Barking and jumping
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| We went through that with both of ours. AND, it was still going on when they were 8 months old too, so here is what we finally did.
We put them both in our bedroom so that they could hear us talking and laughing. About 20 minutes of that and we would bring one out on a leash. They were to sit a few feet away in a laydown and stay command. If they tried pulling and acting up I would put my hand on their back and gently hold them down. Once they had calmed down and figured out that they HAD to listen to me, I could walk over and let them sit in front of the guest and get petted. If they started getting too wild then they were brought away and made to listen to commands again. (Oh, and treats of any kind did not help them focus.  )
I still want them to bark at anyone who comes up to our house. I feel safer that way, but once I say "no speak" they know that they have done their job and they quiet down. They do get a treat then. LOL Now when we have company they lay there until I say "Go get grandma" or whoever it is and their butt starts wiggling and they go visit. We also use a settle command if they get too excited also. She is still young and it does seem to get better as they get older. She will figure it out, and don't worry about family or friends. Good luck, Stormi |
| yea i think the key is to keep the leash on while shes meeting people for now. make her sit and go down before she can say hello. also try a gentle leader for the barking- it can really work wonders for some dogs (some are more stubborn) if she starts jumping or barking make her sit and settle then reward her with a treat and the ability to say hello!
but hang in there! we hav ea lot of visitors at my house and some popel just love walter and some people think hes just out of control... what it really comes down to is some people are just dog people and understand that tehse animals have perosnalities of their own and are going against their nature by obeying us. it just kills me when people dont love my dog but it takes a really special person to appreciate these animals! |
| As for the spearate room thing Stormi, I'm not sure that would work with Dancer, she is very protective of us and I think she would really go crazy if she could hear us but not see that we are ok.
As for the gentle leader thing, lol, we bought one, and I have used it on other dogs with great success, but Dancer absolutely HATES that thing and will do whatever necessary to get it OFF! LOL I have been calling trainers all afternoon, and all the classes seem to be starting in January, so I signed them up for those, but one trainer, who raises labs, and also happens to be an old family friend, said he might come to my house and do some private lessons with Dancer to help with the immediate problem. He's going to call me tomorrow night. He had some good suggestions, and he knows my dad quite well so he knows what I need. LOL My dad is a perfectionist, expects everyone's animals and children to behave like his. LOL I wish they did! My Dad just has that presence you know.... people and animals seem to automatically respect him... but Dancer, being the typical sheepie puppy she is, thinks that means "Oh impress him, jump all over him and show him how happy you are to see him!" My Dad doesn't speak "sheepie" I guess...lol |
Shanti does the same. But he seats  waiting for the visitors to get in... When they get in the house he starts barking, jumping, and /or runs to get a toy inviting the visitor to play. He does that for the first 10 minutes. Then, he seats wherever we are. |
| The problem I've encountered is you need everyone who is entering the house to participate in the training. I've yet to accomplish correcting this behavior - if you learn of any tips - please share them!
Kristen |
| Hi danik,
Glad to see you around again! Shanti still looks like a puppy. Poor Abbi is getting to looked older. I guess they start showing their age at 6 years. As they get older, sheepies will calm down on their own. Seems everyone is working with their sheepies and trying different approaches out. That's the trick. Just keep trying to figure out what is going to work for your dog. I used to shut Abbi up if she became unruly or too excited. It did not help her much. She would bark and whine so. So instead we did the leash thing, attached a leash and corrected any overly zealous greetings. She still loses it to this day with some people. Not sure why. Mostly she just runs over with the kids, but every once in a while she will stand on her legs and lick my daughters' friends. Here I am fussing with her about it, and the friends are laughing and saying it doesn't matter. Of course it does, but it is nice when peolpe are tolerant. I have noticed little dogs get away with the jumping stuff all the time. And now it annoys me, sigh. Doesn't seem fair that the little yappie dogs get away with so much, while our big furry friends catch so much flack. She never jumps on family any more, but that's because we became strict with her when Angela was 2 and Abbi was 6 months. Wish we could teach others to hold their hands in a downward position instead of squealing when she comes at them. She never jumps if she sees the down command. Root Beer is a different subject though. |
| I can't say Big Ben doesn't get excited when people come to the door but luckily he doesn't really jump on any and and never barks once someone is let in through the front door....
with one GLARING exception...my mother-in-law!! This dog loves her to death and whines and squeals and jumps and herds her right into a corner so she can pet him. Luckily she loves him back. Ben will not listen to us at all when she arrives - nothing will calm him and nothing will quiet him. So, grandma has trained herself to have him meet her outside the house. She will throw his tennis ball down the street a few times and wear him out a little. After a few minutes he is ready for a drink of water and wants to come in the house. Once he has a slurp he still herds her into a chair for a rubbin' but he doesn't jump, squeal or whine. Maybe a good distraction might be an idea? My grandmother always brought my aunt's poodle dog biscuits when she would visit them. At first as a little girl I always thought she was just being a good grandma to the dog....now that I look back it was clearly a distraction to keep the dog from jumping all over her like it did the rest of the family! |
| Hey Willowsprite have you had any luck with this?
Lola seems to be regressing with this too lately. She is barking more and still getting crazy when people come over. Not only does she try to jump and whine, but with some people she won't stop following them around. She keeps going over to them to get attention. I call her back and not 2 minutes later she goes right back. I do make her sit whenever the doorbell rings or when we walk in, it's helping a bit, but needs more improvement. |
| After several torn shirts as I come home from work, my husband has developed a trick that seems to work... as he opens the door, he has a stick ready in his hand, the door opens, Mopsey bounces out...he throws the stick. She runs and brings it back, then he does it again, so she is so busy playing fetch when she is done, she forgets that he or I just came home and doesn't jump. (mostly). LOL |
| That's cute Marley...lol
Actually, I think I have, for the most part, solved this problem with Dancer. I bought a prong collar. I know a lot of people disagree with these nasty looking things, but if you put one around your arm or leg and get the feel of it you will realize it doesn't hurt at all, not even a pinch, it just exerts gentle pressure. Anyway, I bought the collar and special treats to be used only with the collar. I put it on the first day for five minutes, no corrections, and gave her a treat. That evening when I knew my husband would be home from work within a few minutes, I put it on her again, and gave her a treat, and kept her on leash with the collar on til he got home, about 5 minutes later. She jumps on him and is very excited when he comes home from work, so I thought it would be a good starting point. He knew what I was planning, and knew the commands I wanted to teach, so when he came home he calmly stood at the front door when he came in, and when Dancer went to jump I gently tightened the collar and said "Off!" Then I said sit, and praised her and gave her a treat. We then took off the collar and allowed her to greet him, but when she attempted to jump up, when she heard the Off! command she instantly seemed to respond and settled, and then sat at his feet. I did another 5 minute training session with it the next night when he came home, and haven't had to use it since. |
| That's great. I think I have a stubborn one. We have been using a prong collar on her. And it has worked wonders with walking and such. But even if I correct her and tell her off, she'll sit for a second and then attempt to jump again. I wonder if she's getting de-sensatized to the collar. She's getting better, but still needs work. |
| Hey, these tips are great!
Lennon and Sofa are just the same as Shanti, they go crazy for 10 or 15 minutes greeting the visitors, barking and bringing stuff to play and they kinda listen, but still people can get annoyed easily... They also calm down after those awful 15 minutes and then they chill with us... If we still have any guests  |
| I don't know about the barking, but several years ago my son & his wife moved in with me for a while with their 2 dogs (Germ. short-haired pointer and OES) both were used to jump up on people. Each tried it on me several times. Each time they got a swift knee in their tummy when they were up, just hard enough to send them lying on their backs. After several times, I tried to get them to jump. They had learned their lesson. Try it.
Maggie turned out to be a great OES. Now I am presently looking at OES pups for one of my own. From all the comments looks like at age 66 I'm about to adopt a baby!
ggarth |
| I'm so glad to hear that I'm not the only one with a very "happy to see" you OES. Whew!
In our house we have two rules when it comes to arriving at the door. 1) If guest, we prep them in advance that jumping is not acceptable and they are to be firm with our OES with either a knew or down command. This is especially important for our elder relatives. They want to get the loving but I don't want them to break a hip at our front door! 2) When I or Jamie arrive home - we say "wait for it" as we enter the door. The dogs will pounce about impatiently but they know that we need to put out things down (coats, bags, etc) and then we will sit down on the nearest chair and then and only then can the dogs go through their greeting ritual. The frenetic greeting will last for a few minutes and then they are fine. My most favorite boy, Spencer, would take the greeting one step further by practically climbing into my lap with his front two paws and lay against me ... soaking up all the love. I've only know OESs to possess soooo much love! (Hmmm ... biased?  ) |
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