Bringing in a new OES
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| Looks like you are doing the right things, just remember it can take a few days to a month or more for them to adjust. We have done lots of fostering and each dog is different according to their personality. We always make sure to spend a little extra time with the regular dogs so they don't feel neglected with our divided attention. We always feed seperately - different rooms. The best advice I can give is to keep a watchful eye and don't push. They will adjust on their own.
It is great you are fostering. |
| Just want to add...
There is a very good thread on the forum about fostering at http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=10912 |
OK, we went for our walk tonight and all was ok. Sitting around the Living room tonight, Bandit (male) started smelling Bella (Female) face, this only happen for a second before Bella snap and there was a lil incident. No one was hurt but my wife is ready to give up. Any help availble?  |
| Was it just a snap, or an attack? She has to be able to tell him to leave her alone. It's a bit easier when it's an adult female telling a pup to back off...but it could be the same thing. Are you showing or planning on breeding your female? If not, spaying her would calm her down. There is a reason they call them "bitches". Not that they aren't as lovable. |
| i brough derby in as a pup and my otehr 2 girls are 12yr.. the one b daytona to this day still growls at derby and he has learned to back down the otehr puts up with him and has gooten use to him .. keep hanging in there |
You really have to give these things time. I'd bite too if someone I didn't like yet was sniffing me. 
Hang in there! |
| It's so hard to tell by just words what's happening but I'd say that the snap was your sheepie-girl telling him not to invade her space and to back off. He'll have to learn her limits.
Has Bella been around many of other dogs in her lifetime? Is this the first long term, live-in furry friend to come along? She may feel threatened having him in her domain and possibly be fearful of him. Have they had any play time outdoors in a secure area? SOMETIMES being in a large enclosed area allows them to interact while still having an easy escape. Sometimes long leads are best in situations like this if there could be a confrontation so they can be separated. Be careful the looped end doesn't get caught on anything if they're running around though. Quote: Sitting around the Living room tonight, Bandit (male) started smelling Bella (Female) face, this only happen for a second before Bella snap and there was a lil incident. No one was hurt but my wife is ready to give up.
I know the upset... especially if you haven't been around multiple dogs. We want SO much for them to just get along. They will set their own boundaries as to what they will accept and what they won't. We have to be ready to step in if necessary... being careful not to get bit. Keeping leashes on both of them in the evening will allow you to separate them if a fight should occur. Do NOT leave the leashes on them unattended and DO NOT leave them them together unsupervised until they've both settled in. It takes time... the next time an "incident" occurs, try to observe if they're biting multiple times or biting/shaking... OR if they're just nipping, snapping, growling. It can sometimes sound like they're killing each other when really they're just communicating through posturing and vocalization. I've heard that females can be SUCH princesses...  |
| Just recieved an update from my wife at home. she took very one ( both oes and our two Shih Tzu) out back for some run time. She said that all the suddun she noticed that they were running criss-crossing in the yard and then stop almost nose to nose each barked a lil, then they both through their paws on the ground and started running again. I think I'm seeing improvements. Monday and Tuesday we let Bandit have the run of the house like the other but today my wife decided to put him in the kithen with a small gate between where he is and the rest are ( He could jump over with some effert, not a large gate ) and everyone seems to be a lil bit better and now with the play, I am feeling much better about this part. We have noticed that Bandit has issues when he is eating and sometimes when you try to push him back, he has snapped at my wife and my oldest daughter but has not really bitten anyone. We contact the lady from the Rescue and she has made an appointment with a special trainer in Austin, Tx and she says that we will need to pick him up and go through some training also. I'm actually looking forward to it. Thanks to everyone one there comments and advise, it has been very helpful. My Shih Tzu are still a bit nerves, not eating and having accidents inside ( not normal). |
That's very good news 
IF you feel it's safe... You may want to let your little Shih Tzus have some one-on-one time with the big guy. Maybe if they can learn he won't hurt them they'll be able to relax and get back to a normal eating/potty routine. Just make certain there is no food or no chews/toys that he might be possessive about. I think one-on-one might be best so they learn for themselves Bandit is okay and so they don't rely on one another for confidence. Do the little ones eat in a different room with Bandit out of sight? This might help them to relax during meal time. Quote: We have noticed that Bandit has issues when he is eating and sometimes when you try to push him back, he has snapped at my wife and my oldest daughter but has not really bitten anyone.
Good for you for reporting it to the rescue and for them for setting up help with a trainer. Tell your wife and daughter NOT to mess with him when he's eating or push him back then. He's giving a warning that he doesn't like it and they need to listen. The trainer will be able to see first hand what's happening and help you with ways to hopefully get him past it. Thanks so much for doing a very important job in rescue... fosters can the difference between life and death to a dog. Best wishes to you all! |
| And again thank everyone one for the advise. We found out today how much it matter, when we called the rescue worker, she said that they may have to put him down since he may be a liability... I've only had him for a couple day but I've became very attached already, and he I. My wife says that when I leave or go out side without him, he crys a little. All of the dogs we have now (one female OES and two Female ShihTzu) follow my wife around all the time. They are actually her dogs (presents at different times) and they must know it, but Bandit will be mine and I can't let anything happen to him. He is so sweet and loves attention, just seems to have a couple issues which I hope we can work out. My oldest daughter is going to have a baby in Dec, so I have to make sure my family is safe but if this works, I want to adopt Bandit. |
| Please make safety a first priority. If your wife and daughter need Bandit to do something that he might not want to do, see if they can bribe him to happily comply. Like if they need to pick up his food dish, maybe call him into another room and close the door... then pick up the dish. If then need him to move, don't physically try to move him... ask him to come willingly. Please tell them to never force him to do something. Sometimes you can keep everyone happy by using small tasty treats... maybe slip a few in a small sandwich bag and keep them in their pockets. He may just need to learn that you and your family are not a threat to him... that good things will happen when you're around.
I hope the trainer can help to save this sheepie-boy. Just be VERY careful... especially if a new babe will soon be in the house. If you find there are any problems and he might be put to rest, as a last ditch effort, consider having his thyroid checked. Low thyroid can cause behavior problems... probably not the case but something to consider- http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-ang ... havior.htm . I just saw Bandit's picture and is he ever a big, handsome boy. By the way, Bella deserves to act like a princess because she's gorgeous!
Good luck to you. I'm sure others here can give you more and better advice on how to proceed. |
| OK, we bring Bandit home tomorrow. All the others have been fine since he left and I know that they are going to flip out tomorrow night when we return... I'm hoping for the best. |
| Wishing you lots of luck!! |
| Wishing you all the best too |
| Keeping all sheepie paws and fingers crossed that everything will turn out ...... |
| So far so good, still a little hostility but except for one incident yesterday all has been quite |
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