Nipping/Biting
Anyway, Milton (as most puppies do) has developed (yes, in 3 days) a fairly decent biting issue. He'll grab pant legs and even an entire arm, leg, or toe if he get's a chance. He'll even growl a little bit at times. When he acts like that my girlfriend and I just leave him alone in his "area". I read a few times on here that's a good way to curb the problem. The question I have is this though...does that method work as well if the dog doesn't seem to care that you leave him alone? If we leave Milton alone after one of his biting episodes he just turns around and goes and sleeps in the corner or in his crate. It seems like he doesn't care. Is that normal? I would expect him to throw a fit until we came back to him. Again, sorry for the billion questions...just curious. |
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Hey ask away...that is what the forum is for 
As far as the nipping is concerned, what we do it say OUCH in a high pitched voice, like another pup would do and that stops the pup, they are usually surprised to hear that noise from you. You can expect the nipping to last for a few months. I also tell Scarlet no and give her something she is allowed to chew. Distraction works wonders at this age 
Putting Milton in his crate for a time out in my opinion is not a good idea. You want his crate to be a good place for him, not a punishment. |
| Sorry, I didn't explain that very well.
We don't put him in his crate...we just walk away and ignore him for 3 or 4 minutes. We've been yelling "NO" but OUCH may be a better term. In any event, when we yelp it seems to encourage him more. He get's going pretty good sometimes. He'll grab the leash or a pant leg and as I pry him off he thinks I'm playing more and he'll growl and hold on for dear life. Pretty strong little guy!  |
| He's a baby, and a baby herding dog at that. It's normal, and I've never known one who didn't nip at least a little.
Bree has begun the nipping thing, we say ouch and then ignore her for a few seconds. The very instant she is doing anything that is not nipping, we pet and praise her. It doesn't take them long to figure it out, but that doesn't mean it will stop right away either |
| Oh, I understand too well about the nipping...I've been having this problem with my pup and he is now five months old and the nips hurt! I find now that when he is particularly annoying, a good run in the yard or game of feth works wonders...As far as the leash, and your pants, I use the ommand"leave it" and when ( and if ) he does, I give him lots of praise...BUT I find like you, if I use a high pitch voie with my "ouch" it seems to get him more exited so I now lower my voice a bit
Not knowing how old the pup is, onsider some obediene classes too...it will teach you how to handle things and how you may be unintentionally training your pup to do exatly what you don't want them to do AND it will teach him basi manners and tire him out some! Good luck,,,know we are all in this together!!! |
Chauncey was known as the furry alligator. Our hands and arms looked like hamburger for a few months. You gotta love the herding breeds  |
| Welcome to puppyhood! |
| My bathrobe ended up with several holes because, when he was little, Mojo thought it made a great tug of war toy.
Sounds like you are doing the right thing. Just stop immediately and walk away. If he is grabbing your pants, just freeze (if your moving, to him you are playing). You don't have to say a thing. Then come back a minute later and try again. Repetition and consistency are the best. Here is an exercise our trainer had us do. Place a tiny treat in your hand, close it tight and hold it out for Milton. At first he is probably going to be all over it. Bouncing around and trying to get it. Don't say anything to him. Just wait. The second he figures out he can't get it and calms down or sit quietly, give it to him. Repeat several times a session and try to do several sessions a day. It really helps them learn that good things come when you are calm. |
Choose one pair of pants that aren't your favorites when you take him out and wear them every time. You'll thank me for that advice later. I lost a favorite pair so if I can save just one pair...  |
| I agree with the pants thing. I have a whole set of clothes for Breena when we play. Breena is also an arm biter. In fact she grabbed Jason's (fiance)arm the other night and before he could yelp and ignore her she tried to take it on the floor to her pillow. He just looked and her and said "Hey that's attached." |
| thanks for the tip, Dutch and I will be working on this one
A. Yager wrote: Here is an exercise our trainer had us do. Place a tiny treat in your hand, close it tight and hold it out for Milton. At first he is probably going to be all over it. Bouncing around and trying to get it. Don't say anything to him. Just wait. The second he figures out he can't get it and calms down or sit quietly, give it to him. Repeat several times a session and try to do several sessions a day. It really helps them learn that good things come when you are calm. |
| They do nip and for a while. Is he teething yet? Whenever Obe would start the nipping I would yelp and give him one of is chew toys. I also gave him an old sweatshirt for his kennel? He used it like a bed. Obe still nips when we are playing, but he is herding. If he gets to rough i just stop the playing and he gets the picture. He is an OES...I have to remmeber that as well |
| Juno is 4 months and I correct, no luck, I say "ouch", no luck, I bark, no luck, when I am in the kitchen, he jumps up at my back, he almost put his paw on the burner the other night, I cannot seem to find the right deterrent. I leave him outside, he barks, I bring him inside he barks, I try to eat, he runs and leaps on the couch next to me. He will wake us up on the middle of the night and bark until we let him up onto the bed. I don't remember the others being this tougth to train. Can you refresh my memory. |
Hang in there it will get better...in Juno's time. For Chauncey all of a sudden the light came on. We tried all of these things and with him it seemed to be just a maturitity issue.  |
| "We've been yelling "NO" but OUCH may be a better term. In any event, when we yelp it seems to encourage him more. "
Wilbur was THE SAME, nothing is wrong with him. Our trainer told us that when YOU yelp when he bites you will just encourage him. This teaches him to learn what your threshold is and he will then always bite you that hard. No wonder is gets him excited! They grow out of it-but 7 months later. Wilbur still nips. Poor sheep man. |
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