Crate at night or bed with us?

O.k., here it is. We've had Wrigley for 4 days. Days go great but at night, he howls at the moon in his crate. It's a HUGE wire crate but is currently divided for his size. My husband even sleeps on the floor next to it in our bedroom so he feels better about being close to one of us.

Last night, my husband said that he thought he'd get more sleep if Wrigley just slept with us. Is this a bad idea?? We plan on not crating once he's REALLY well potty trained but I don't want to make the mistake of letting him sleep outside of the crate if some of you have had experiences that you could share about the negatives of this, if any??

And just to be honest, yes, it's Wrigley's big blue eyes that just haunt me when he's howling at the moon in his crate..............

Thanks for any input!!
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Take it from me who has a blue eyed sweetie....dont do it! keep the crate in your room maybe, but once the bed thing starts, it may never go away....
Just remember that cute little puppy is going to be a great big dog someday. If your bed is big enough fine but asw Darcy said what you start now will be FUREVER.

If you want him crate trained now is the time to do it, the older the harder.
Also, the crate is really useful even after potty training is done. It is a great place to keep the dog safe if you ever have service people come to your house or if you have friends with young kids that may not be experienced in being around a dog. When your pup gets a bit taller, it will also help you control counter surfing and garbage raiding. I also use Maggie's crate for brief time outs when she is being bratty. It is a great idea to get your pup used to it as a joyful place to enjoy treats and relax. If you can help your pup learn to tolerate or even enjoy the crate, it will have many benefits down the road. . .
I agree with them all. I made the mistake of letting Flannigan sleep with us. ( not a oes ) COCKER/RETREAVER/ that was 10 years ago :cry: he has taken over our king size bed. we have a hard time even getting close to each other, he wiggles right between us. So think twice if you want this.
We will do the crate then......but, how often should he REALLY need to go out? We did the alarm clock thing and the warm water bottle, too. However, the night before last, Wrigley wanted out every hour and a half. My husband took him out each time and he did pee but as far as if he really needed to or not, I dunno.

How can you really tell they need to go potty and it's not just them wanting out??

Also, how often should he be in it during the day?? We put him in it for a half hour today, that's all. Not sure if that's enough time??

Thanks for all your help!
Our Darcy is 4 1/2 months, we take her out about every 2-3 hours during the day, we take up the water about 9 PM and her last time out is 10:30.
We crate her then and she is good till 6AM. we crate when she get nuts running around to much with the other dogs. Also when we go out. So far its been about 3 1/2 hours or so.
Spend some time and search this section of the forum. There are several good suggestions on crate training, and especially dealing with crate issues at night.

We (me) slept on the floor for two weeks next to the crate so he could see me. Others have pointed the crate at the bed so your pooch can see he/she's not alone. Others just ignore the wailing.

My non-suggestion/insight into how many times to go out? You will know. No reason to set the alarm for every two hours. Your guy might be one of the lucky ones and sleep through the night. But if he is going out and going to the bathroom everytime, even if he REALLY didn't need to go out, you still need to PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE!
Take it from someone that totally spoiled her dog rotten as a pup - DON'T DO IT! DO NOT CAVE INTO GUILT! :twisted: If you would like to know why, I would be happy to send London to you for a week or two. :twisted:
Thanks to all of you, once again! We are going to read on this forum and try to find some tips to making Wrigley more comfy or whatever we need to do right now to make him feel secure at night.

I'm sorry to report that last night, my husband fell asleep on the couch with Wrigley and was only woken up one time for a potty break. So, he slept from 11:00 to 2:30 and then from 2:30 until 6:00 - we all got lots of sleep but I showed my husband the responses, etc.

We also had to take Wrigley to the vet tonight and it turns out that he has a virus of some sort. He threw up today several times and then also when we were taking him to the vet in the van. He got a shot of antibiotics and also has to take some pills orally.

Who knows, maybe his sickness was making him uncomfortable in his crate??

Thanks again!
Sorry to hear the little fellow isn't feeling well. :( Keep us posted on his progress. :)
George sleeps upstairs with us but not on the bed, although in the mornings he always comes for a cuddle for ten minutes then gets off again!!
I had the same problem with Brutus and someone on this forum suggested that I bring the crate in our bedroom and what a difference! now he is 4 months and when I am ready to go to bed he instantly goes in his crate. For the last 3 nights I do not have to close his door and in the morning he is still in his crate.
Hang in there..it does get easier
BatonRougeSheepies wrote:
Take it from someone that totally spoiled her dog rotten as a pup - DON'T DO IT! DO NOT CAVE INTO GUILT! :twisted: If you would like to know why, I would be happy to send London to you for a week or two. :twisted:


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