Introducing Dogs to Each Other
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| Hi Lynn,
I dunno but having an intact male and intact female sounds like you're going to have your hands full. If one was fixed you wouldn't have the impending problems you're going to have. Is it possible to have the female fixed before she arrives? I think that's the responsible thing to do. I can only forsee having those two in the same proximity is going to bring a lot of work and your boy may injure himself , trying to get at her if they are separated such as chewing at the fence or doors if she comes into heat as well as possibly getting into fights with others that may be drawn to her scent. I can't even imagine the stress of being vigilant 24/7 to ensure that doesn't happen. Dogs will mount not only for mating but also to show dominance over another and it's recommended an OFF is the best way to handle this. Some dogs are okay about it while others may challenge the one who is mounting and is an anecedent for a fight. Getting dogs to meet on neutral territory is always the best way to introduce new dogs to each other. Even a romp in the park together before taking them both home will have far more success. Home territory is very difficult as dogs will naturally try to protect their home turf although some members here have been lucky enough to have it happen successfully. You can imagine if your hubby brought someone home with him one day without preparing you for it in advance. However if you had met the friend and enjoyed a social time with them beforehand , chances are you'd be more receptive to having them stay at your home. Sorta the same thing with dogs. Separating them for lengths of time usually will only cause resentment. |
| On the other hand we always have just brought the new dog home, told the others to be nice and its worked. Intact females for the most part are not a problem and we have had intact males, neutered males and intact females in the house at the same time - the only disagreements have been between the females, as always. And I am not sure where responsibility comes into play - we have never had any puppies. |
| Hi Again,
Forgot to mention that unless you're a breeder there's no reason why there should be an intact male and female in the home. I'm coming from a rescue perspective, currently have 13 in my home at the moment. I've been absent for a while and perhaps you are planning on showing them and that may explain your reasoning. I don't mean to insult you , just trying to understand. 
Marianne |
| Thanks Guys for your thoughts. Having an intact male and female is not a choice - they are show dogs - usually I send one of them to my friend's house - for the three weeks - as he has a great set-up. I understand from a rescue perspective believe me - I tell everyone to spay/neuter asap....but that is not a choice here. And a "romp in the park" sends chills down my spine. I would NEVER EVER allow any of my dogs off lead - the alternative is for me to be like the kid tied to the chair by the Indians running around him with "leads". No, it has to be done in the yard - and it was always so hard for me because I had two really strong Alpha Bitches....two bitches is usually problematic - my poor Lab bitch didn't care what number she had as long as she had a number and food, but my Malamute bitch was touch and so was my OES bitch. Just found out the newbie will be here around the third week in July - so I will start preparing my Luc for a pal. There have been lots of other dogs in the house, but have kept them separate from Luc - except for the couple of trys in the dog run. Know they will eventually settle and since neither is being specialed at this point, not too much damage can be done...famous last words. Thanks All. Lynne |
| Hi Again Lynn,
Thanks for explaining the situation and yes you're right about being concerned regarding off leash in parks. Sorry, I should have clarified off leash dog parks not regular parks. Even if you don't have one in your area ..perhaps a walk around the neighborhood on leashes. Walking side by side with a friend to maybe help you out may eliviate any problems before taking them home. Hope it all works well for you and let us know how things work out. Marianne and the boys |
| Well the two will meet on neutral ground after all - at the Owensboro Ky shows in July - that will be quite a site - two old ladies - four OES and only three tables.....not pretty....and did I mention I have a spinal fusion and a horrible cervical spine??? So never twist and bend...both my back problems came at dog shows - so easy to do it really....be careful. I will let you know if any blood is spilled. |
Best wishes lynne, I have a pack of girls together find it easier especially when they are in heat. No boy worries then.  
A good friend of mine has 5 dogs and 3 bitches at home and all get on famously. She also babysits others OES that come in from New Zealand to be shown here and never had any problems bringing into the home another. I think the main thing is to be attentive to the ones there and the new one being introduced to the household and share equally special times with each and everyone and then no jealousy issues arise.
When her bitches are in heat, that is the time she is really careful and segregates them well away from the boys. Even pottys them in an area well away from where the boys play. Hard time then as the boys usually go off there food and carry on a bit with plenty Oooorooos etc.
I would definately have them outside on a leash at first and just getting them familiar to each other under your control and as they say little steps bit by bit till they are getting use to each other, then you can advance to no leads and out together in the yard for 10 minutes here and there under your watchful eye. Then if no problems you can advance the time in the yard they are having together. Always feed seperately too until you work out if there is going to be any food issues there between them. When they are comfortable there they can be fed together if no problems arise. I can understand your boy falling apart at the show with a bitch in season, seen that a few times at shows.
I would also say Luc is a dominant boy with him mounting the dog and bitch. So that is maybe a thing that needs to be worked on when your new girl arrives with lead control on both of them and teaching Luc DOWN if he tries it or letting the bitch put him in his place if he does try it on her. Sometimes it is easier to let them work that one out as long as he is not continually trying to mount her outside..
Best wishes I am sure all will go well, they love being with there own breed and little steps forward to introductions and getting them use to and happy with each other.
Look forward to hearing how all goes when your girl arrives. |
| Good advice and thank you....the food thing I always do separately - I have had five at once, but never an intact male - but two mals, lab, and OES - lot of Alpha Bitch behavior - which I will not tolerate!!! The only Alpha Bitch in my house is ME. The good news is that we will meeting the TWO sisters now out of town at shows in Kentucky, so with all the other people and dogs coming they will be meeting on neutral ground. I do know never to say NO to a stud dog when he is mounting anything, even though it is not allowed - so I just pull him off and tell him down or stay, neither of which he understands, but he does it....he lived with the girl who has the puppies - she manages our "farm team" and his pals were two intact males and cats...so should be okay...when she comes into season, I can send either of them to my friend's kennel here in town - Clussexx Clumber spaniels - the Clumber that won Westminster was his breeding, so he has a wonderful set-up. Would probably send Luc....don't need to have that problem. Thanks so much for the advice, I appreciate it. Lynne |
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