That is until recently...... now he doesn't come at all. This morning he refused to come back after playing on the field with his friends!! It took me 35 minutes to get him back and that was only because someone else caught him for me. the first lady who caught him let him go cause he was cute!!! He would stand still and I would shout for him, I walked away from him, I chased him (pure frustration at this point) I shouted in many different tones for him. I threw his toy for him, I threw sticks for him, I jumped up and down! I threw his lead at him (again pure frustration and almost tears!!) I did everything every text book and trainer tells you to. It made no difference to him at all, he just didn't want to come back. I walked and ran around the field for the entire time trying to get him back! he would just get close then run off again! So he has burnt his bridges I have ordered a long line for him and until he learns to come back he is back on a lead which he will not like at all but I can't take any risks as I know he won't come back when I need him to! So it's back to training and any tips would be useful otherwise my next post will be....... NAUGHTY SHEEPIE FREE TO GOOD HOME On the plus side it's weight watchers tomorrow so i may have just burnt some extra calories!! |
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Hi Vickie,
I know exactly what you are going through, Porridge did it and now Ted is being really selectivly deaf It sems to occur during adolecence so last week we had Ted neuterd, he had been really disobedient and ran into a complete stranger and knocked him flying......really bad. This week we are starting on remedial training tactics....small tasty treats during walks when he comes to his name not just at the end when it is time to go home. I put him back on the lead before the end of the walk in different places so he doesn't get used to being attached in one place. We also try to take Ted out before meals so he is hungry and the type of treats we use are really smelly and tasty...cheese...frankfurter...anything pongy and tasty. Keep up the praise too. Another trick which always duped Porridge was to pick up a stone, he thought is was a ball and would run back to us imediately thinking it was a game. I know how infuriating it can be........Good luck |
Thanks Lindy
George has even stopped coming up to us mid walk to get a snack/treat! We too are going back to basics to see if that helps. he is just testing to see what he can get away with! This all started last week when one of our neighbours was looking after a friends dog and he is looking for her! Hopefully his new long lead will come this week so we can get him running about but on a lead but in the meantime he is on a short rein in all areas! |
Ahhhh yesss...I remember those days well....
Wait. What am I saying? I'm still IN those days. That's why my two wigglebums are NEVER off leash outside a fenced yard. I just can't ever tell when they'll decide to play the "keep away" game and run from the leash for no other reason than it is entertaining to watch Mom chase them. Now days, when Beaureguard doesn't want to come in (keep in mind, this game is played only in the safety of his fenced back yard), he lets me get right up to him before he darts away and then play bows at me, like "come & get me Mom!". My ploy is to stand there patiently waiting until he gets bored with NOT being chased until he finally comes to me and puts his head in my hands. Sometimes this takes 15-20 minutes though, but I feel as if by refusing to play the game, somehow, I win. Good luck. You're doing the right thing. Keep him on leash and work on his return with the long lead. He'll get it - eventually. |
Gee, it’s great to see that I am not the only one with this problem. At five months Bella could be off-leash while we walked in the park and would come back most of the time when we called. Gave her lots of praise, treats. Now some alien being has taken over her body. She would go out with me to get the paper in the morning and we’d walk back in the house and I’d fix her breakfast. Now she runs behind the neighbor’s tree and will not come when called and plays chase. Needless to say, now off leash time is restricted to the back yard. We still go to the park and get the paper but ALWAYS on a leash.
We are starting the process of finding a trainer in the Denver area but it sure is nice to see that I am not the only one with a disobedient clown for a sheepie, Oh I forgot that is in the breed spec’s. |
"Let's go for a ride in the car!" has worked for us in the past...
Or just going to the car and opening the door... Training on a long lead may help. Never say "Come" without being able to enforce it. (I'm just going to continue to spout great advice that we've ignored over the years...) |
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Bosley is a doll. and comes to us all the time...even mid-play.....Brag...brag....brag.... Dixie is a brat, and has now been barred from dog parks because she NEVER comes back. We have to get the whole park involved with catching her. She loves the game and we hate it. When we went on vacation, for off-leash walks on the beach she wore a harness and dragged a long line. We figured that if she did take off she would get caught up in some bushes so we could get her that way. Betwen the age of 5 months to a year or so you are dealing with a teenager who is ready to explore the world! Don't take any chances that you might regret. I love my Bosley boy.....he is so reliable.....Dixie is...well...NOT..... |
Dutch is 9 mos now and the only loose time she has had is when we get to the driveway then I will let go of her leash and she will run straight up the driveway and up the stairs to the door and stand there looking over her shoulder to make sure I'm coming, and thats all I have had nerve for yet |
Our trainer taught us when this happens to call the dogs name , then run away from the dog, the dog should run after you, then tons and tons of praise when he reaches you. It works for us. |
loried, you just stole my story. Simon is pretty reliable now but...for a few months in the winter(cold, snow) he did not want to come in the house. I would open the door and call him and then take off. He came running almost every time. I think he came running just to see where I had gone, LOLOL We go to the dog park almost every day now and a few times when going to the car, he would look back at his friends still playing and I say DON'T EVEN think about it. So far, so good. |
Sorry Vicki I don't have any new advice to add to what everyone else has said but you can have my sympathy! Not something Daisy ever did but I can only imagine your frustration, especially if it was a morning walk and you needed to get to work on time!
Good luck with the long lead! |
I took George out last night and he was great! He was playing with 3 dalmations (who he adores) and each time I shouted of him he came straight back! I gave him treats and praised him and all was well!
When he went out this morning with my husband he did off again! I think a change of venue for walks in the morning may be called for!!! |
Vicki, I see what the problem is now , Dalmations are a very bad influence ...LOL
I had a Dalmation (Adora was her name )for 16 years till she went to the rainbow bridge 2 years ago. I loved her to pieces but my God that dog was the most stubborn dog I have ever had! She would run away from me when she was a little pup till she was a old lady . Finally I just stopped chasing her and she would come home when she was good and ready. Antoinette |
I agree with Ron I open the van door and she comes in. I do have a treat and show Sammi before we leave the house to the van and she goes there and then before we leave the van a show her another and she goes to the door perfectly. But she will not do this with my husband she will sit by the van and wait for me. If we are going for walks in the forest, we walk there and then off the lead they go and do very while and when we leave on the leads go. We do not have parks for dogs here. So that I do not deal with. |
When your dog is running from you it is a "leap of faith" to turn around and run to the car, but it can be a better course of action than chasing your dog into the street. |
I tried everything but he didn't care I think he knew deep down that I wouldn't leave him!!
My trainer told me when he was little to get him off the lead as he was more dependant and would come back which he did! He obviously has confidence now so thinks he doesn't have to come back!! I have been playing new games with him which incorporates calling him back and he gets loads of praise! They have worked but I need to keep changing them as he has the concentration span of a worm and gets bored very easily! I hope it is just a phase he will grow out of and with lots of praise and training he will get the idea! |
lol: Ah ha! Wiloughby is in good company. When he was little, he always came when I called him. But at about 10 months of age, one rainy evening, he decided that he wouldn't ! After 20 minutes and both of us soaking wet I told him that was the last time he'd go out at night without a lead. In the day time, I found that if I sat on the stairs and ignored him, he'd come over as I always had a treat for him. Now, even in our little pocket handkerchief of a garden, when it's time to come in, he dodges and dives around. The look on his face is very funny: I swear he grins at me.I don't encourage him as he can get so excited, he nips. So back to his lead for a few days.I'd never walk him without it. |
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