Enforcing from a distance
he either eats my flowers (i just bought this house and spent hundreds of $$$ on landscaping), rolls in my flowers (oh and bushes too!), or just plain mauls my flowers! I go out with him 90% of the time, and I tell him no, and "get out" which the other two dogs understand, but he won't do it. He waits until I get close enough to do something about it and he takes off like a jackrabbit. I fear it has become a game. I don't really want to leash him outside, as he needs to run or I will go insane and so will my other dogs... He knows he is being bad, he's just started playing "mommy can't catch me." he acts like he's not hearing a darn word I'm saying but when he dashes off with devilment in his eye i know he heard every word! and..... how can i get him to leave my other dog in peace?? he is harassing her every waking moment. He is crated while I'm at work, and from the moment he's let out to the moment he gets back in (bedtime) he won't leave her alone. She won't bite him or anything, she thinks he is her puppy and loves him dearly, but when she crawls into my lap (she's not a loving dog in any way) or hides under the bed (another abnormal behavior for her) I know she's had enough. I try to distract with toys, but he's like a t-rex... anything that moves recaptures his attention. I hate to crate him for any longer, he already gets crated about 18 hours a day! thank god puppy daycare will start soon... but it'll only be one day a week because of the expense! |
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| Hi -
I couldn't help but respond to this, although I fear my suggestions are pretty lame, but it worked for us! My last OES, the infamous Penelope, would actually wait until I had finished weeding the garden, watering, deadheading the annuals, and other wise tenderly caring for all the little vines and flowers, she would watch me intently as if she shared my love of the garden, but alas 'no'. When she saw that I was done, she would march right into the coolest, shadiest, flowerbed and 'plop' herself right down, flattening everything that dared lie beneath her! My new OES, Chelsea, was a poop eater when she came to live with us, and she very much enjoyed chewing on anything and everything in the flowerbed, it was wintertime, so she actually killed all kinds of perennials that were all 'stick like' and dormant in the garden. My husband actually told me to give up on the garden for this year. However, because of the poop eating we had to take her out on leash each and every time she was out so that we could monitor what was coming out and making sure she wasn't swallowing it back in. As a result we had lots of time through the spring to tell her 'no' when she got too close to some things. She now has a healthy respect for many of the plants in the garden and only chews on grass and picks up the occasional crab apple. It's a lot of 'one on one' work at first, but it saved my garden this year, she has decided that she needs to be up next to one fence that is near a favorite neighbor, so we are transplanting those plants next year and constructing a little stone path so that she can have her fence time (although it's one of the neighbors who rolls his eyes when he sees her, we call him 'Mr. Wilson' of Dennis the Menace fame, go figure she likes him more than anyone else). That's the best luck I've had with the OES and the garden, she still tramples the annuals from time to time, but she has fugured out to stay away from the roses, herbs, and lilies. When she roots around by her little fence easment she brushes up against the mint (very hardy- the only thing I could think of that could stand up against the OES!)- when she comes back in the house her head smells all 'minty fresh'. 
GOOD LUCK! Up. |
Thanks up....I wasn planning on planting mint...maybe a whole yard full 
But even hardy plants like my hostas look a mess after a summer of trampling. Well I worked on my front yard today, at least that will look nice. Roofus- no real suggestions, but Lola does the same thing to my parents dog. Whenever they puppy sit, she wears Ruby out. She chases and wrestles and herds her all over the place. Can you separate them for awhile (one inside, one outside)? At least maybe your other dog will have a few minutes of peace. |
| I come to this from two angles, one a 35 year sheepie owner and second, as one who was in the landscape business for over 25 years......gosh that makes me ancient.......
Anyway: forget the landscaping for a few years or divide the yard, dog yard, flower yard. Some sheepies (or dogs in general) absolutely can not keep their paws from digging. As for flopping on the petunias, sure, it was nice and cool. SOMETIMES pups will decide certain areas are there and that area can be planted to an abuse tolerant groundcover. Over the years my various generations have decided the shrubs are theirs and have dug basements under each shrub. When I saw this first start up I planted big hardy shrubs, junipers, even though I'm allergic to them because I knew they could take the abuse. My rose garden fell to several "diggers" who resented the bushes catching on their coat. The vegetable garden...............was eaten. Ever see ripe tomato juice roll down a sheepie beard? My front "garden" is now dwarf flowering trees and big flowering shrubs, but even then I keep groundcovers around the base to ward off the males. The flowers and vegetables are in a separate fenced off area. Even still............a certain sheepdog is not allowed in the garden when the plants are small. |
| ok i know it isnt funny to you right now w/ spening hundreds of dollars on your landscapping,BUT my OES did/does the same thing!!when I got him he was so small and cute(still is but he isnt small )it amazed me how fast this puppy DISTROYED ALL of my hostas!!  ever watch gorillas in the mist?how all the plants were still there BUT they were flatten where the gorilla had layed???well there ya go,that was my backyard AFTER mickey spent a week going outside.My friends used to say what a beautiful back yard,what nice hostas you have,then we got MICKEY!!!  The bad thing is he is 5months old,and he hasnt learned a darn thing when it comes to stomping plants,so i just realized Im beating my head against the wall now,in the spring he will be a yr old and w/ my fingers crossed he will be a bit more eager to understand me when it comes to plants.IF he isnt im going to put up a fence aorund my garden.now the other issue ur having.Mickey(5month old OES)Jagger(2yr old collie)when im gone to work about 8hrs a day Mickey is in a crate also,when i let him out he is wild of course and he wont leave Jagger alone,however Jagger WILL bite him when he has had enough,does that stop Mickey??NOPE he wants to play,and he does this for aobut 2hrs til it is all out of his system,if biteing him doesnt stop him jagger usually will play with him til they are both done.now if your leaving your OES in a crate for 18hrs,thats a very long time,and i bet doggie daycare will help alot!!!i have decided to just have tons of fun with mickey even when he is doing something wrong we just move on from it,and just have fun!!just like kids they are only babies once and we all should just enjoy them |
Quote: When she roots around by her little fence easment she brushes up against the mint (very hardy- the only thing I could think of that could stand up against the OES!)- when she comes back in the house her head smells all 'minty fresh'.
LOL. Henry seems to prefer the rosemary--which smells quite nice on his breath. The one I can't understand is the rose canes, even trimmings that haven fallen on the ground and the thorns have hardened to steel sharpness. Henry uses them as chew toys until I notice and take them away. |
Quote: The bad thing is he is 5months old,and he hasnt learned a darn thing when it comes to stomping plants
I have to disagree. From your posts it seems he has leard how to do this perfectly.
Here the dogs get the backyard I get the front. well most of the time. cher |
| A friend in the UK has 2 sheepies. The older one doesn't bother the plants, the younger stomps, digs, and eats them, then laps up the slimy green water in the flower pot saucers. Even containerized plants aren't safe, just a greater challenge. And don't leave an unopened bag of potting soil near by........she'll tear that open and eat it. She's two years old.................and yes, all this misc eating gives her very messy butts. |
| LMAO!!!!!! good idea cher.....i think im going to take the front and he can have the back......God bless our beloved OES!!!! |
| around her it's just the opposite, doggies have the front to guard the front gate, I have the back yard.........what ever works |
Quote: around her it's just the opposite, doggies have the front to guard the front gate
My front fence is so short Neville thinks it is just a hurdle put up for his amusement. LOL If he is outside with me (on a leash) poeple take one look at him and know if i let go he can/will jump. I love it It keeps people away. cher Dogs make better people |
| He sounds so much like Max. I have a hosta garden off my deck and Max loves to sleep in it. And like you, he thinks its a game when I tell him "out" or off. I walk over to him and he just goes off running, and I mean fast, and then he does crazy eights throughout the garden. Some one had suggesting putting rocks/boulders in the garden, but I have not had chance to do that yet. I'll try that next season. |
| Hmmm, I haven't tried this since my current dogs are not gardeners, but have you considered putting an invisible fence around your gardens (instead of the yard to keep the dog in)? This might help prevent the puppy from finishing the mutilation of your plants and save your sanity.
As for your older dog, can you set up some "safety zones" for her where she can go and the puppy can't? This would give her a place for rest and relaxation when the puppy gets to be too enthusiastic. Good luck, Jennifer |
LOL I tought we were the only ones!!  My wife and I gave up on gardening on the back yard. There was no way to stop the monsters from digging, chewing and eating every kind of plant or gras swe tried. Even adult trees!!! They chew them off... sigh.
The ONLY thing that survives is whatever is on a 4 feet high concrete planter we made to keep something green on the yard.... So good luck on controlling your sheepies. I Like gardens, but we LOVE our sheepies more!!! I'm going to be very sad the day that flowers start growing in our yard, cuz then Lennon and Sofi will not be there to chew them  |
We have divided our gardens into two. My dogs have one portion to play and romp around in and we have a 'normal' garden with plants and shrubs and trees etc. Ive recently put in a sandpit in the dogs garden, which although fun for them, errrmmmm mighty interesting from a grooming angle for me - all that sand  |
| i have an invisible fence, but only because my 8 year old can jump 8' fences... i'm not going to shock anybody for going into a garden, especially a puppy. They aren't recommended for use under 6 months anyway.
I have seen several times this dog repellant plant... I know Lowe's sells it, but it's an annual, so I'm not purchasing it this year... I'll give it a go and see what happens next year. it's called dog's gone, a member of coleus... |
| Invisible fences?! How very Bond! I know I'm giong to look very backwards here but can you actually get them/how does it work?!
Feel free to laugh at me, I am a technophobe! |
| Henry's Mom wrote
Quote: The one I can't understand is the rose canes, even trimmings that haven fallen on the ground and the thorns have hardened to steel sharpness. Henry uses them as chew toys until I notice and take them away.
Barney loves Gum Balls; the deader and harder and spinier the better. Been chewing on them since a pup. I have 3 huge gum trees in the yard. Did you ever walk out on the patio at night in your bare feet and step on one?  |
| The invisible fence works like this: A line is buried around your yard. Your dog wears a collar with a receiver that makes a beeping sound when he gets close to the buried line. This is to warn him not to go further. If he goes further he will get a mild "zap". Truman learned with only 1-2 zaps that he does not want to go close to the fence. It doesn't hurt him (my husband tried it out on himself first to make sure!) You can get information on invisible fences from any fence company. They will guide you in the right direction. Good luck! |
| I guess I'm glad I'm not a green thumb, our yard is acceptable, the grass is mowed, we have pretty roses and shrubs, but I don't do lots of gardening in the spring and summer. This will be my first spring/summer with Max and usually I like to put out pots of annuals and succulents, but maybe it'll be a waste of time once he sees all the pretty plants!! I still have him on a lead when I take him out so he hasn't had a chance yet to dig up the beds, but he sure loves to eat the grass and some dirt!! |
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