Soon 2 be New Parents OES. Need tips
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| Where in West Virginia are you getting your pup? My pup is from WV. |
Congrats Trinity! And welcome to the forum, I hope you'll join and stay to tell us about your new sheepie baby! This site is great, there is a wealth of information, a great place to look for advice or training tips, any questions regarding health, or just about anything! Also a great place to share funny stories about your sheepie, and I'm sure there will be plenty! 
When do you pick up your puppy? And do you have a name picked out? As far as what you need to know... is this your first dog? Or just first oes? |
| thanks for the reply. not too sure where in WV. from this guy name butch. they seem really nice. i guess this is their 4th litter. NO this is our first OES. we have a Great dane name Kramer, Pug name Guppy, and a Miniture pincher name Cherry. My parents have a L'haso Apso name tigger and he's such a good boy. So we are delighted to have a bigger version. We picked him out already. He's the last male in the batch. I"m happy to be in this forum and definetly will keep you guys posted with our new bundle of joy. I jus hope he's easy to trian. hehe. |
| What color is your dane? I love great danes...
I had a black female named Leah, and a fawn female named Chelsea. |
| Hi Trinity, It is always exciting when we get a new puppy to love. Have you done any reading on what life is like with an OES? I am not being picky but how did you decide on your breeder Butch? There are to many want to be breeders out there just producing puppies for the money. The OES Club of America has guide lines to help choose a breeder the advice is free and can save you years of heart ache if you buy from a non responsible breeder. There ae many rescue squads for the OES far to many dogs end up in rescue because their former owner did not educate themselves about the OES. I have my third OES and I did a lot of talking with those who claim to be breeders, it was horrible people lied about what tests the puppy's parents had prior to breeding, many diseases and conditions are preventable if you have an educated responsible breeder. I made sound harsh but trust me I am looking out for you there are to many people mass producing OES and rescue squads are over worked due to the wanna be breeder. Please do search into this breed and your breeder. |
| Hey willowsprite. are they good house dogs? jus wondering. reading the comments from the guest. its making me a lil nervous. but i'm pretty sure everyone has thier own opinions on things and what not. but i jus wanted a quick over view.
our great dane is black, gray n some spots. he wieghs about 130 or so. he's a heavy boy. he has a twin brother too. george but our friend has him and he's bigger than kramer. yeah they're wonderful dogs. kramer is a baby even tho he's how old, he follows my bf everywhere. and pouts if he doesn't get enough attention from him. sooo cute. hehe. thanks for you responses. |
| my 2 cents:
puppies learn constantly. you may think that you aren't teaching him/her anything, but they are constantly observing. let the dog know from square one, that in spite of how inevitably adorable they will be, you are in control. it's so hard with a new love, and especially if its your first. consistancy goes a long way though, and your pup will be well trained sooner than later if you are consistant and never let bad behavior slide (but do it nicely your pup still is a baby)
good luck, post some pictures when you get a chance. and trinity, my jack is great in the house, takes some time to muddle through potty training, but once that's done, it's smooth sailing. |
| Hi Trinity,
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your baby. The guest does have very good suggestions for when getting any breed of dog. Especially large breed. The OESCA is a suggestion to go through to find breeders who go the extra mile to ensure the breeding dogs are healthy and the pups are as well. It is fine, that you didn't get a breeder referral through them. Just make sure that your breeder is good for you. There are a few preliminary test that breeders should go through to make sure that your puppy will live a healthy long life, preliminary tests that you can look for is hip, heart, and eye tests. You want to make sure of the temperament of the parents, I think more so if you have children. OES's are a lot of work grooming, even if you don't keep their hair long, there will be times for you to puppy cut or to send to the groomers for it either way. They are a herding breed that can have issues all on its own. My 2 OES's will occasionally bump into us. A lot of people's OES will nip ankles like they do the livestock. A lhaso is a great dog, but a different dog completely than an OES. They are a breed known for their stubborness, our dogs are a year old and still have some training everyday. In my opinion, on any breed of dog or any animal, make sure you do a lot of research to make sure that it will fit in with your family. I love helping with names, and if I ever had another boy, I think he would be Murphy. It just seems to fit. LOL. My dogs are Jack and Annabelle. I hope I haven't offended, I just want to help you make sure the OES is the breed for you, and I can't wait to hear more about your new baby boy..Stormi and co. |
| They are great house dogs, they want to be with their person as much as possible. Any dog needs training, consistency, lots of love and proper care to become the well behaved companion you want. I agree with Shaggydog and Stormi too, research is important, especially looking into your chosen breeder to make sure everything is on the up and up. A poorly bred dog means heartache for everyone involved.
It can't hurt, perhaps make a few phone calls, get some detailed info from the breeder, or perhaps search the kennel name on the internet, and maybe call the akc. A healthy happy sheepdog usually has a great temperment, mellow and loving couch potato one minute, stubborn mischevious counter surfer the next...lol... Good luck.... |
| I would recommend crate training your pup - you will have an easier time housetraining - and you can be assured that he's safe & sound when you can't be watching him. Especially since you have 3 other dogs - because it may take some time for them all to get along. Puppies (of any breed) are a lot of work - but OES are in particular - due to their size, their grooming requirements and the herding instincts (especially with children). They are big dogs - and are very energetic and puppy-like for quite some time. They require Positive Reinforcement training! I would look for a training class to start ASAP.
The issue with the breeder selection is critical! Many health problems are rampant in the OES - due to poor breeding practices! Breeders should be breeding dogs that have been thoroughly tested prior to breeding and they should be bred with consideration to Health & Temperment! Deafness, hip dysplasia, Retinal Atrophy, aggressive behaviors all are problems that are becoming more common with the breed. You want to do everything in your power to decrease the chances of these problems. A responsible/ethical breeder should be providing you with all of the information you need to know about your puppy! They should be there to help you throughout the dog's life! Educate yourself about the breed and the breeder - the good, the bad and the ugly! Make sure you are prepared for everything! I doubt very much that you will change your mind - regardless of what you may find out about your breeder - but at least become knowledgeable as to what to expect. The OES are NOTHING like a Lhasa Apso - the grooming requirements and personality are very different. Best of Luck! Kristen |
| You guys are very helpful and advice-full on this forum. glad i somehow managed to find my way on here and became a member.
I am trying to look into my breeder, and as for changing my breed, i dont think i'll change it, because i've been wanting one for so long now. and my boyfriend is the main one realy into OES, so he's been doing alot of reading as well. I"m learning as we go along. But thanks for your wonderful tips, you guys have been giving me. they're more than helpful. |
| jus wondering. |
| None of the sheepdogs I have known have shed. They do however leave clumps, or dust bunnies, of undercoat, occasionally. When grooming you will notice a lot of fur comes out on the brush, and this is necessary to remove dead or loose fur so that it doesn't mat. |
| here is a previous thread on the subject as well
http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=414&highlight=shed |
| hi trinty i know what you are going threw am getting apup in 3 weeks who we have called bob and am so excited i cant wait |
cool. congrats. i love having pets around me. We still haven't decided on anything yet either. leaning towards Moe. But not too sure. I'm so excited, i can't seem to wait any longer. but he'll be home sooner or later. can't wait. He'll probably most likely be a handful, but it will be worth the experience  |
when are you getting your oes bobsmum  |
| i'll be leaving to pick him up late thursday nite and arriving in west virginia friday morning and driving back in the heat of traffic jams probably, which would suck but o well. good traveling expereince too i guess you can say. |
| lucky you i get mine 2 weeks on tuesday i cant wait |
| any news on impending new arrivals? I love puppies |
| it was a long drive to west virginia. but we have him and he's in great condition. taking him to the vet again today to make sure, double checking. but he's great. name MILES. since we traveled 605 miles, why not. He's so affectionate and so playful. We are training him on wee wee pads. he's coming along great. I will keep you guys posted, i will post pictures soon, hopefully tomorrow at my other job, if i find the thread of how to do it. But he's so adorable, we're happy parents. |
| Congrats! I would just like to make one recommendation! Don't paper (or pad) train - it's difficult to get them to transition. IMHO!
Kristen |
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