microchip issues
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| I'm just beginning to look into this myself, neither of my girls are chipped, I was too worried about the risk of it migrating through the body. I've heard of problems with it, but never heard of one dying from it.
Both my girls are tattooed, that's enough for me. |
| I have never heard of a problem with microchipping!!! It's a simple procedure that often doesn't even involve anethesia or anything! I would assume there was much more involved in the pups death than just microchipping - either he died from something else (reaction to medication given/anesthesia) and/or the person doing the microchipping did something wrong! I've seen microchipping done at Pet Fairs - it's less invasive than bloodwork!
JMHO! Kristen |
BritPresSyd wrote: II would assume there was much more involved in the pups death than just microchipping - either he died from something else (reaction to medication given/anesthesia) and/or the person doing the microchipping did something wrong! I've seen microchipping done at Pet Fairs - it's less invasive than bloodwork!
JMHO! Kristen Well my assumption is something was done incorrectly. Has anyone else heard of that happening? |
| Truman was micro chipped as a puppy. No problems whatsoever. It's good to know that if he somehow got lost he could be tracked back to us. It's pretty inexpensive and added insurance against loss/theft! |
| For those of you who think the AKC should be forcing you to chip your dog, please be aware of the huge number of things we MUST do in the name of safety. I come from the land of the free and the home of the brave. I fluffy darts, so be it. To be told that you MUST chip fluffy you better be staring at a bigger picture here. CHOICE?????????? Where are we allowed to choose. We are up tp 4 hours in an airport to travel. If you think this stuff is for pur protection, you are nuts. I can protect myself, thank you. This chip has larger meaning for our citizens and pets. You are losing your ability to choose for yourself. Did anyone gatch that, plus, yes your dog could have ill effects, wouldn't you??? |
| OH MY GOD, DON'T EVEN THINK OF INJECTING THESE THINGS INTO YOUR FAVORITE ANIMAL. JUST BECAUSE SOME LADY FROM KANSAS IS TELLING YOU THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HER DOG SO IT'S OK, DON'T BELIEVE IT. NOT ALL ANIMALS SHOW SIGNS OF MALFUNCTION BUT I'M TELLING YOU THAT THIS IS A BAD IDEA |
| Bingley has this, and it is VERY rare that they migrate. I think it is fantastic, he has had no ill effects (and was microchipped at 8 wks) and it has greatly eased my mind knowing that should the worst ever happen and he get lost someone could immediately trace him back to us. |
WALTER wrote: OH MY GOD, DON'T EVEN THINK OF INJECTING THESE THINGS INTO YOUR FAVORITE ANIMAL. JUST BECAUSE SOME LADY FROM KANSAS IS TELLING YOU THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HER DOG SO IT'S OK, DON'T BELIEVE IT. NOT ALL ANIMALS SHOW SIGNS OF MALFUNCTION BUT I'M TELLING YOU THAT THIS IS A BAD IDEA
So since you're not from Kansas we should believe you? |
| Both of the guest posts were from the same person, from the same IP address. Just someone with an agenda. |
Mop lover wrote: Bingley has this, and it is VERY rare that they migrate. I think it is fantastic, he has had no ill effects (and was microchipped at 8 wks) and it has greatly eased my mind knowing that should the worst ever happen and he get lost someone could immediately trace him back to us. same here boo had hers at 8wks and never suffered any effects from it |
| In Australia it is LAW from next year, all cats/dogs to be chipped. Reduces the incident of abandoned animals, makes a person think twice about purchasing a pup or kitten to see it dumped when the cute baby look has gone.
They are then permantly traceable back to an owner. It reduces the strays and reduces abandonment, it helps breeders too, to keep trace of an animal as well, we have a code of ethics here that a breeder is fully responsible for any animal produced for their lifetime. So if a pup is housed and years later, something happens, through a chip it can be traced back to the breeder and then it gives some comfort to being able to take the dog back or being involved in re-housing it. My dogs are chipped, they do not wear collars so if for some reason they ever get out, then I know they will be traced back to me. SECURITY and COMFORT in knowing my dogs have a permanent identification to get them back home. I had my first sheepie girl tattooed and it could not be seen in the ear after 12 months, so that was a waste of time. I have no problems with Chipping, the technology and insertion is more advanced now and when mine were done, they did not even flinch when it was injected into them. I have never heared of anyone loosing a dog through chipping, I have heard of them moving, but I suppose it goes back to the experience of the individual inserting the chip. I think they are a wonderful thing to curb problems with abandonment and makes people more responsible, as they can be permantly traced, with caring for there animals. AND NO IT IS NOT AN INVASION OF A PERSONS RIGHTS OR CHOICE, it is a safeguard for animals. |
| What Lisa said.....Ditto... |
| Mine are chipped, Elliot will be also at his next appointment. |
| We had our 2 GSD's Hitchiker and Shadow chipped and Duchess was done before we brought her home |
| Both of my cats are microchipped and the vet confirms their number each time they visit. I think they are a great device and my future pup will definitely be chipped as well. |
| All of my pets are chipped.
It's just not possible for a dog to die from being chipped!!! We do anywhere from 1 to 10 each day. I've also never heard of a chip migrating?? We have reunited 3 dogs with their owners in the past 6 mths because of it. We had an owner see his dog that had been stolen at the dog park 2 mths after he was taken. He called the police, and they approached the guy with the dog. A trip the the vet office and his chip number helped the dog get back to his rightful owner. |
| Hello,
St.Clair Kennels is a licensed kennel in the state of Michigan and is currently investigating a seizure problem that seems to be related to Microchips.Here are the facts,to date. 3 pup have had seizures of 16 total.This is from the same parents,2 different breedings. Both parents have clear bloodwork and no seizures.13 pups are not microchiped including one we kept with no seizures. 3 pups are microchiped and have had seizures,2 females,1 male.The pups have been tested for toxins,allergies and all bloodwork is clear. A database has been started at Home Again with case #80037840. If after full testing and the process of elimination your dog has seizures contact them and refer to this case number. At this point nothing is certain but it surely points to a microchip or improper procedure being done. St.Clair Kennels |
All of my guys got theirs when young, tho 8 weeks seems very very young, not enough "meat" for proper placement. I assume improperly placed it could end up in a vein or artery........I flunked the injection job when doing rescue...I could never quite get the hang of it especially after seeing the size of the needle! 
My complaint is the brand my guys have is no longer the "recognized" brand by most shelters. It's required here, but our vet understands we are outlaws when it comes to these things. I'm not re-chipping my dogs. |
| My vet has told me the chip can migrate. It hasn't happened to my dogs, but I do remember him mentioning that it is possible. He didn't mention any adverse effects. |
| All of my animals are chipped. I am glad to know they can always find us as owners. |
| Hi St clair Kennels, just wondering if in this situation if at the same time as having the microchips inserted were they also vaccinated?
Did they do any tests to see if the seizures with the pups was due to maybe a vaccination reaction rather then the microchipping? My litter was done at 7 1/2 weeks, LAW here now in Australia, all went well and chips are read easily and have not migrated. Two pups going overseas they have to be indentified with microchips or they are not allowed to leave here or enter there new country. I still wonder if maybe it was more of a Vaccine related issue then the insertion of a microchip? I still say microchipping an animal gives them a security all their lives and lessens the risk of the animal being abandoned or dumped as it is a life time guarantee of responsible pet ownership that can be traced  |
| I had Tonks and Luna, my two 6 month old pups micro-chipped last week at the same time they were spayed. The vet suggested that it was a large needle used to insert they chip, so why not wait until they were under anesthesia for their spay to do it, and I agreed.
I love my girls too much to think that they might get lost and never find thier way back to me. EVERY medical procedure has its risks; but I think in the case of micro chipping, the risk to your pet is greater if they are lost and NOT micro-chipped. |
| Don't forget that when the proper paperwork is done with microchipping that it gives you another legal leg to stand on if you ever have to assert ownership over your dog. |
| lisaoes:
Hello the 2 Dog that St Clare Kennels is asking about belong to me & my Brother in law the 2 are sisters from different liters. 1st dog Maggie is 2yr. old with no Problem's. She has now had 2 full blown seizures in 2 weeks has blood work is fine. She had gotten her Vaccination update 2 weeks earlier. 2nd. Dog Bindi Is mine she is 2-1/2 no Problems she did not have a seizure but was acting funny like she was scared she would be outside then all of a sudden would stop & spin to check her rear around her tail like being stung by a bee then come running back to me like she was looking for protection. When my Brother in law called me to tell me about Maggie he was telling me that that's what Maggie was doing before she went into both of her seizure 's. Trust me when I say the 3 of us are in constant contact with each other, we have check about every thing possible food, poisons, toy's you name it we have compared notes. The only thing that the 2 have in common is that they were both chipped not saying that that is the Problem just asking. We are both very happy that we had them chipped and would do it again helps you sleep better. Now so far Maggie has not had any more Seizures. |
Deskwench wrote: Truman was micro chipped as a puppy. No problems whatsoever. It's good to know that if he somehow got lost he could be tracked back to us. It's pretty inexpensive and added insurance against loss/theft!
I agree totally---I have dogs microchipped for many reasons--- Number 1 being if they are lost they can be returned home! Number 2 I have a foster/resident oes that his owner wanted to take him back and he had already turned over ownership with Homeagain. So that saved Paddington from going back to not so great circumstances (BTW the only reason he was microchipped was because Animal Control made them do it) None of my dogs have ever had issues with it. |
| Geesh---once again I missed some posts!
Microchips can move around so, it is a great idea to have your dogs scanned when they are in the vet for a visit to make sure they are in place. Kismet, my deaf gal has two microchips and neither one did we have inserted.....we saw them on radiographs. Neither were registered, Homeagain now has two numbers for my girl! |
| Are the pups from St.Claire Kennels OES? Also with the blood testing you had done did that include ruling out a Thyroid problem? Thyroid problems can and do cause seizures in OES and can be an inherited problem with some in a litter suffering from seizures, not all but some can.
If it is OES they can and do have problems in the breed with a Thyroid imbalance. Were the dam and sire of these repeated litters cleared prior to breeding with the appropriate thyroid blood panel screening if they are OES? Just interested to know if that could be the problem rather then the Microchipping being blamed for what is happening. |
bootss wrote: Hello,
St.Clair Kennels is a licensed kennel in the state of Michigan and is currently investigating a seizure problem that seems to be related to Microchips.Here are the facts,to date. 3 pup have had seizures of 16 total.This is from the same parents,2 different breedings. Both parents have clear bloodwork and no seizures.13 pups are not microchiped including one we kept with no seizures. How old were the puppies when they started having seizures? Were they checked for liver shunts? The MDR1 gene mutation? Were they old enough to be receiving heartworm meds? (I ask this because I know an epileptic OES well and he had his first seizure within an hour of receiving Heartguard (ivermectin). Though it's doubtful that was to blame, rather merely a trigger in a dog who already had a lowered seizure threshhold.) There are so many things that can cause seizures and neither parent need be afflicted to produce something that can cause seizures in the puppies. Obviously it's stastically interesting that the 3 chipped puppies have seizures and the rest do not so it's great that you're pursuing this. I'm just wondering what other factors may be at work. Thanks! Kristine |
| Both my pets are chipped, as required by the military when living on post. I think its a great way to keep track of your pets. If they get lost or stolen, the chip is a definitive way to prove that your pet is YOUR pet. Yes the needle is large, but a little flinch was all either of my babies gave in reaction. No migration issues, checked every time we go for an appt. I just updated my homeagain profile with pics of both babies, but I didn't go for the upgrade which provides insurance covering injuries or illness while lost and sending a bulletin to clinics and shelters in the event of being lost. Everyone I know around me has their pets chipped, and no issues whatsoever! |
When we got Mr Newfie puppy the breeder registered the microchip to us - with her a second notifiee (is that a word  ) anyway I thought what a wonderful idea.
I think more breeeders should do that, less question of loss dogs ending up in shelters and rescue because the owner forgot to update an address when they moved. |
kerry wrote: When we got Mr Newfie puppy the breeder registered the microchip to us - with her a second notifiee (is that a word
) anyway I thought what a wonderful idea.I think more breeeders should do that, less question of loss dogs ending up in shelters and rescue because the owner forgot to update an address when they moved. A great idea and, better yet, though either will work - breeder registers dog to herself FIRST. We started doing that with our rescue dogs that we place and I'd do that with any future puppies. A local golden breeder placed a mature dog with a friend's son & daughter-in-law. The dog got out, got picked up and AC called her. She bailed the dog out and then called and had a nice long chat with the owners before returning the dog. Without a chip...? But, yes, they do migrate. I was informed just recently that it happened with one of my puppies who is two now. Kristine |
That 2 year old would be Chewie.... 
It has moved down his right shoulder. I have him scanned everytime we go in (which isn't often, thank goodness, knock on wood!) Previous times the scanner picked up the reading right in the middle. Otherwise, no troubles with it. Our basset rescue chips all dogs too - and lists the rescue as the primary contact as well. The new owner can add their name after adopting. |
| 1st off not Blaming micro-chip just checking things off a check list of thing that they might have had in common. Bindi really did not have a seizures only was acting similar to Maggie before she had a Seizure She has not shown any more symptoms. Maggie has had 2 seizures but has not had any more in almost a month now. she has had every test that they can think of.
also we has the chip X-rayed it has not moved. |
| oh good grief!!!
Chips are very safe. They very very rarely migrate.... They are no larger than a grain of rice..... Yes, the needle is a bit large but most dogs don't even have a clue it has been inserted ! I prefer this way over tatooing. I have had one dog tatoo'd in my life and never again. I cannot do anything to my dog i would not do to myself and i have no inclination to ink my body..... And the AKC does NOT tell you you have to microchip. Only that a dog has to have a permanent ID..... if you want to tatoo then go for it.... and that is only for multi use sire program..... and for OFA clearances..... good grief, still shaking my head |
Anonymous wrote: 1st off not Blaming micro-chip just checking things off a check list of thing that they might have had in common. Bindi really did not have a seizures only was acting similar to Maggie before she had a Seizure She has not shown any more symptoms. Maggie has had 2 seizures but has not had any more in almost a month now. she has had every test that they can think of.
also we has the chip X-rayed it has not moved. have they ruled out juvenile epilepsy? this is prevalent in some lines. |
| dose anyone els think its scary that they wana chip our animals
it reminds me too much of revalations its perfect it dosnt harm them its cheep its nice to know where your dog it what the hell its too good to be true soon they will have one for us insted of a ssc |
memorymaker90 wrote: dose anyone els think its scary that they wana chip our animals
it reminds me too much of revalations its perfect it dosnt harm them its cheep its nice to know where your dog it what the hell its too good to be true soon they will have one for us insted of a ssc Lol. Pull your tin foil hat down further over your ears or the aliens might read your thoughts! |
ButtersStotch wrote: memorymaker90 wrote: dose anyone els think its scary that they wana chip our animals it reminds me too much of revalations its perfect it dosnt harm them its cheep its nice to know where your dog it what the hell its too good to be true soon they will have one for us insted of a ssc Lol. Pull your tin foil hat down further over your ears or the aliens might read your thoughts! 
Actually a chip with my id etc would keep me from forgetting it just when I need it, and don't you think kids should get blue tooth implants? |
kerry wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: memorymaker90 wrote: dose anyone els think its scary that they wana chip our animals it reminds me too much of revalations its perfect it dosnt harm them its cheep its nice to know where your dog it what the hell its too good to be true soon they will have one for us insted of a ssc Lol. Pull your tin foil hat down further over your ears or the aliens might read your thoughts! Actually a chip with my id etc would keep me from forgetting it just when I need it, and don't you think kids should get blue tooth implants? maybe a chip with GPS system in it so if you get alziamers(sp) they can find you. |
| i didnt say dogs were like humans
but whos to say thats not next chips to make shure we are who we say we are for security reasions or so noone can take your identity if you belive in revalations it should make you think |
| Kind of like that episode of South Park where all the kids had to wear the giant helmets with the satellite dishes on them so the parents could watch them. Childtracker 2000!
I don't know, dude, I think just wanting to find my dog if he gets lost to be quite a long way from "Revelations." |
| All my pets are chipped. I think our animal control wants to charge the people who let their pets run loose for dead animal pick-up. Nothing ever makes irresponsible pet owners become responsible pet owners. You either are, or you aren't. I love all my pets too much to ever leave them without a chance of being found in case of accidents...so I choose to chip them. |
| i just read a new report today that Home Again chips will no longer be doing a second contact.
I know that all my pups are chipped to me as the breeder.... and i would then put the new puppy owners on as the 2nd. Now i'm going to have to rethink how to do this. But also, when we sent Checkers up to Canada to show we had to have a 2nd chip put in him up there as the CKC would not recognize his chip from here.......... Now i am wondering how this might cause some problems if i decide to have his titers done if i choose to take him to another country to show him. Which chip # would i use? the USA Chip? the Canadian Chip? |
| Our dogs are all microchipped....
If you worry about the chip traveling you can have it checked as part of the annual exam! When we got Kismet she was going in to have a dental and we were going to microchip her. She actaully had two upon xray(neither registered) So, we registered both numbers with Home Again. Home Again will register any chip or tattoo you have in their database. So, calling them even if it is not a Home Again chip if they have the info the baby can still be recovered! I am guessing they would only do this if there is also the Home Again chip! (this is my understanding) |
Willowsprite wrote: I'm just beginning to look into this myself, neither of my girls are chipped, I was too worried about the risk of it migrating through the body. I've heard of problems with it, but never heard of one dying from it. Both my girls are tattooed, that's enough for me. ALL MY DOGS ARE TATTOOED. ONE HAD A CHIP,WHEN I GOT HIM. HE GOT LOST, ONLY THE TATTOO GOT HIM BACK. NO SCANNER COULD DETECT HIS CHIP. IT HAD MIGRATED. I HAD MOVED AND FORGOT TO CHANGE MY INFO. THE TATTOO REGISTRY, SPENT TWO DAYS FINDING ME, TO RECOVER MY BELOVED CHIPS. THEY ARE WONDERFUL. http://WWW.TATTOO-A-PET.COM A FREIND OF MINES PET GOT CANCER FROM THE CHIP.. IF YOU LOVE YOUR PET TATTOO IT.  |
| This forum is so entertaining. Even microchips bring out the unusual |
Ashley wrote: This forum is so entertaining. Even microchips bring out the unusual |
| My 2 1/2 year old husky shepard mix had a seizure after he was microchipped.He would also do the same thing looking back as if somthing was on his bottom. The seizures he has are so violent right before he goes into them it's like he is watching a bee or fly and you cannot get his attention. Then he will ram forward or just go stiff and fall back violently clashing his teeth and his whole body. His first one was about a month after the microchip. And then he would have them about every 2 to 3 weeks. He has been on phenobarbital and I also had the diazapam to help calm him when he would have one. He has been hospitalized twice and this last time I could not get them to stop.Due to my husband losing his job and both his parents passed away last year I had to give my dog my best friend up so he could have a chance at life. Now that i ran accross this post I am wandering if I made the right decision.I did not think to ask about the microchip and if it was still in place.The vet just said it was epilipsy and they don't know the cause. My dog" Quik "is his name.I lived for him ,my schedule revolved around him. He slept with me which I know is bad but I think after the seizures he was affraid to be alone and I was affraid too. His every move was watched. I just cannot believe a perfect healthy dog just starts having seizures. It's killing me to not know where he is and if he is ok I never thought it possible to cry in your sleep. I just need some answers. |
| All of mine are chipped, some young, some as adults. No problem. Only problem actually was when I went to inject Daisy, I ended up injecting it into my thumb! Another time I shot thru the dog and it ended up on the coat, like a grain of rice. Obviously I no longer do the injecting myself anymore. My big complaint is the amount they charge to register or register the dog. grrrr. |
Quote: I ended up injecting it into my thumb! I'm sorry... I shouldn't laugh but But that must have hurt like the dickens! The gauge of that needle... oooo. So what's your microchip number? All of mine are microchipped too... there have been no problems. Though I've never heard of a microchip causing seizures, if I ever thought a microchip might be a problem, I'd just have it removed. Here is more information on epilepsy- http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-ang ... te_map.htm . A lot of other things are more likely to cause seizures... Quote: Causes (of seizures): The cause can be anything that disrupts normal brain circuitry: ~ Idiopathic Epilepsy, meaning "no known cause" and possibly inherited. This is also referred to as Primary Epilepsy. Check history or pedigree and make sure your veterinarian has looked for possible underlying factors. Seizures caused by underlying factors are referred to as Secondary Epilepsy. ~ Congenital hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) ~ Hypothyroidism (low thyroid function) ~ Infections causing brain damage (such as canine distemper, cryptococcosis) ~ Ingestion of toxins (such as lead paint chips, insecticides) ~ Brain tumors ~ Portosystemic shunts (improperly routed intestinal blood vessels bypass the liver - one of the body's important waste-product detoxifiers) ~ Vaccinations |
| I had a litter of 14microchipped at same time as vaccinated (8 weeks) one pup developed an absess which had to be drained (the chip was flushed out too) now pup has tissue damage on site as well as needing a new microchip. Whilst it still has the lump nothing can be done so this pup can't be sold either. Here you do the right thing according to the law and it costs you lots of money.....it sucks !!!! |
lisaoes wrote: Hi St clair Kennels, just wondering if in this situation if at the same time as having the microchips inserted were they also vaccinated? Did they do any tests to see if the seizures with the pups was due to maybe a vaccination reaction rather then the microchipping? My litter was done at 7 1/2 weeks, LAW here now in Australia, all went well and chips are read easily and have not migrated. Two pups going overseas they have to be indentified with microchips or they are not allowed to leave here or enter there new country. I still wonder if maybe it was more of a Vaccine related issue then the insertion of a microchip? I still say microchipping an animal gives them a security all their lives and lessens the risk of the animal being abandoned or dumped as it is a life time guarantee of responsible pet ownership that can be traced Its now the law in England whereby all puppies have to be mircochipped before they leave for their new homes. Thankfully with Esher and Cloud, the law wasnt law  - I had Esher mirco chipped at 3 months old and that was only because her eyes were tested and for identification purposes she had to be chipped. I personally think that having puppies chipped at 8 weeks is too young as they have no muscles to hold the chip in place. I know a lot of dogs across the breeds where the chip has moved and some have moved to some worrying places and if it continues to move could it puncture the heart, lungs and other major organs? I sincerely hope not! Tia was chipped when she was three again for identification purposes this time hips and Lincoln was chipped at 8 weeks, which I personally didnt agree with but there we go. Sometimes I think the Government especially in the UK are spending too much time sorting out the animals when they should be sorting out our unemployment and huge debt that we owe and continue to owe. |
| My friends 2 year old westie will most likely need to be put down this week as a result of the microchip migrating to the brain and causing severe brain damage. I will be getting my dog scanned asap and regularly from now on. |
Guest wrote: My friends 2 year old westie will most likely need to be put down this week as a result of the microchip migrating to the brain and causing severe brain damage. I will be getting my dog scanned asap and regularly from now on. I am just reading this , what a joke , a microchip can NEVER migrate into the brain , it has been injected under the skin, a brain is covered by a skull , it can however migrate , happened to us some years ago and came out at the hock , always just under the skin . That Westie had something else wrong |
| Our dog was microchipped and now he has seizures which are triggered when he jumps off the bed. HMMMM?????? A connection? |
Guest wrote: Our dog was microchipped and now he has seizures which are triggered when he jumps off the bed. HMMMM?????? A connection? My hound has seizures and he is micro chipped.... connection?  Nope he is epileptic. How bout ruling out other things like epilepsy or other disorders. Take your dog to a vet. |
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