Behavior towards new puppy
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| Just wanted to wish you luck with yoru difficulties. You should post pics of them.
As far as the stealing/hogging the toys... that has not changed at all between my two. I feel it's kind of the same scenario. One of my dogs is 63lbs, the other 6.0lbs. They have been together for over 2 years. The only solution is to put one outside or in the garage when the tiny one wants playtime or give them both a bone or hold the big dog down and tell HER NOOOOOOOOO... while my husband throws the ball to the tiny one. We let her know it's my small dog's turn to play and by holding her down for over a year... she now doesn't try to climb out from under our legs. She just whines.. |
| Are Max's behavior problems new, since Maggie or are these existing problems prior to Maggies arrival? It will take time for the two of them to establish their "pack order" and you may need to do alot of supervising til that happens.
Jumping up, not coming when called are behaviors best addressed by a good obedience class. Good Luck. |
| I'd start with some regular obedience training for Max. You have to have control of a dog that big even if he is a sweetheart. Just jumping on someone could really hurt someone or he could get hurt himself if he doesn't come when he's called. If Max has never had any kind of serious training, than it may be a great time to start with both of the dogs at the same time. Essentially, you're still dealing with a giant puppy so you can start from scratch.
As far as jumping fences, he can't be left outside unattended. At all. I know it's a pain but you can either get a ridiculously higher fence, put him a on a long lead or just watch him. I know it stinks but if he knows he can get out, he will probably continue to do so. When I let my three out, I watch them in the window. They aren't fence jumpers but they like mud so I do a quick rap on the window anytime one of them looks like he's up to no good! As far as not giving the puppy any peace, is Max or the puppy crate trained? Perhaps that could be a haven away for the pup to relax. I know sometimes dogs get so excited and obsessive, they can't leave the puppy alone. My big Komondor is that way and he regularly needs time outs just to calm down. He is at the point where I can say, "that's enough, time out" and I'll sit him down and he lies down on his side on his own. Once he relaxes, I release him and let him play again. I know it sucks for 120+ pound puppies because they always seem like the bad guy. Max probably just wants to play and roughhouse but, at his size, he doesn't really know how to be gentle or realize that others can't take it. He's just interested and excited but teaching him to calm down and relax will help a lot. It has for us. |
| Ppl gave you solid advice here.
For us, it was the reverse case, we brought home a large dog to a medium dog. Our large dog, Pita, came as a puppy and would roll over, and be submissive in the beginning. We used to stop our medium dog, Roce from dominating her. As she grew up she challeneged our medium dog and now hogs all the toys and definitely gets her way. So we used to jump in and stop every selfish behavior from Pita to protect our medium dog... however, we eventually learned that that's their pack order and we just let them worked it out on their own. THey are fine with it most of the time. Royce whines like a crazy dog though when Pita hogs his favorite ball...... I would suggest controlling your St. Bernard untll your small dog grows up. Now would be a great opportunity for extra obedience training. I think paying attention to the big dog and tiring him out would be best. Eventually, I hope the small dog will dominate and take over the toys!! |
I posted a picture of the two of them together, if you click on the camera on my post you can see them. Thanks for all the advice, Max has been an arm load full since we got him. We are going to have to get him into obedience classes, because what we are doing isn't working. He's a good dog but he is so big that he hurts people when he gets out of control or jumps on them. He goes into this brain freeze sometimes and gets fixated on something and we literally have to grab his head and snap him out of it, he has very obsessive behavior. He is my first OES so we didn't know anything about them and their behavior when we got him. He is the sweetest dog I have every had, but I think that he thinks he is still little. Sometimes he gets himself wedged under the coffee table and the look on his face is of bewilderment of why he can't fit under it anymore. I'm just afraid he is going to hurt her accidentally. I have been seperating them when it gets to be to much. Maggie has a kennel so she goes in there until both of them calm down or Max goes downstairs. If he is downstairs they both set at the door and cry for each other. Crazy dogs, but their worth it, they are just exhusting.  |
| Those pictures are amazing!! Your Max is so obviously both OES and St Bernard - I love him!
Definitely take him to school, and the puppy too. They will both benefit so much. It should also help you and your family/friends to have some consistant tools and language to use when needed. |
| Oh my gosh--that first picture of him! He looks like the biggest dog in the world! Very cute! I have no advice, just wanted to comment on the cutie. |
| Max is the rock star of our neighborhood, when we go on our walks everyone says "Hi Max" or has to come meet him and pet him. He loves everyone, very gentle to humans. He has brought me so much happiness. They are such funny, sweet dogs.
I think that is why the fence jumping problem started though, we live on a corner lot and lots of people walk their dogs by our house. Max use to be able to stay outside by himself and everyone would come up and pet him, and then like a month ago he started going over the fence whenever anyone walked by with a dog. I have to stay outside with him all the time, and by me telling him no and trying to get his attention when a dog walks by has been working so far, he has been pretty good about not going over the fence, but you can tell it is just killing him inside to not jump that fence. We figure eventually that he will just dig a hole for Maggie so she can go under it and he will jump over and they will go on an adventure. We were thinking we should change their names to Bonnie & Clyde, we can already tell they are plotting something.  |
My boyfriend is 6'4" and about 280, he stands Max up and I swear they are the same size! My big babies  |
| You might want to take Max to the dog park and let him romp and play with other dogs. We found out last year when we had a small puppy and older dogs that we needed to have time out and separate the dogs just for some down time. |
| what a beautiful big boy and a lovely dainty little girl , they both look wonderful |
| Ohh cute pictures.
In the pictures they look like they are best buds~ I don't see any St. Bernard in Max... all Sheepie.. |
Thank for all the nice comments. I think the only St. Bernard in Max is his size, he definately acts and has all the mannerisms of a Sheepie. They are doing a little better together each day, they really like each other, it just a little to much sometimes. I'm sure they will eventually calm down when Maggier gets bigger, she will at least always be faster then him. I love this forum and talking about my Sheepie and seeing all the pics of everyone's Sheepies. They just bring a smile to my face when I see them.
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| My goodness! You must have the biggest dog in the world! How beautiful, looks like such a cuddly dog. |
| Having had a St. years ago, I agree...I only see sheepie. HOWEVER, A VERY LARGE ONE. Are you sure he's a mix? |
| I thought I saw a mix when I looked at the nose. Wide like a St. Bernard. Other than that, I would have had no idea... |
| yup i agree, from the front on, he looks all sheepie, but the profile view is a st nose.....lol...hes a handsome fella! |
| I adopted a Great Pyr back in August who is about the same age as your Max. One thing that I have found quite beneficial in training him is to hand feed him. I put Byron in his crate while my other dogs are eating.After my other dogs are finished eating they go to there crate and I work with Byron. I will give him a command such as "sit" if he does it he gets a handful of food, and eats out of my hand. I work on one command at a time until he gets it then I go onto another. He has mastered many commands now and I mix it up on him. He has learned sit, down, crate, stay, shake hands, down stay, sit stay, leave it and many more in a relatively short period of time. And the bond between him and I since I have started training him this way has gotten extremely strong. Just a suggestion you may want to try. It really does not take long I work for about 10 minutes with him twice a day at meal time and I think he really looks forward to our time together. With these big guys it really is important that we have them under control because even though they may not mean to just due to their size they could hurt somebody or something. |
I will try training him with treats, he loves food, all food , all the time, and toilet paper. He will eat a whole roll if we don't have it put away. He is a mix between sheepie/st. bernard, and he was the smallest of the puppies when we got him. I can't even imagine how big his brothers & sisters are!!! I will post some more pictures of him. He loves taking baths and he sleeps in the bathtub everynight, crazy dog. He started doing that last summer, we figure becuase it is cooler then the floor. He very unhappy that there is no more snow on the ground, he loves snow and the cold weather. We are going to get him shaved here pretty soon so he won't be so hot, he looks a lot smaller without all that hair. Thanks for saying nice things about Max and Maggie, I told them what everyone said about them last night and they smiled.  |
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