No To Anonymous Guest Postings?
If somebody wants to post to this forum is it not an absolute minimum courtesy that they should register and in some way identify themselves before posting? I certainly think so! Registering with forum.oes.org does not require that any prospective member release personal or particularly private information. What registering does however do is allow forum members to identify a poster and correleate multiple posts from a user to get a "sence" of "what any particular member is about". I belong to numerous lists and "real world" groups, almost all of which require a membership with attendant identification for participation and realization of the benefits of the group. Those that don't require membership generally fail quickly or tend to be ignored. I herein formally request that forum.oes.org recind the guest posting option and require that anyone wishing to post on this forum register before posting. Registering is not an onerous task and any potential poster's refusal to register, I think, indicates a potential level of subterfuge that should not be allowed here. Probably 85% or more of our "guest posters" pose no problem, but the remaining 15% or so could cause enormous discourse on this forum. So, Ron and the general membership, what's your take on this? Thanks and Cheers Carl |
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| Carl, I too have noticed the increase lately in "guest posts" and wondered what it was all about since they often seem to be someone familiar with the forum. I tend to agree with your thoughts although I do think occassionally the "guest" is just someone who forgot to sign in, but when that happens to me I ususally put my name at the end of the post.
Other forums I am on require registration to post so it is not an unusual request. |
| I agree with you Carl. I've always thought that only members should be allowed to post. If non-members can post, what's the benefit of joining???
Occasionally a member will forget to sign in, but posts under "guest." That's fine because the member usually writes "I forgot to sign in!" |
| I also agree and am glad you suggested it, Carl.
Perhaps there should be a poll in the members section? |
| oes.org was created, in part, as a reaction to the restrictive registration requirements of OES-L.
Policy from the beginning has been to allow for anonymous posting so that anyone, including regular members, would feel free and not be embarrassed to post any and all questions. The same is true for responses. Going by your percentages, I don't currently see a reason to penalize the 85% of guests and 100% of registered members for the postings of 15% of the guests, by taking away the ability to make posts anonymously. The moderators have a tough job in determining the value of a post, weighing the appropriateness and the fairness without interjecting their own philosophies (being objective) and weighing the impact on the other members, and taking into account the registration status of the poster, and I think they've done a really great job! |
| I agree with you, Ron. I really like that we can help people who need help-- even if they haven't taken the time to register. I think it's great if they do, but I don't think it should be a requirement to share opinions. I would lean more towards locking a certain topic from further posting if it continued to bring in "agitators." Many people that have joined have started as guests and perhaps would not have hung around if they were obligated to register first. With so much junk on the internet, many people are leery of signing up for yet another thing, no matter what it is. |
| While I almost always post as my name a few times I have not as I wanted to share a more personal experience without people knowing it was me. I like talking about dogs but don't like sharing personal info. with general public. So while some people do abuse the guest log I don't feel the majority do. |
And I think you have a good idea there ButtersStotch about locking out guests from certain topics if it brings in agitators.  |
| I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was irked. I don't mind "guests."
I just think many of the BOARD MEMBERS need to grow a backbone when they want to insult someone or be polite but in a frank way. If you can't say it under your own name then you shouldn't say it at all. I LIKE the fact the people guilty of this get to know I feel this way and calling them spineless. They get to secretly hate me, but I don't give a crap. You are what you are ...and I'm just making sure you're aware of it. I feel intentional posts to hurt others should not be tolerated and those BOARD MEMBERS disguising as guests should get warnings from moderators (assuming ron can see their IP address). That way the problem doesn't get worse and they don't feel they can get away with being rude more and more and more. It's annoying as hell to see a guest reply and you know it's just so they can post something negative about another person. |
Joahaeyo wrote: I feel intentional posts to hurt others should not be tolerated and those BOARD MEMBERS disguising as guests should get warnings from moderators (assuming ron can see their IP address). That way the problem doesn't get worse and they don't feel they can get away with being rude more and more and more.
Do we know that this has occurred? I guess even if it has... who cares? If something is too personal or too obscene, it can always be deleted. I post as a guest on other message boards because I do not have time to register. Especially if it's an emergency we don't want to deter people from asking us for help. |
| I guess I just don't view it that way. If someone has something they are really concerned about (dog has a medical problem), they can register and be a part of our group/forum.
If it requires immediate advice then they need to call a vet. Hang up, and then call another local vet if they want more advice. People who come here when their dog is on fire or whatever are ....not bright. The fire example is just an example but not something too far-fetched considering some of the threads I've read recently. It's one of those "what the hell are you thinking?!" Do you go on an advice board when you're in the middle of having a heart attack before you call a doctor/911? There have been several times that I desperately wanted to reply or ask something on a forum. Well... seriously... it takes 2 min. to register and validate your email address. I understand why Ron has chosen to keep it. I'm just sharing why I hate it. |
I hear what you are saying Mrs. J and I too have felt there were times when someone intentionally posted as a "guest" and I guess that bothers me as well. True guests are one thing but when a member posts as a guest to avoid putting their name to their words it does irk me. Maybe because I'm mouthy enough to "own" my own words 
So yes, Ron is correct it would be a shame to drive true "guests" away by requiring registration so it's a case of having to accept the good with the not so good. |
| A few retorts to replies received so far.
Lil Walty wote: Quote: I post as a guest on other message boards because I do not have time to register. Especially if it's an emergency we don't want to deter people from asking us for help. If there is an emergency situation (health, behaviour etc) and there is no time to register (which really doesn't take very long) the forum is not the resource to which you should be turning. Health emergencies require immediate veterinary care and behavioural emergencies should be refered to your breeder. While there is usually someone "on the forum" it may be quite some time (hours) before someone with appropriate knowledge replies. Crustybirds wrote: Quote: While I almost always post as my name a few times I have not as I wanted to share a more personal experience without people knowing it was me. I like talking about dogs but don't like sharing personal info. with general public. Posts on the forum are not only available to the 2000 plus members of the forum they are available to the entire web through search engine returns and inumerable links. If a member wants to post something so personal they don't want to be identified with it then, in my opinion, this is a sign that that the post probably shouldn't be submitted. Ron wrote; Quote: Going by your percentages, I don't currently see a reason to penalize the 85% of guests and 100% of registered members for the postings of 15% of the guests, by taking away the ability to make posts anonymously.
Unfortunatley it takes very few people, or even very few posts from one person to "sour" any list or organization for many members. I gave up on OES-L because relevant and helpful posts became increasingly rare and it began to feel like a "coffee club" dominated by a very small portion of it's membership. The list was further harmed by moderation and increasingly "beligerant" attitudes from at least one moderator. I didn't just leave without trying to improve the situation, I repeatedly tried to start informative threads and even offered to take ownership and moderation of the list each time it passed from one hand to another. Amongst those who have posted there seems to be more support for recinding anonymous guest postings than continuing it. However Ron this is "your" forum and you can enforce what policies you choose. A few more thoughts from my point of view anyway. Cheers Carl |
| I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this, but its been on my mind ever since we had a few horrifying "guest" dog emergencies...could we perhaps have a big obvious flashing notice that says something like :
IF YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL PROBLEM WITH YOUR DOG, AND IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, OR ON THE WEEKEND, THERE IS SUCH A THING AS 24 HOUR EMERGENCY VET CLINICS!!!! CALL ONE IMMEDIATLY!  |
Quote: Posts on the forum are not only available to the 2000 plus members of the forum they are available to the entire web through search engine returns and inumerable links. If a member wants to post something so personal they don't want to be identified with it then, in my opinion, this is a sign that that the post probably shouldn't be submitted
I disagree with that as one time I was writing about how my family dealt with two failing grandmothers and one time i posted some music that i liked. Neither of which were flaming post. Just don't like people knowing all about my likes and dislikes and personal life. |
| Goodbye.
I am going to miss the Chumley stories, hearing about Max's recovery and now the new recovering sheepie. I didn't post often and never to stir stuff up. You are all very passionate about sheepies and have a lot of good info to share. |
Anonymous wrote: Goodbye.
I am going to miss the Chumley stories, hearing about Max's recovery and now the new recovering sheepie. I didn't post often and never to stir stuff up. You are all very passionate about sheepies and have a lot of good info to share. OooKay....Ummm...I'm kinda bewildered by this, since, 1: Ron has said he does NOT plan to stop allowing guest postings 2:Even if he did, you could still read whatever you want, on the forum 3:If you are not one of the people "stirring stuff up", then this discussion wasn't directed at you 4:Since you enjoy the forum, and like to post, why NOT just go ahead and register?...If there is a real, legitimate reason, maybe THAT is something that needs to be changed? |
No one has yet mentioned any good advice or nice things posted by guests. Only the bad. 
Could there be an approval queue built in so that guest posts need to be authorised, first? Like the photos? Would put more work on the moderators. |
| Well, I guess I am missing something BIG TIME here.... Guest 1 & 2; if you are regular posters and readers what is the PROBLEM with registering? Your screen name can be as ambiguous as "guest" and in your profie gives as little or as much imformation as YOU chose. I don't get it. |
ravenmoonart wrote: Anonymous wrote: Goodbye. I am going to miss the Chumley stories, hearing about Max's recovery and now the new recovering sheepie. I didn't post often and never to stir stuff up. You are all very passionate about sheepies and have a lot of good info to share. OooKay....Ummm...I'm kinda bewildered by this, since, 1: Ron has said he does NOT plan to stop allowing guest postings 2:Even if he did, you could still read whatever you want, on the forum 3:If you are not one of the people "stirring stuff up", then this discussion wasn't directed at you 4:Since you enjoy the forum, and like to post, why NOT just go ahead and register?...If there is a real, legitimate reason, maybe THAT is something that needs to be changed? I am a bit confused...... If this is the guest that made all the comments about Chumley (They said they were a registered guest ) So why not start posting using your member name? |
Saying goodbye is ridiculous. 
(using that argument then..) If you can't spend 5 secs signing in then your life may be too busy to be posting on forums anyway. |
| I agree that this forum is not the place to be posting if there is an emergency, but unfortunately not everyone is as educated about the emergency resources out there. Don't you want people who don't know what to do to come here so we can help direct them??
Not everyone is computer savvy and not everyone understands how to register or login. I don't think we should take away this resource for people that really need help and information for their dogs. |
Anonymous wrote: Goodbye. Sorry you feel the need to leave. I am going to miss the Chumley stories, hearing about Max's recovery and now the new recovering sheepie. I didn't post often and never to stir stuff up. You are all very passionate about sheepies and have a lot of good info to share. Bye. guest 2 wrote: No one has yet mentioned any good advice or nice things posted by guests. Only the bad. Sorry you feel that way. |
| Tend to agree with Ms. J, in that I think some members post things anonymously when they know what they have to say is going to ruffle feathers. Frequently, I find myself trying to guess who the Guest of the Moment is among the myriad of OES.ORG Members. (It reminds me of the Seen and Heard on Page Six in the NY Post, where you get a description and have to guess the subject of the anecdote.) I also agree with J that if you are going to post inflammatory things you should be willing to attach your name to your commentary.
But, I still agree with Ron that the Guest Option needs to remain an option. We shouldn't close people out of our community. I am sort of conflicted about this subject. |
| I feel that the guest option should stay. Yes, there have been a few odd posts and/or replies by 'guests' recently, but there have been those scattered throughout the years, as well.
If the person, for whatever reason, feels uncomfortable registering or using their real name, that is their decision, and I don't feel (at least at this point) that it has negatively affected the makeup up this forum. I feel that most people are able to ignore or read past the inflammatory guest postings and enjoy the informative and friendly ones. That's just how I see it. And as for emergencies...I know when I started coming to this forum, I felt I was having a crisis with Barney...not medical or anything, just was frustrated and at my wit's end...so maybe not an emergency, per se, but definitely a pressing issue in my mind. And as for Carl's impression of the other forum turning into a coffee clique, I felt that this board was heading that way too for a little while, until a few months ago there was a resurgence of new blood and more people posting more often, and I think some started off as visiting guests... You can't please everyone all the time. |
barney1 wrote: And as for Carl's impression of the other forum turning into a coffee clique, I felt that this board was heading that way too for a little while, until a few months ago there was a resurgence of new blood and more people posting more often, and I think some started off as visiting guests...
You can't please everyone all the time. I guess I agree about visiting guests, it's a bit like sticking your toe in the pool to "test the water" before jumping in. I just can't get over the idea that some people have intentionally posted as a guest because they didn't want others to know that it was them posting. If you can't own it, don't say it.  |
| I just read an article talking about how rude the internet has become, because it allows anonymous people to voice their opinions without the social repercusions of a face to face confrontation. It was saying how people say things in blogs or on message boards that they would (most likely) never dream of saying in real life to someone's face. |
| I saw that too, and it is a huge problem. People often feel bullied for making comments, and then it hurts them deeply...and because it is all in a sense anonymous...the bully goes on not thinking about it, but it can destroy the person who simply asked a question.
Now about guest posting...it all depends. For instance this forum has banned 2 people for causing "trouble", and who's to know that these guests are not those two people. And I haven't seen any posts, but don't read all of them...so if most guests only come to stir up things then there should be a mandatory sign in. But many people are just browsing around, and when they see how active this forum is, and how quickly someone responds then they want to post their question here. Unfortunately...people come here because they googled something NOT OES...and post unappropiate questions...because of me, and I again deeply apologize for that. I feel only people who have something to hide, want to remain unknown....otherwise what is the big deal of becoming registered. If a regular poster checks the forum from another place, and decides to be a guest, then sign your post with the username, or the pets name so we know you. And if it is a member pretending to be anonoymous, then they need to grow up, own what you want to say, or leave the matter alone...if you can't say it to their (virtual) face, then don't say anything. |
Quote: feel only people who have something to hide, want to remain unknown....otherwise what is the big deal of becoming registered.
Actually "guest" is no different than registering if you want to remain anonymous. From there, YOU choose to or not to share details of your life and to what extent. Making "guests" register, just holds them accountable for # of times they may be hurtful or post inappropriate material. If you wanted to post how you feel about a subject w/o people knowing where you stand, you could easily create a second name. The difference is... it's easier for the administrator to get rid of you if you're registered. EITHER WAY, your IP address is locked, so there is at least 1 person who knows you're a .... if your only intent on posting as a guest is to be a ..... |
| I'm sitting on the fence for this one.
Sometimes when a guest posts I would like to respond off-list, and I can't. At least if they had to register before posting they could get private responses. On the other side, I have posted as guest before, and for different reasons that I don't care to share publicly. Because I am a registered member doesn't mean I HAVE to be public all the time. It is my choice. I would hate to feel like liberities are taken away as soon as I create a user ID. I have never posted as a guest in a negative fashion though, or to stir up trouble, even though that would be very easy to do...We learn a lot about each other in the chat room!  |
| I love being able to post as a guest. I never remember to sign in. I would have never been able to get registered again if I weren't able to post asking Ron what my login info was, and I wouldn't get the benefit of reading all of the other GUESTS advice.
what's the big deal? you don't have to like what the guest is saying just don't read it. If you don't like what I look like then don't look at me. ??? I dunno. This place has become soo serious lately? Am I the only one who has noticed. I know a lot of people probably aren't very fond of me anymore, but I still like to participate every now and again. I still love OES. Yup yup yup. Love like you've never been hurt Dance like nobody's watching 
Work like you don't need the money. THIS IS MELLOW (which i almost always put down  ) |
| I can't say I have been particularly offended by anything a guest has posted. I would like to see the option continue. I would suggest that everyone take a minute to self edit when they send opinions stated as fact. |
| I feel you answered YOUR OWN question, mellow.
One of the concerns and reasons this has been brought up, I'm not the one who started the thread so am assuming, is because more and more GUESTS are posting in an offensive nature. Why wouldn't' that be a concern to a board that has become such a family? Maybe to those who don't post much, it's not a big deal because they're not here to witness this, but I'm sure it would turn off REAL guests if they saw people were rude here. And by guests, I don't mean how they reply, but by them being new here. Signing in takes 5 seconds. If you can't remember your login name/pw then you should use one you do remember
Again, I'm just replying and participating in this thread. Ron has already stated that he likes the guest option. |
| just because members don't post often doesn't mean they aren't viewing the posts and following the threads. I didn't say I wasn;t offended or annoyed at posts, just not any by guests. |
| hehehehehe, I don't ever sign in because LONG ago I checked the option to REMAIN signed in, so I am signed in til I decide to log out. That might not work for everyone but I always post from one of two computers (home or work) and I am not concerned about remaining signed in. So there is a solution to not wanting to sign in every time (for some). |
kerry wrote: just because members don't post often doesn't mean they aren't viewing the posts and following the threads. I didn't say I wasn;t offended or annoyed at posts, just not any by guests.
my reply wasn't to you, and I said "maybe the reason" for the second part of your statement. |
| I havn't noticed any offensive nature.
where is it? I am confused??? Ron can edit anything he wants can't he? Can't you ron? I dunno? [Yes I can -Ron.]
How did I answer my own question? Which one? as far as I know everyone gets along okay. I guess if I HAD to log in I would. But then in the beginning I would have never joined the forum. I joined years ago, forgot all my info and couldn't get logged back on. The the MOD helped me with my info and I started participating again. That was cool. Just saying, I know of a forum I am on and you have to sign in just to read anything. It is kinda annoying and it took a week for me to be approved. That was just to read anything. oh well, whichever way is fine by me but I just don't see that big of a difference. Maybe whoever this guest is that you say is causing trouble is Ron trying to stir you gus up. huh?? HA HA 
[Not most of the time -Ron.]
just kidding trying to keep the convo light floating on air weeeeeeeee MELLOW |
| I do that too, remain logged in...I love that option. As another forum I visit, I have to log in each time I go there.
It really only takes a sec, and due to the website rules, you have to log in if you want to post. It doesn't bother me at all. I think this is a great family forum still, it is kept clean, and friendly for the most part. I would love to see all guests be a full part of the forum, because it is easier to trust someone when we know them a little more...and a barrier is removed. I would rather give all the help I can to a registered person, because I'd like to think they'd come back to read it. But a guest has no identity...and we can't discern one "guest" from another "guest"...so I usually don't reply. As for offensive, or stirring trouble...as mentioned in post #1...I haven't noticed either...so I have no clue on that one. Carl Lindon wrote: There have been a few recent posts where I wondered if the "guest" was, for whatever reason, deliberately trying to "stir things up". Carl |
Daisie wrote: But a guest has no identity...and we can't discern one "guest" from another "guest"...so I usually don't reply. That's an important point. I was going to make that point to the previous guest posters in this thread, but I decided brevity would be better at that point.
Apparently some people CAN discern who guest posters are by their writing style. I am not one of those people. I just can't tell, and even if I suspect I know who it is, I don't make the assumption because I could very well be wrong. While I have the ability to do so, and I do when situations require it, I don't normally look at any poster's IP address. |
| Just for the record, I have spent a whole boatload of time programming to make the forum available to anonymous posters yet keeping it mostly free of spam.
Has anyone noticed that we are one of the very few places on the web open to anonymous posting, and registration completely without email address verification and mostly without admin approval? This is a special thing, and might very well be one of the reasons that this is such a special place. Moderation here is extremely light handed, and that's a great credit to our members... and to most of our guests. The moderators frequently have to "bite their own tongues" and show tremendous restraint in both how they edit other's posts and in their own posts as "representatives" of the community. Keeping the forum open required a bit of clever programming, and many hours of continual vigilance. For instance, I created an entire system to prevent spam registrations, and several webmasters (a webmistress, too) are using it on their forums as well.
All that said, I've occasionally toyed with the idea of turning off guest posting, so I'm not married to the idea, just committed. Or I should be committed. Either way. |
Ron wrote: The moderators frequently have to "bite their own tongues" and show tremendous restraint in both how they edit other's posts and in their own posts as "representatives" of the community.
I'm being good!!! LOL    |
Ron wrote: The moderators frequently have to "bite their own tongues" and show tremendous restraint in both how they edit other's posts and in their own posts as "representatives" of the community.
Oh, not me. I seldom disagree with anything. It must just be Stacey.  |
| I'm so glad I'm NOT a moderator.... no tongue biting HERE |
Tasker's Mom wrote: I'm so glad I'm NOT a moderator.... no tongue biting HERE
I don't know, sometimes you surprise yourself. I shared this analogy with Val yesterday. Being a moderator for me is a lot like putting a backpack on a dog who is a puller when he walks. Give me a job to do and I become a more stable member of the pack. |
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Ron wrote: Just for the record, I have spent a whole boatload of time programming to make the forum available to anonymous posters yet keeping it mostly free of spam. Just to emphasize what is going on the forum right now: (IP addresses obscured to protect the guilty)Quote: Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:35 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:35 pm Posting a message 76.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:35 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:35 pm Posting a message 151.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:35 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:35 pm Posting a message 81.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 122.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 216.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 122.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 166.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 82.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 88.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 200.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 82.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 81.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 166.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 69.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:34 pm Posting a message 200.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 124.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 89.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 70.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 200.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 213.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 200.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 151.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 166.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 193.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 70.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 68.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 69.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 165.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 200.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 124.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 69.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:33 pm Posting a message 193.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm Posting a message 200.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm Posting a message 76.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm Posting a message 76.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm Posting a message 87.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm Posting a message 193.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm Posting a message 86.XXX.XXX.XXX Guest 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm 27 Mar 2007 08:32 pm Posting a message 86.XXX.XXX.XXX |
ButtersStotch wrote: Tasker's Mom wrote: I'm so glad I'm NOT a moderator.... no tongue biting HERE I don't know, sometimes you surprise yourself. I shared this analogy with Val yesterday. Being a moderator for me is a lot like putting a backpack on a dog who is a puller when he walks. Give me a job to do and I become a more stable member of the pack. LOL That's good... |
Ron wrote: Ron wrote: Just for the record, I have spent a whole boatload of time programming to make the forum available to anonymous posters yet keeping it mostly free of spam. Just to emphasize what is going on the forum right now: (IP addresses obscured to protect the guilty)[snip] So what does that MEAN Ron? |
Tasker's Mom wrote: So what does that MEAN Ron? It means that a whole boat load of spam messages that were trying to be posted onto the forum were filtered out by the software. Each one of those lines would have been a post about some enhancement mediacation or some adult site. |
Tasker's Mom wrote: So what does that MEAN Ron?
It means that we have the best webmaster EVER!!! Thanks Ron, for making this a great forum and keeping us safe from enhancement ads and dating service posts. You're the best! As for the guest thing... I firmly believe that the energy that you put out into the universe comes back to you. Some people put their hearts and souls into this community and it seems that they receive the same back in turn. I'm not the most active poster, but I've gotten lots of positive energy back in the form of great advice (at a time when it was sorely needed), beautiful pictures, hysterical stories and some good friends . For that, I'm grateful. And there will be people who don't want to share personal information, and feel that browsing is enough of a return on their investment. It's nice that each of us can decide how we want to participate. |
Bailey's Mom wrote: It means that we have the best webmaster EVER!!! Very nice. Thank you. I don't think I'm the best at all, This is a great community of great people and a great moderation team.Bailey's Mom wrote: I firmly believe that the energy that you put out into the universe comes back to you. Some people put their hearts and souls into this community and it seems that they receive the same back in turn. I'm not the most active poster, but I've gotten lots of positive energy back in the form of great advice (at a time when it was sorely needed), beautiful pictures, hysterical stories and some good friends Beautifully said. . For that, I'm grateful. And there will be people who don't want to share personal information, and feel that browsing is enough of a return on their investment. It's nice that each of us can decide how we want to participate.Ron wrote: enhancement mediacation I need to use my spell checker more often. |
| AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I see!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, as I'v said before I'm COMPUTER STUPID!!!! Enhancement medication..........now is that something that makes you PRETTIER
Thanks for all your hard work Ron , I TOO LOVE THIS PLACE. It is an integrel part of my day, I cannot imagine not having OES.org to drop in on at every spare moment. |
| As a relatively newer member I like the guest option. I visited this site several times before I got Miley and did not register until I had an OES. This is a wonderful learning environment. I think have the guest option allows people to post questions about the breed prior to buying an OES. If taken away so questions might go unanswered.
This is the only forum I have joined as you can tell by lack of avtar - I am not computer savvy. Yes - Ron did tell me how - I just suck at double / triple clicking. I love the advice I learn from the members here. I have learned so much. I am better able to weed out groomer because of this site. I have learned about what to feed my girl. I have laughed over funny stories and cried at reading posts about pets going to Rainbow Bridge. In short this site has helped me be a better companion to my 4 legged friend. So I would not change a thing. But I do say THANKS to all the members that participate - Miley thanks you too. |
| I prefer the guest status remain. I've referred many people to the site and one of the selling points is they do not need to register. In time, after they feel comfortable with the people here, they join.
As for one who has posted under guest, it was due to answering directly from my email, not coming into the oes.org site. Those times I've tried to remember to sign my name at the end. Yes, we will get rude people coming in under "guest." Perhaps one person could respond gently correcting the action and the rest of us just hold our tongues, er, fingers and not fan the flames. All in all, I think for as open as this forum is, it is remarkable free of flaming or other bad behavior. susan |
| All right, I'm going to admit it right now. I am the guest who always stirs up trouble. Any troublemaking posts on here it is me!!!! So now that you all know that can we get back to our regular programming now please? |
VerveUp wrote: All right, I'm going to admit it right now. I am the guest who always stirs up trouble. Any troublemaking posts on here it is me!!!! So now that you all know that can we get back to our regular programming now please?
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