Are OES's still as mad when they are over 2!!

This is our first dog and we feel we have been pushed at the deep end. We were just wondering if they are still as bonkers when they are fully grown? This puppy stage is very frustrating at the moment as Barney jumps, steals, bites and just generally doesn't listen we have also been told that at 18 months they have a teenage sort of way with them and if anyone is past this stage please could you write to us and tell us what to be expecting.

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My last pure OES was just as wacky at 6 years!

Your puppy needs more exercise. I found when they got really bratty, wearing them out physcially helped. A tired pup has less energy to steal-bite-destroy-bump-bark-dig-etc.

In mean time work on the obedience training. Also try agility, flyball, anything to get the pup working and moving.

Hang in there.

When Ben first moved in we were told OES seem to stay in puppyhood longer than some breeds. We had a Lhasa before him and it was quite an easy training experience. Of course if you didn't like a behavior we could literally pick him up and remove him from the situation...not an option with Big Ben.

At 2 - maybe even at 3 years old - we were still amazed how puppy-like Big Ben was. Lots of energy, mischievous, chewing, jumping, etc. etc. There were many times we thought we were going to lose it because he just wasn't calming down despite the exercise, training and attention.

I can honestly say it's been about a year now (he's 5 1/2 yrs old) that he's been calmer and a better listener. It wasn't easy and I'm certainly not saying he's the perfect dog. (Last night he realized a bone we gave him in the morning was actually edible and growled when we told him it was bedtime. Heaven forbid we interrupt bone time.) But, all in all, he's really developed into a very good dog for our family. A few years ago I would never have said I wanted another OES in my lifetime, now I would love a second if time permitted.

Hang in there...it's worth the wait!!

hi is your dog a brinkly i use to have one by brinkly mr perfect

They do retain puppy like behavior much longer than most dogs I think.... but sometimes if the protien is too high it can result in an overly energetic dog, especially if they're not getting enough exercise. Every dog is different, and I think the household it is raised in makes a big difference too.

Yes, if Henry the maniac dog can grow up so can yours. 18 months was just about the worst time for us. Henry is 3 now and he actually gets tired. However, he still has all his bad habits they just manifest less frequently. And he is still a goofball, thank goodness. I have heard at about 5 they get even better.

Hang in there and good luck!

They remain puppy like for a while - however - there is a difference in "puppy like" (happy, energetic, etc.) and disobedient/untrained puppy like (biting, nipping, jumping, etc.). I suggest enrolling in obedience ASAP or this behavior will never change. Also - not sure if this was mentioned - but has your dog been spayed/neutered - if not - that would be my first suggestion.

JMHO.
Kristen

I have to second,Kristin's post. Will also, add that if you can learn clicker training,it does work wonders.Too much protien, in their diet, is definitely, not a good thing. My Shaggy, is going on 4 years old and he started to calm down at 2 years old.He is a big wigglebutt,it doesn't matter what you are saying to him, his rear end, is shaking up a storm.Pick up a toy and he is on his feet,ready to play,otherwise he is a laidback ball of fur. I let my 4 out to play 3 times a day for 15 minute intervals,and they are content and happy.The girls are 3yrs,3 and a half years and Missy Gumbeaux is 7.

bobsmum wrote:

hi is your dog a brinkly i use to have one by brinkly mr perfect

Yes we have. He's called Barney. Did you watch Crufts this year? if you did Barney's dad was the OES that won the pastoral group! How long ago did you have a Brinkly?

BritPresSyd wrote:

He has been going to obediece classes since he was 11 weeks old and he has progressed into the second class. we have an appointment with the vet this week for a general check up he may suggest neuting but we have heard that this can be risky. BrinklyBarney

LOL!!well my OEs is now 6months old and he is very much full of energy and thats what i love about him.My collie is 2yrs old an dhe is very much a puppy,he keeps up w/ Mickey.I think thats why I love the OES is because they are so big,fluffy,and so irresitable.Im loving every mintue of the puppy stage,just like kids they are only babies for so long then they grow up,so i say enjoy the puppy stage,love them w/ a strong hand,be kind,gentle,and they will grow up.
Good luck!!

we had 1 about 7years ago mr brinkley perfect was his dad fantastic looking dog cos he had zottles in him aswell he was huge

did you get him from pam direct as i am thinking of maybe adding to my family in about 6 months i will have to get on a list soon

The first two or three years are the hardest.....excercise, puppy classes, training classes all help considerably. A tired puppy is a happy upright. The fun part is that you never know when THEY will decide to be grown up. Some suddenly decide overnight that calm is preferable to lunatic! They really are just like any other puppy only on a much grander scale. If you had a chihuahua, you probably wouldn't notice as they are too small to do much damage. Patience pays off BIG in the end. If you can live through the first couple of years, you'll have the BEST friend and companion you could ever hope for....
There is NO set rule for training as each of these guys is different in temperament. If you happen to have one with a stubborn streak, they'll drive you bonkers. My late great Divine Miss Em was one of "those"! She was the ONLY one in 50 some odd years of having these guys around that I tempted to hand over to the first person who said "She's BEAUTIFUL!"! LOL!! She was 3 before she decided to give me a break! The funny (not) part was that she was PERFECT until she turned one...then she decided she had had NO training at all! We had to start over with her... 3 times...In the end, she was the funniest, most independent, most loving girl I've ever had the pleasure of being owned by.
Don't give up, there truly is light at the end of the tunnel! Keep your sense of humor and VENT!! I know there are tons of people on this forum who have or are now going through what you're going through now. Do you have a crate? If you do, use it and just take some time out for yourself. It's really frustrating, but believe me, it's worth it!
Take care,
Cathy

bobsmum wrote:

we had 1 about 7years ago mr brinkley perfect was his dad fantastic looking dog cos he had zottles in him aswell he was huge

did you get him from pam direct as i am thinking of maybe adding to my family in about 6 months i will have to get on a list soon

Hi yes we did get him from Pam direct we had to travel a few hundred miles from our house to essex.

Tanyathenurse wrote:

I do agree somewhere in there, there is a fantastic dog. We researched for many months before buying a OES and nowhere did it mention how bizare their behaviour is thats why we found it so hard. thanks for your reply i'm sure we will hang in there!

where abouts in the uk are you

cos we are going through the puppy stage too bob now 3 months old we have just started puppy class have you any pics

BrinklyBarney, The name Barney has sent me down memory my first sheepie Dudley had a brother who owned my sister named Barney. He was a hoot and a half. For new sheepie owners the book Mother Knows Best has a lot of information it is a guide on how to raise a happy dog. My puppy Oreo will be 3 in December and where the time went I don't know. He is our third sheepie they are all different and at the same time all the same. When we got Oreo I was a stranger to him but I have my memories of Dudley and then Oliver and I knew it would take some time and I would have that sheepie love again that I had mourned for. He is a gift that my husband and I gave each other and the puppy stage is so worth going through and it is the time to build a lasting relationship. He is like the other sheepies he has a Peter Pan peronality which is their charm. Good luck to all the puppy owners and I enjoy your tales of wo and laugh out loud hearing about the puppies on this forum.

bobsmum wrote:

where abouts in the uk are you

cos we are going through the puppy stage too bob now 3 months old we have just started puppy class have you any pics

We are in the south near London. This puppy stage is very fustrating we think because they seem to listen when they want and ignore you when they decide. Where are you from did you travel along way to get Mr Perfect :roll:

Hey Cathy even tho Mickey is only (just about) 6months old,but he is already my best buddy......

barney i didnt mean too sound like your issues w/ your OES puppy isnt a problem I guess I was just trying to say they are babies for a short time,even tho it is hard just try and enjoy it......forgive me if i came across as your problem wasnt important.

hi am in cheshire mine was a wildhair but his dad was mr perfect we were living in devon at the time and traveled to essex which was a long journey i agree with you about the puppy stage :evil:

Tanyathenurse wrote:

No it's ok we didn't think you were being unsypathetic. It's nice to know that there are other people experiencing the same problems!

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