Swollen spots on ears
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| Sounds like an ear infection, they get a build up or thickening on the skin on the inside of the flap of the ear, an otis, looks scalely and comes up in like a swollen little lumps there. Is the skin on the inside of the ear looking a bit red and angry looking or still a nice pink look to it?
The other thing they can get is a Hematoma (hope I spelt that right) that is where the lump is full of blood, any blood there in the lump?. If so that has to be drained by a vet otherwise it keeps filling up and getting bigger, they drain it and stich it together so it does not fill up again. Either way, better to take Denver to the vets and have it looked at, the other is has he had his ears plucked recently? That sometime cause a discomfort there and make the area look swollen and sore? |
| I was thinking hemotoma too Lisa... would that affect the upper part of the ear though?
Has he been shaking his head or scratching his ears more lately? With this problem what happens is that blood vessels rupture from the shaking/scratching and the area fills with blood... they can be very painful. You can visit the following like to see if it might be what's causing Denver's discomfort. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... cleid=1591 |
I'm not sure Jaci, I suppose it would depend on where a dog is continually rubbing and irritating the ear flap. I think it could cause a Hemotoma to be any place on the ear flap where there is blood vessels. Can't see why not. 
thanks for the link too, good article to read.  |
| Yes, get him to the vet tomorrow or the next day. Hematomas are a bi**h to deal with, best caught early. Ear infections should also be caught early least they become well established and near impossible to eliminate. Poor baby, hope it's not serious. |
| Sounds like hematoma's to me. We had it with Winston. It was caused by him heavy duty scratching at his ears - ear infection. |
| No itching or scratching at all. No small bumps or rash, they are the size of a little larger than a half dollar coin. Soft, not red with no othe skin discoloration. No noticable smell or discharge in the ears. You wouldn't notice they were there if you didn't feel them but he certainly doesn't want his ears messed with. Ear hemotoma seems to describe the appearance, however, I haven't seen him display the symptoms associated with the description. |
| Hope the vet fixes him up real quick...
ouchy ears are no fun. |
| Results from Vet. Hemotoma, both ears caused from shaking his head hard or scratching too hard. I just never have seen him do this. Vet said I caught them early as they can result in the swelling of the whole inside of the ear. Will have surgery next Wednesday, they said draining them just doesn't really work as most fill back up quickly. They will drain and then suture the inside and outside to seal the ruptures back together. They will shave his ears bald and he will have an Elizabethan collar for 3 weeks. Guess he will have quite a unique look for the next few months while we wait for the hair to grow back. Thanks to everyone for their input. You were right on as usual. |
| Ah - give Denver plenty of good treats during the next while from us. You must have spotted them really fast!!! |
| Best wishes for Denver, the hair will grow back quick. Give that gorgeous boy a huge cuddle from us and keep us posted on how all goes. |
| Good catch! Great job.
See if there is an alternative to the e-collar like the bitenot collar. Check out this page for some photos: Shorts and Bitenot collar I don't know if it is appropriate following ear surgury, but if it is it might save your walls, legs, woodwork, sanity... |
Hope he heals up quickly  |
| Good to hear you caught things early!
Give Denver a big hug, and get better soon!  |
| Poor kid . Sounds like extra treats and belly rub time |
| Thanks for all the wishes, I will keep you posted......And, on a side note, today is Denver's Birthday! HAPPY BIRTHDAY DENVER! |
| Happy birthday Denver, you handsome sheepie-boy.
Since the ears are off limits for a while, you might ask for either a good fanny scratch or belly rub
Enjoy your special day! |
Ron wrote: Good catch! Great job.
See if there is an alternative to the e-collar like the bitenot collar. Check out this page for some photos: Shorts and Bitenot collar I don't know if it is appropriate following ear surgury, but if it is it might save your walls, legs, woodwork, sanity... Great idea following any sort of surgery in the rear of the dog, but for ear surgery, I think the bitenot collar wouldn't stop the dog from scratching its ears with its back legs, or rubbing its ears along the couch or whatever. I think the only way to stop that is with the dreaded elizabethan collar. I had a laugh at the shorts because we did the same thing with Merlin when he was a pup and was starting to mark all over the house lol |
| 3 weeks with an E-collar the size of a lampshade has tested my patience, however, Denver did fine with the surgery, but... Just had stitches removed on Wednesday and Friday the swelling has started again. Took him back to the vet and they said apparently the surgery did not work. Put him on steroids and antibiotics to see if that would help. It doesn't seem to be helping. They said they never know how a dog will react and, will probably need surgery again. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Am I wrong to assume this surgery should have worked? I guess I do not know enough about this condition, but I surely hate to have him put under anesthesia again, not to mention another $500 and 3 more weeks of the "lampshade". Of course, I will do whatever needs to be done for the poor guy. His ears are so tender and I feel so bad for him. |
Poor Denver  I'm so sorry to hear the surgery did not fix Denver's problem. Has he been shaking his head or scratching again after the sutures were removed... maybe causing the problem to recur? Did the vet determine the cause of the original shaking/scratching... maybe allergies?
Here's a link from Marvistavet that has some info on this condition and what you've already had done... http://www.marvistavet.com/html/aural_hematoma.html But they also talk about using a type of cannula used in cattle that might also used in dogs... it depends on whether the dog would tolerate it... it would again require surgery.
cannula- a small flexible tube inserted into a body cavity for draining off fluid or introducing medication They also mention that hematomas do reabsorb over time IF left alone however scaring can occur causing "cauliflower ear" and will be uncomfortable while the reabsorption takes place. The following link talks about laser surgery for this condition... I know, surgery is not an option you want to pursue again since the previous one appears to have failed. I don't know if it would have any better outcome or not. http://www.jaaha.org/cgi/content/abstract/38/4/385 Sorry to repeat things that may already have been discussed/considered. I'm no vet but these are things I'd ask about. |
| Sorry ot hear it didn't work
Did they check for bacteria? Does he have a fever? Did they check his blood cell count? |
| Firstly "Happy Birthday Denver" sheepie hugs for your special day.
So sorry to hear the surgery did not go too well, we will be thinking of Denver and keeping fingers crossed that all goes well for him. HUGS  |
| Oooh - I was hoping he would be well again. Sounds pretty painful. Hope he heals quickly. |
| Denver update. Got the sutures out from his ear surgery last Wednesday the 23rd. Took him to the groomer on that Friday and noticed they were filling back up again. Had vet look at him on Friday night and they put him on steroids and antibiotics. Said to wait 2 weeks. By this past Wednesday, 1 week after suture removal, they were so bad it looked like they would blow apart. I was afraid they would burst and I would not know how to treat him medically. Contacted another vet in a nearby city on Wednesday evening. They kept him there and did another surgery Thursday morning. Hopefully, this will work this time. I hate putting him under anesthesia so often. Interesting though, the 2 vets had 2 completely different post surgery procedures. The first had him bandaged tightly, ears up on top of his head, with no movement of the ears for 3 weeks. The second had only small ear bandages that were removed the next day. He prefers they hang naturally and allow fresh air to get to them. I don't know if one procedure is better than another, just different. Now we are looking at another 3 weeks of the dreaded e-collar. I'm sure Denver dislikes it as much as we do. It's really hard on the legs when we wear shorts. I really feel bad for him, he just isn't having any fun. |
| I'm so sorry Denver had to have another surgery.
Hopefully this will be the last and he'll heal up nicely. Best Wishes, |
| Awww poor denver, keeping fingers crossed this will fix the problem.
Personally I have not heard of the first procedure at all and doing that for a Hematoma, the 2nd yes, so hopefully that is the last of it and he is on his way to being NO MORE E COLLAR and running around happy and having fun again.
Hugs to you both. |
| Poor Denver. Let's hope this time he does well.
We will be thinking good thoughts for a quick recovery. |
| Well......here's the next saga. 2nd surgery, Denver had his sutures removed this past Thursday and......one ear looks good so far, the other has filled back up again in just 3 days. 2 different veterinarians, 2 different surgery procedures. He has not abnormally shaken or scratched and has no ear infections, even though I have been flushing his ears and putting in an antibiotic just for prevention. I am at a loss on what to do. I hate the thought of putting him under anesthesia for a 3rd time in less than 3 months. We have an appointment with the vet tomorrow to be looked at again. Does anyone out there have any input, advice, suggestions or general thoughts before we return to the vet???? I am open to any ideas at this point. I feel so bad for him. |
| I'm sorry to hear that he is not healing. You may want to contact the OES Health section from the Old English Sheepdog Club of America. http://www.oeshealth.org/ Maybe they could offer some advice. |
| I came across an article when searching "recurrent hematomas" that talks about putting a drainage tube in the ear along with giving antibiotics. I have no idea what the pros/cons are for this approach but the article has some interesting info you might like to go over...
It mentions that new evidence suggests (this was written in 2006) that aural hematomas may not always be related to scratching and head shaking... http://www.yourpetsbestfriend.com/your_ ... atoma.html I'm so sorry that Denver is still having problems. I hope his ears will be better soon. |
| I don't have any tips, but I hope you get this figured out. Poor Denver, he has to be feeling bad.
This happened to my friend's cat - and the vet said it originated from ear mites. |
| I've been wondering how Denver is doing. I hope his ears have healed and he's again feeling well. Could you maybe post just a quick note on how your handsome boy is doing? |
6Girls wrote: I was thinking hemotoma too Lisa... would that affect the upper part of the ear though?
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... cleid=1591 Yes it will, Dudley my prior sheepie had one on the top of ear (almost right up where the ear joins the head) . |
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