Blood disorders
They will be doing more testing and for now I am waiting to decide what to do. I will not be driving to florida this weekend to pisk him up, but I haven't decided not to take him yet. I was planning on showing him as well (as a novice). Any advice? |
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| What blood disorder do they suspect? I would have assumed the pregnancy and delivery would have been problematic if the mother of the puppies had a blood disorder. Usually bleeding disorders cause fetal death and/or maternal death at delivery. If they didn't identify this serious issue before they bred this dog - what else have they missed???
I'm an alarmist - but this really sets up a red flag to me! Unless I'm way off base - the microchip should not cause bleeding - it is inserted right under the skin. I can't imagine a dog bleeding to death from this procedure - even if they did have a blood disorder. I'm not suggesting that you not still get Morgan - but I would do a lot more investigating what is going on first. Is there something else doing on with the health of these puppies - and this is an excuse to postpone you picking him up???? I'm so sorry you're dealing with this! I'll keep Morgan and his littermates in my prayers! Kristen |
| It could be injection site sarcoma, but that usually takes a little longer to develop. At first I was thinking, well, at least the breeder is making you aware of the problem, which is a good sign. On the other hand, what if these puppies are sick and dropping off like flies and the breeder just doesn't want to admit that to you?
I hope that's not the case.... do you know which vet he/she uses? Is there a way you could contact the vet and get more details? Good luck! |
| I think that would be a good idea - see if you can speak directly to the Vet. Tell them that you would like to discuss what this "blood disorder" may mean for the future health of your puppy.
How old are these puppies? |
| They are doing more clotting tests but apparently there are a range of disorders from two types of hemophylia to Von Willdebrandts. My husband is of the opinion that I should still take Morgan (7.5 weeks) but I am really torn. I am at the moment planning on waiting and seeing what the other blood tests show (the mother has tested negative so far). And I don't quite know what an injection site sarcoma is but it has been well over a week since he was "chipped". The vet in FLorida says she believes the swelling will go down and it won't be a problem. I think the breeder is scared after what she went thoough with the the other puppy that died.
This is really a mess! |
| You need to know more before you can make an informed decision. IMHO. What would a blood disorder like this mean for you and your puppy? How will this impact on how he can live his life? |
| I am at work so haven't been able to call the vet in florida but I just received an email from another puppy buyer who has spoken to the vet's assistant. According to her they are "very" concerned about Morgan in particular. Less so about the other pups. According to my vet it can be dealt with if precautions are taken - like previous warning if he is neutered etc. However I live 40 minutes from the vet's office in good weather. I am also in a snow belt so winter driving can be treacherous and sometimes impossible. The possibility that a dog could get cut unforeseeably is very real for anyone of us - if he can't clot properly the implications are very scary. And I had planned on training him for agility. Can you tell I am thinking as I write this? Has anyone else run across any bleeding problems with their sheepies? |
| Kerry,
There's alot of good information available in the Bearded Collie Health Network (Beacon For Health) organization - although it is geared primarily towards Bearded Collies - it's very informative for everyone! http://www.beaconforhealth.org/vwd.htm (This is specifically about the VonWildebrants disease - but there's many other articles. Maybe something there will help you with at least understanding what you will be dealing with. Kristen |
| Kerry,
How's everything going???? I'm thinking of Morgan and hope that all is well. Please keep us posted. Thanks Kristen |
| It appears Morgan was not the puppy for me. He is suspected of being a hemopiliac, although definitive bloodwork isn't in. The mother, who tests negative is definitly a carrier as incidents with Morgans littermates and previous male puppies are pieced together. I feel awful and am trying to deal with 1) getting a refund from the breeder and 2) finding another puppy. I am researching the breeeders and bloodlines better this time around (well at least I am attempting to.) |
| Sorry Kerry! I know it must be tough for you and your family. I'm glad that you at least found out now - before you took him home only to have something tragic happen.
Morgan's breeder at least had the decency to inform you of this problem - many would not have. I hope they continue to afford you that same decency in refunding you promptly. Best of luck in your search for another breeder. I'll keep my fingers crossed that all goes well. My girls send big virtual sheepie kisses to you! Hugs! Kristen |
| I'm so sorry things didn't work out. That's too bad about the pups, i wonder what will become of them? I hope the breeder keeps them or finds loving homes nearby where he/she can keep a eye on them.
Good luck finding a pup! Where are you located? You mentioned snow belt? |
| The breeder has been wonderful through all of this. I can't blame her for the situation and she has been upfront and caring through it all. SHe is planning on keeping Morgan for herself and the other pups who people decided not to take, but were not as effected have all been placed. I can't at this time bring myself to go with her for another pup (she is going to keep me updated on Morgan though).
I did get a referral from the OES club who turned out to be someone I knew about 10 years ago and is only like 6 miles from my house. Hopefully I'll have a new pup by Christmas! I am not looking forward to housebreaking in a north east winter but I'll figure it out! I plan on using the time until the new pup comes home taking my husbands Irish setter to obedience classes and maybe introduce him to agility. I think he would be very good at it - once he learns some more predicatable responses to recall. Thanks you to everyone for their concern. |
| Housebreaking in winter sometimes goes faster, because no one wants to stand outside for long in nasty weather, so puppies usually learn to pee on command faster...lol |
| Also getting the setter out among other dogs will make it more likely to accept a newbie into the family. |
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