Has any one used "BarkBusters"
1. She does not come when she is called. 2. She jumps up on people when she meets them, Not kids however. 3. She takes things that are not hers and occasionally chews on them. 4. She jumps up on the bed even after she has been told to get off. We had an OES, Sydney, that we had to put down after 14 years. We did not know how spoiled we were. We are at our wits end and considering options to the training that we have done. As I have said she is the worlds biggest sweet heart and a wonderful dog. She "just has some dominance issues" according to our vet. We are considering "BarkBusters" and I am soliciting opinions. Bellas Dad |
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| I've never heard of bark busters, sorry!
Have you been through a local obedience class? How old is Bella? |
| You didn't mention how old Bella is. What you are describing is very typical of most young OES. We DO get spoiled by our senior dogs, Our Maggie McGee IV was the absolute BEST dog and she, too, lived just weeks short of 14 yrs. old.
I have never heard of BarkBusters but from the info googled, it sounds like a dog training "chain". Not that that's good or bad, just that it's unusual that they haven't been mentioned on this forum.  If it sounds too good to be true, it could easily be...
Bella definitely needs some additional obedience training regardless of any previous training. Try to get recommendations from local kennel or obedience clubs, use positive reinforcement and be patient and consistent. Any other information you could provide about Bella would help us to help you. |
Bellas Dad wrote: Bella is a wonderful dog. She is the worlds biggest sweet heart but >>> 1. She does not come when she is called. 2. She jumps up on people when she meets them, Not kids however. 3. She takes things that are not hers and occasionally chews on them. 4. She jumps up on the bed even after she has been told to get off. We are considering "BarkBusters" and I am soliciting opinions. Bellas Dad Number 1, 2 and 4 are all things that you can train for. Number 3 is mostly management. So for the items 1, 2 and 4, let us know what you have be doing to train her in this area. It hasn't worked so maybe we can offer alternatives. Bellas Dad wrote: As I have said she is the worlds biggest sweet heart and a wonderful dog. She "just has some dominance issues" according to our vet.
Bellas Dad She sounds like a wonderful gal. Just be careful that some training methods will change her behavior in a negative way. She may be trained to do what you want, but that wonderful girl may change to something different, and you might regret it. Use postive methods only, to prevent that. And with all due respect to your vet, these are not dominance issues. They are normal sheepie stuff, that she needs training in. |
Bellas Dad wrote: Bella is a wonderful dog. She is the worlds biggest sweet heart but >>>
1. She does not come when she is called. 2. She jumps up on people when she meets them, Not kids however. 3. She takes things that are not hers and occasionally chews on them. 4. She jumps up on the bed even after she has been told to get off. Bellas Dad Are you sure she isn't London's sister? 1-4 plus about 50 more things and you have described London perfectly.   |
| Barkbusters is in Australia are you from there?
If so then they are a reputable one on one personal training for you and your dog.  |
| They have a Bark Busters out here in Colorado as well. I have no experience with them nor anyone I know. I do see them quite a bit though. Sorry I cant be of anymore help. |
| We have them in the Madison area. I have not tried them but another training group that I would highly recommend. |
Our neighbors used them but no barking has actually been busted.  |
| Bella is 6 months old.
After I talked to BarkBusters they are a bit on the expensive side for their services so we plan to look elsewhere. We live in Denver and there are several options. |
| I would just like to say that George is also 6 months old and he does EXACTLY what you have described Bella doing!!
I have taken loads of advice from people on the forum and the best thing I have learnt is that you haveto be consistant no matter how much you feel you have to have to repeat yourself! I take George to training classes, however it is the consistancy of training him at home is what is working best!! |
| My Beauie is 7 mos old and those are his favorite behaviors. Especially the taking things that dont belong to him!!! Then when caught he lays on them as if to say "who me?? I didint do it!!!" Just like a little kid. My husband trained dogs in the USAF and one thing we have learned is training Shepherds is a whole heck of a lot easier than sheepies. Sheepies like being comedians and it is so hard not to laugh even when they are being naughty. I can sympathize with you. I want to train Beauie to be a good sheepie but I dont want his happy go lucky comedic spirit broken. Its too much fun! |
| We're actually thinking about making the investment and trying the guys out! They're one of the largest training companies in the country, and have a very good rep. The particular guy we're thinking about using has really gotten good reviews from several of our friends.
My neighbor has a terror, and they've done all sorts of training with it. I can vouch for them practicing with the dog nightly too when it comes to healing and they're hardly the passive type of owners. I'm always secretly thinking about how my friends are doing things "wrong" from everything I've learned on here and through time, but I can't say that about our neighbor. The dog has turned into a lil Lassie of sorts, and I'm rarely impressed with a dog trainer. We'll have to let everyone know if we decide to use them. They are pricey, but the price is for a lifetime amount of home training visits. |
| Before I would invest any money in this particular training group, and I am not familiar with them at all, I would ask if I could observe a class or two, maybe meet the instructor and ask questions of what methods they use for training. Not all trainers are "nice". Positive reinforcement training works best - especially with OES. And your's is quite young so you certainly wouldn't want to have her go to classes with instructors who use harsher methods.
Do they train your dog or are you an active particpant? If they do the training instead of you you may find yourself in a situation where the dog will listen to them but not you. Plus, most behavior training is really for the human. Our dogs are trained by us every minute of every day and unless we know what we are doing wrong, we can't teach them. As a long time participant in obedience training, dog sports and competiton obedience trials, I suggest you be sure to "interview" any trainers and at least observe them in action. I've seen some dogs literally ruined by trainers using a firm hand then they can handle. Again, I have no idea how this particular group trains and I am not suggesting they do anything inhumane or harsh. As with any training group, I think its wisest to observe first. Good Luck. |
| The first session is 3hrs, and it's completely free. They go over every single thing they plan on teaching your dog "AND HOW" ...with nothing left uncovered. Then you decide to call back or not ...at which time you pay.
Your sessions do not end and can be as many times a week as necessary to train you, and they keep coming back to your house for the lifetime of your dog ...if something becomes reoccurring or a new behavior develops that you do not like. I've been to more training sessions than I can count in the past. This is the first I've heard of around here where everyone seems to be happy, and after personally talking to the guy ...I felt intrigued enough to listen instead of waiting for them to finish rambling about things "new dog owners" typically don't know. We'll see!! We may decide not to call until after the baby comes. There are only a few things we really would like help with that we have not been able to control, but would take advantage of their services with other things since it would be paid for. |
I agree with Ashley. 
Just because this group charges big bucks doesn't mean they are good. Our trainer was wonderful and began her career at Petsmart and started up her own school. Some of the best trainers around here actually volunteer at a local obedience training center and it costs very little for quality training. Seeing what Bark Busters has to offer is intriguing. If you take them up on the free deal please let us know what you think of them. |
| I'd be interested in what they say at the free session as well. Anyone willing to give three free hours of their time to explain what and how they will be training is an offer I guess you can't refuse!
With your last statement about waiting until the baby comes, I assume one is on way soon Congratulations! I understand why the jumping up can be such a problem |
Well, we had our first free session 
I'm sure he was ignoring me when I initially told him "I've worked with them and tried everything (and classes) for years, but they're just soooooooooo stubborn" because I imagine many owners say the same thing. Mind you, I'd like to believe they're better than most dogs and have no aggression issues (sweet as fudge)! Half way through the session, he totally saw my problem and had to use many different tactics to achieve the same goals. Mr. J thought was worried about the guy b/c he was sweating so much IN OUR COOL HOME. Said they (Yuki) was one of his most stubborn and would take more help.  Just makes me feel good when someone sees my frustrations.
After hearing how he works with his dogs using mostly a growl (of Bahhh... not grrr... as he says they've proven grrr's weren't effective), I can see why this method is said to be the most popular in the world (started in Australia). Though he couldn't achieve much from our dogs while here as he did instantly with friends who had labs and such, we've already seen an overnight change as he promised an immediate one ...followed by a long-term one. The dogs didn't step foot towards the door this morning when Mr. J was leaving (they had these little hacky sack things with chains inside thrown on the floor all last night any time they passed their border which helped them know where that line was they couldn't cross), and this morning they stayed out of the kitchen ...well, for the most part. They need practice. No success on heeling, and he wants to teach us more in detail (just not the free session), but mr.j and I really thought he was being too hard on himself and our dogs just ain't no instant fixes 
I'm very pleased!!!! He left probably gasping for air since there was no clean air in our house with Mequpak having diarrhea. He says they're at most dog shows all over the U.S., so I'm sure if anyone was interested, they could find out more that way. |
| I have use bark busters here in florida. i really like the owner/trainer but their training did not work as well as the training at our local dog training club - which is a lot less expensive. the baaah does not work as well as a treat for reward - for us.
now i only use the training club and treats. both puppies respond well. |
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I definitely don't think it'll work for every dog. Ours specifically doesn't believe in training with treats, which is what we've always been taught at other places, because you don't always have one on you. They've already had to use their alternative method a few times to get OUR dogs to do things since most respond to the first way. Still going good though! Our boys are very stubborn but it's a lot better than the lack of boundaries we were experiencing. This is week 2, so hopefully they get it down completely in the next couple. We're definitely being tested, but trying to stay consistent!!! |
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