibility to not leave these type of things unchecked. Ive read where OES owners are having all kinds of behavior problems, even spending outlandish money for training. Ive had to do nothing but be consistent both in his commands and in the collars use. Now all Max has got to do is hear the command and most the time that's enough, sometimes I have to beep the collar but not very often., as with anything you have to make sure your using it in a positive manner. |
montecarlo97 wrote: First off, the wounds were not caused by "battery acid". The electrodes don't have batteries in them, the battery power goes from the battery to a circuit board then to the electrodes by a wire. Second, you SHOULD NOT leave the collar on all the time, or if you do, move it a little once a day so the electrodes are in a different spot. If you don't, the electrodes will irritate and rub the skin causing a sore, and yes it will smell. My Petsafe manual says this: Caution: Do not leave collar on too tight. Doing so can cause Pressure Necrosis, a condition that results in skin deterioration. Check your pet’s collar regularly. Remove the collar weekly and wash your dog’s neck and probes with mild soap (approved by a veterinarian). If a rash or sores form, take the collar off for a few days. When replacing it, make sure that it’s not too tight. I have 3 big dogs(G. Shep, Lab, Rot) and if weren't for the Petsafe collar, I would be lost. I don't even have to shock them anymore just give them a beep, and they stop whatever they're doing wrong. Best thing since sliced bread. I agree with you 100% |
Bosley's mom wrote: George wrote: Some trainers advocate electronic collars - I think they are cruel and inhumane regardless of the brand; I think a dog's entitled to bark once in a while as long as it's not prolonged nuisance barking. 100% agree here. One of my neighbors has a border collie who barks at strangers. He asked me to help to stop this behavior, and asked if he should get a shock collar. I explained how this would only help his dog learn to hate strangers....but I don't think he understood. Some people go for the quick fix, and then are surpised when it may fix one problem, but creat new ones..that are worse. And leaving it on the dog, enough to create sores just makes me shudder. Poor dogs... Good for you, George, that you recognized the cruelty of it and looked at the best interest of your collie and found a more appropriate environment. That's the biggest bunch of BS Ive ever read, Ive used this type of collar from the get go and anything that helps both you and your 80 to 120 lb dog to live in harmony is a help, but like most people they buy it put it on and that's it, they don't read the instructions, they don't maintain it and they are not consistent with its use. In other words user error. When Max started his Barking and jumping up it took about a day for him to learn it was unacceptable behavior, and believe me when I say he don't hate strangers (got no clue where you came up with that) I can only speak for my dogs that Ive used this collar on and its a god send. |
Bosley's mom wrote: George wrote: Some trainers advocate electronic collars - I think they are cruel and inhumane regardless of the brand; I think a dog's entitled to bark once in a while as long as it's not prolonged nuisance barking. 100% agree here. One of my neighbors has a border collie who barks at strangers. He asked me to help to stop this behavior, and asked if he should get a shock collar. I explained how this would only help his dog learn to hate strangers....but I don't think he understood. Some people go for the quick fix, and then are surpised when it may fix one problem, but creat new ones..that are worse. And leaving it on the dog, enough to create sores just makes me shudder. Poor dogs... Good for you, George, that you recognized the cruelty of it and looked at the best interest of your collie and found a more appropriate environment. Sometimes its easier to see who has the most brains the dog or the owner, Im sure in this case you can figure it out. these collars are not cruel and if used right can train a dog better than any trainer Ive ever had the displeasure of meeting. |
Stephen wrote: I bought a shock collar to try and keep Arthur from jumping on people when they come in the front door. It did not work very well. His hair was to long. After coming home from work I finally got fed up with the collar and after about two weeks I decided to remove the collar. I was shocked to see that Athur had 2 holes burned into his neck through the skin. I immediatly rushed Arthur to the Vet. The Vet confirmed that the shock collar had malfunctioned because of the acid coming out of the battery and plus the smell was electrical if you know what I mean. I asked the Vet to take pictures so I could send them to the company so they could maybe recall their product. I called "Petsafe" and was told that there product can not malfunction that way and that there was no way their product could harm my dog. I was also told that it could have been some skin irritation. I told them I had pictures, I told them that the Vet even said the collar had malfunctioned but I was basicaly blown off. The good news is that Arthur is completly healed and I learned he is one tough Sheep Dog. The only time he wimpered was when the Vet had to staple the two holes in his neck. Can you say moron? why would you leave the collar on consistently for two weeks? did you not read the instruction manual? Ok that's enough I've got a feeling that's all the questions you can handle for now. Please understand I'm not trying to be mean here but its people like you that gives new meaning to the word stupid. |
| It's funny when people get mad and respond to a post that is 7 yrs old. |
AnInnocentEvil wrote: It's funny when people get mad and respond to a post that is 7 yrs old. Not to mention Hank&Max have posted exactly the same words on at least 3 occasions in different posts today. Makes me wonder  Agenda?  |
Mim wrote: AnInnocentEvil wrote: It's funny when people get mad and respond to a post that is 7 yrs old. Not to mention Hank&Max have posted exactly the same words on at least 3 occasions in different posts today. Makes me wonder Agenda? |
AnInnocentEvil wrote: It's funny when people get mad and respond to a post that is 7 yrs old. Hey sorry if you confused my displeasure as anger, it was in fact not the case and yes I knew it was 7 years old but still felt I could reply to it anyway. I will refrain from doing so in the future, Still Im glad you got a chuckle out of it. |
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