Hormone Blocker instead of neutering?
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| I've never heard of it before, but that doesn't mean much.
As far as dangers... well, let's find out what this is first! |
| I think it's called "immunological castration". From the view point of someone who knows absolutely nothing about it, I'd want to know a couple of things...
How effective it truly is in preventing unwanted litters. What long term affect it has on the dog receiving the shots. Here's an article... sorry I don't have time to read it over but it relates to this subject- http://www.biolreprod.org/cgi/reprint/51/6/1076.pdf I think it's said to be reversible so I'd also be concerned about owners that aren't responsible enough to take their dog in for even an ear infection or annual checkup. If the owner skips a shot will their dog become just one more problem to an already burdened society? You might also look here for more information- GnRH "Agonists" and GnRH Vaccines http://www.hsus.org/wildlife/issues_fac ... gents.html I guess we need to know which one you're considering. Is there a specific name? With surgical neutering at least it's permanent. It'll be interesting to hear more on this... |
| I'd be worry about using any synthetic hormonal process to change there systems. I think the risks long term would be unknown at the moment, my thoughts would be altering there systems by a synthetic hormonal process would that put them at risk in the longer term of things like tumours etc.?
An article written here on this method of neutering, it is by way of an implant inserted into the dog, only a short term process. 6 to 12 month treatments available, so you have to have it done once or twice a year to keep them sterile. I imagine the costs over time with the implants would mount up and I would think a semen evaluation cost & possibily a blood screen also to evaluated when another implant is needed down the track would also be a regular thing too for this way of keeping the dog sterile. They say in this article - Fertility control Controls testosterone induced behaviours treats prostatic enlargement easily administered No permanent effects No anaesthetic or surgical procedure It is fairly new technology but I imagine this way of sterilisation would be only for those aware it is not a permanent sterilisation of the dog and it is ongoing to keep the dog sterile. Also because it is fairly new technology with these implants I still wonder what the longer term overall effects really would be over the years with the dogs overall long term wellbeing. Surgical castration, one off process and the dog is all over and done with and lessens the risks of tumours, prostrate problems, etc as they age.  |
| Neutering is very easy these days vs 10 years ago. Only a little snip and a quick recovery for a dog. Just mentioning that in case you are concerned that you are really hurting your dog. |
| I'm assuming this would be something like Lupron, which has been used to decrease inappropriate sexual behavior in some mentally challenged teenagers.
I do know some of these kids received the injection monthly, with good improvement in behavior. I don't have any idea about longterm effects, because we only saw them for 4 to 6 years or so. It is a serious medication, with some side effects. I'm not sure what they charge for it now, but it was very expensive in the early 90s. I wouldn't consider it. |
| I guess my question would be why use a method that requires continual follow up and worry when you can take care of it once and for all? |
Tasker's Mom wrote: I guess my question would be why use a method that requires continual follow up and worry when you can take care of it once and for all?
A show dog boy who's hormones are making him a jerk?  Would that be a trait that would make him a bad candidate for championship or breeding, though? |
Quote: A show dog boy who's hormones are making him a jerk?
Oooo... that's a good point. What if the dog has true champion heritage so the dog should actually procreate to continue the fine line but his hormones are making a fool out of him? Maybe the temperament isn't as good as one thinks or is it just normal dumb-boy behavior? 
(Who's been looking at this boy...  )
http://www.slide.com/r/Gnjz2yVW4j_Yer2n ... 2503938710) |
ravenmoonart wrote: Tasker's Mom wrote: I guess my question would be why use a method that requires continual follow up and worry when you can take care of it once and for all? A show dog boy who's hormones are making him a jerk? Would that be a trait that would make him a bad candidate for championship or breeding, though?No, this is what I have heard, that it is widely used in the show ring for the male dogs as it is reversable when time comes for babies. it is not an implant but an injection. I am considering it on a short term base and when they are one year old I will neuter. But now is is just to stop the marking and over sexual urges taking place in my home. By the time the shot wears off itis time to nip them in the jingle bells 
Thanks for the articles. I have a real catastrophie here on my hands. Two males nearing 6 months and marking like hell all over my home, bed, food bowls, MY foot  . Both dominant, both aggressive, both possessive  |
Quote: I have a real catastrophie here on my hands. Two males nearing 6 months and marking like hell all over my home, bed, food bowls, MY foot Shocked . Both dominant, both aggressive, both possessive
I've read some articles on waiting until a year so they're more developed but wonder if the shots would also suppress the benefits of waiting?? Maybe discuss this with your vets. If you've got two precious knuckleheads ruining the house (and your shoes  ... sorry that slipped out), you might want to celebrate the holidays early by removing those "jingle bells" now . Unless there's some medical reason not to.
It's going to take time for those raging hormone levels to lower even after they've been surgically neutered. Surgically altered boys and girls can demonstrate rotten "coming of age" behavior like dominance and aggression. You might also consider binging in a professional trainer so some of the behavior that's now related to hormones/age doesn't become a learned behavior or response. Best wishes and good luck with your decision. |
| Jingle bells?! Kinda gives a whole new meaning to the line "Bells on Bobtail ring" doesn't it?
(sorry...couldn't resist ) |
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Ooooh... that was goooood  |
 Bravo, Laurel!! Good one! |
| Spewing Mello Yello on my monitor, I can't stop laughing!
Touche' Laurel!!! |
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