Genealogy
All of the family seems to have changed their names when they came over. There is nobody left to ask what the names were. 
The ones that are alive have no idea. Then hubby asked me to trace his family. He always complains that he has a small family. I dead ended with his Maternal Grandparents. I was able to get the entrance papers to the US for his Grandfather and that was it.
So I was looking into his Paternal side (His father died in 1991). It seems someone did all the work already at least on his paternal Grandfather's side. I was able to trace his family back to 1160 in England!  All of his Grandfathers and Grandmother's down the line. I traced about 4 generations back and found out that there was already a family tree, that included, his Grandfather.  He has hundreds, in not thousands of cousin through out the US. Pretty wild! I have even been in touch with one of his cousins. 
Anyone else working on genealogy projects? |
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| Elissa, Richard has been doing this for years. He might be able to help you. Give us a call. |
| I took an online class several years ago.
Just be careful about accepting other's work. Some of them change dates or locations on purpose because they don't really want to share their hard work with others. I have a President and several famous outlaws. (Not the same person) |
| yep your right, you need to have proof. |
| I was wanting to do this, until I found out my wonderful, midmannered "Zaddie" (grandfather) was known as the mad bomber with the Chicago Mafia! Ah...I figure, the less I know, the better!!!! (I did find out, my great great great...whatever, grandfather was one of the navagators on Christopher Columbus' ships. He had gotten his crews from the Spanish prisons during the Spanish Inquistion, when all Jews were throw in jail. I did know, prior to that, that we are of Spanish (Hasitic) decent). |
I have been doing this for a few years and have my dads maternal side back to 1475, altho a bit of it is someone elses work and as many just invent a connection to people I really don't want to rely on that so will have to do a bit of browsing for myself. It can be as contagious as this forum  |
| Can you believe there is documentation for all of the records?
I am going to go back and verify and double check make sure they all add up. As far as I see they all do.
Someone else created a genealogy page for the same family and all the info matches with the first person too. Except they branch off at Billy's Great Great Great Great Grandfather and go with the Kentucky part of the family. |
| Elissa, if you go to the Ellis Island website, they have a lot of the records of immigrents that came to America. You can do seaches. |
| Elissa you can also buy Parish Records and search them yourself, you can get them on disc or microfiche. The older they get the harder they are to read . Most records other than parish records for England start at 1837 . Here is a link to a lot of b/m/d's for England from 1837 to 1983
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ |
| If any of you need "look-ups" I have a world wide membership to ancestry.com.
Can't get my father's side "over the pond" but I'm there for Carl's family (he was born in England). I volunteer with the group doing the transcribing of the Census' in England so that there will be free access for everyone. I'm "in" the Birmingham area during 1861 right now....interesting stuff. Watch out...it can be very addicting! |
| I did some transcribing for the freebmd for England and here's a link to some christenings and deaths 1813/1899 from Parish Registers that I did for Blendworth Hamshire if anyone is searching that next of the woods
http://www3.sympatico.ca/jeanearl/Genes/blend.htm |
debcram wrote: Elissa, if you go to the Ellis Island website, they have a lot of the records of immigrents that came to America. You can do seaches.
No luck, but thanks Deb. We have no idea how the names were spelled.  I even did the sounds like search and came up with nothing. My paternal Grandfather came in through Canada, no luck there either. |
| Hi Elissa,
One of the best places to go and do geneology research is the Morman Church. Because of the beliefs of the church it is very important to know your ancestors. You DO NOT gave to be Morman to use their facilities and they have one of the most extensive genology libraries in the world in Salt Lake City. Most Morman churches have a small library and either a volunteer or someone on staff who is very knowledgable about geneology can assist you. They can and do request materials from the main library in Salt Lake City for minimal fees. My Mom and I did a very extensive geneology project that took us over seven years to complete. They were the best source of information we found. We did make some small monetary donations to the location Morman library we were using and they were very grateful. Don't give up on your research! Check out various spellings, different dates and information that may not look pertinent on the surface, but can yield a gold mine underneath! Happy family ancestor hunting! Kathie |
| Elissa,
Kathie is correct about the LDS geneology assistnace. Another source is the State Historical Society. My great-grandfather is consider a pioneer in Oklahoma - there are wonderful interviews, pictures, copies of the newpapers he started. And I found some genealogy work on my dad's side - a distant cousin spent time in the 40s and 50s driving around the country for info (can you just imagine the time and effort she put into it). Our local library has a genealogy section, with a wonderfully active volunteer group. They are very helpful. And they have monthly meetings with a focus on various subjects. They offer online links that I don't have access to any other way. They can alsp order microfilms for you to view (for a small cost). |
| My SIL did our family and hers, it took YEARS. A couple years ago she literally gave me a book of her research, hundreds of pages. I've glanced through it but never really got interested in it. Someday, maybe. |
| Thanks for all the great tips!! You guys ROCK!
One of Billy's cousin's emailed me today. She is related through Billy's Great Great Great Great Grandfather. Her Great Great Great Great Grandfather was the brother of Billys. We now have a standing invite to Indiana... Also heard from another cousin yesterday, she's in Missouri. We also have an open invitation there too.
I also found out some bad new today. I was doing Ryan's (My son) Tree and searched for his Great Grandmother's (on his Dad's side) info so I could add her and found out she died in April. My Ex pleaded with me to send Ryan out in April and said his Grandmother was dying, but was holding out to see Ryan. I send him April from April 4th - 15. She died April 6th. Don't know if she saw Ryan. I am upset my ex-husband didn't tell me, and I had to find out this way.   I wonder if Ryan even knows? The saddest part was she was his last living Great Grandmother. |
| My husband had a strange insident happen regarding geneology, the family tree on his father's side.
As most of you know, we moved from Michigan to Florida about 4 1/2 yrs ago. After we had made our move our son Aaron had an appointment with his specialist in Michigan.....so my husband Chuck and Aaron flew back to Macomb Twp, Michigan for his appointment and to visit family. After Chuck/Aaron had signed in to get some bloodwork done, the lady standing behind Chuck said are you "Tallman" and he said yes. She said is your family from Cheboygan? Chuck said that his family history goes back to Cheboygan. She said "well I'm your cousin". and so they went on to discuss what side of the family they where from. As it turned out....she and Chuck's grandfathers where brothers. She said there are still a lot of his family up in Cheboygan. (the driving distance between Macomb Twp and Cheboygan are many hours) There is a town, school, park and farm named after their last name. He also found out that his family migraited from Quebec Canada as LaGranger. Many changed their last name to Tallman, but some retained the name of LaGranger. It is a small world! |
| I thought I would update this since I have had lots of success.
In the past few months I have finally found the family of hubby's Mom's Grandfather. I knew the guy's name but no date of birth or death. But I finally found the right guy and one of the people in the family even has Billy's Grandmother listed in the descendancy chart so I knew for sure. My MIL is now in contact with her long lost family.
As for my Dad's father's side. I thought I had hit a brickwall and had been stuck for what seems like forever. A few weeks ago I was at my parent's house and I grabbed a whole bunch of old pics to scan. There was a woman I did not know so I asked my Dad who she was. He said, "Oh, that's Isabella, but I do not know how she was related. He thought since she was pretty close to his Grandmother that she might be related on that side (Not so). He told me she had two kids and gave me the names. I did find their names and they were still living in NY, but unlisted. This past weekend Dad got home from a trip and I told him my disappointing news. Then he says, "Isabella had a sister, Claire."
So I asked, "Was she related too?" and he says Yes.
He said I could probably get in touch with her son in NJ. Well it would have been nice if he had told me that before. Fast Forward two days.... I spoke with Claire's son, Paul, Monday evening. He did not know how we were related but remembers my Dad and his parents very well. He gave me phone numbers for Isabella's 3 kids. Dad had only remembered two of them. He also gave me birth dates, addresses and cousin's names. But the most important thing he gave me was his Grandparent's names. It was too late to call anyone else that night so I was going to call them Tuesday. With the help of my cousin Bob (my Paternal Grandmother's side of the family and a fellow genealogist) we were able to find records of Paul's Grandparents and it turns out they got married in NYC in 1907. I got this info in an e-mail early Tuesday morning. We also found out that Paul's Grandmother's maiden name was Kaplan.  That means she was my Great Grandfather's sister.  Isabella and Claire were my Grandfather's first cousin's.
Tuesday I contacted my cousin Peter, Isabella's son. He was so excited that I called, just as Paul had been. Peter too said he had no idea how we were related. I clued him in as I had just found the connection. He was so thrilled to have this info and to have found a new cousin. Peter told me about his children and Grandson. He also told me about his sister's daughter. I have a call into her, but we keep playing phone tag. When I do finally talk to her I am going tobe so happy. She is the closest in age to me of any of my cousins on both sides of my family.
I then called Peter's brother David, David was not home but I had a nice conversation with his wife. David called me Tuesday evening and we talked for hours. He knew his Grandmother's maiden name was Kaplan. Too bad Dad didn't remember him, as he was actually listed in the phone book. David has sent me tons of pics, invited me to come to NY and stay with him.
I ordered a copy of his Grandparent's wedding license from NYC archives which has to list their parent's names. So in 4 to 6 weeks when it arrives from NYC I will have the name of my Great Great Grandparents  and hopefully some more clues.
David and my Dad also said we had close cousins that had lived in Brooklyn for a period of time then moved to South Africa. Dad only knew the last name, but David knew first names. I believe the wife was also a sister of David's Grandmother and my Great Grandfather. I have a good friend from South Africa that I used to work with and he has provided some wonderful hints for me. I currently have 568 people in my family tree. Though 90 percent are Billy's family, I am having a blast. |
| Elissa, that is so cool!!! I wish I had the patience to attempt that. |
| Thanks Deb!
I do have so say that most of the work had already been done on Billy's side by other cousins and they shared all their info and records.
There are so many of them and my MIL's family and FIL's family both date back to the mid 1600 on the East Coast so there were TONs of records on them, which made it a lot easier. The hardest part was finding my MIL's Grandfather's parent's names, which took almost a year. Once I had that it was a breeze. I wish my family was that easy. |
| I've done quite a lot of geneological research in England especially. All advice about being careful about names and spellings applies. Records in England older than the first census are usually found in parish records where they survivie.
My ancesters are also from the continent and there are various organizations that have done extensive research into family histories, especially since 1945. Other members of the kin group are also good sources of information which all the same must be verified. For instance, I was told that my father's family name was invented. When I found records from the country and area from which our family came, there was our family name, spelled a little differently but very recognizable! Sometimes, the best place to hide something is in plain sight! |
| Luckily both of my husband's families (Mom's Maternal Grandfather's family side and his Dads) both have DNA family project which proves relations.
I had had his Dad's side back to the 1100's in England ,but the DNA project has disproved these records. But they were for sure from England. Just way too many people with the same names. But we do have his Dad's side for sure back to the 1600's in Virginia. With records to back it up. His family was also one of the early settlers of Missouri and there was quite a write up about them in the History is Missouri.
His Mom's side have records going back to Parish records in the 1700's from the Parish of St. Mary the Virgin in the town of Little Wymondley, Hertford County, England. There are more ancestors matched by DNA going back further but no records of their direct ancestry. I love this stuff!!! (Since we are on the subject, I would also like to thank Michele (Carl's Wife) for her help! If it wasn't for her I would have lost touch with one of Billy's closest relatives I have been able to find to date (My computer went down)... THANKS MICHELE!!! ) |
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